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Illinois has 2nd highest out migration in the country

By Goran_K following x   2019 Jan 5, 7:57am 1,084 views   14 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


But I thought high taxation helped prosperity, every Democrat tells me so.

1   lostand confused   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 5, 8:02am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The stupid people of IL voted ina dem supermajority-after the dem governor ran on a platform of raising taxes. I eman wtf.

Goran you have a few years in NV -it is turning dem. I thought AZ would be a place to go retire-but that Taliban loving feak who thinks it is ok for Americans to kill our troops actually won the Seante in AZ-hell to the no.

These stupid liberals never learn-they are like locusts swarming and destroying everything in their path.
2   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 5, 8:10am   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yeah Dems vote vote far lefty. Ruin their state, then run away and continue voting far lefty.

These people are mentally incapacitated.
3   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 5, 8:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Yeah Dems vote vote far lefty. Ruin their state, then run away and continue voting far lefty.


Tell me what Repub states are rich with exception of mineral rich states ( Texas, North Dakota and Alaska)
4   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Jan 5, 9:12am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Goran_K says
Yeah Dems vote vote far lefty. Ruin their state, then run away and continue voting far lefty.


Tell me what Repub states are rich with exception of mineral rich states ( Texas, North Dakota and Alaska)


Is this a pre confirmation bias? Haha
5   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 5, 9:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Yeah Dems vote vote far lefty. Ruin their state, then run away and continue voting far lefty.

These people are mentally incapacitated.


Absolutely true... And guess what?? We're Number One for the number leaving the state... Woo Hoo.. (but it's the Republican that are done and leaving the Liberal to fuck each other over).

N.J. still tops list of states losing residents

For the fifth consecutive year, New Jersey has the dubious distinction of ranking as the No. 1 state residents have left behind, according to a new survey.

The Garden State placed first as the "most-moved-from" state in the United Van Lines 40th Annual National Movers Study, released Tuesday. In 2016, 63 percent more residents were moving out of New Jersey than people moving in, according to that survey, which tracks customers’ state-to-state migration patterns over the past year.
https://www.northjersey.com/story/money/2017/01/04/nj-still-tops-list-states-losing-residents/96108416/
6   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 5, 9:27am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Tell me what Repub states are rich with exception of mineral rich states ( Texas, North Dakota and Alaska)


Is this a pre confirmation bias? Haha


No, just MORE of his TDS.

California is the number one Welfare state in the country.
7   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 5, 10:39am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Goran_K says
Yeah Dems vote vote far lefty. Ruin their state, then run away and continue voting far lefty.


Tell me what Repub states are rich with exception of mineral rich states ( Texas, North Dakota and Alaska)


I actually don't consider Alaska one of the "rich" states (though the state has ample cash reserves unlike most lefty states). I own a home in Palmer and I am very knowledgeable now of the finances of the state, and am not saying things out of ignorance....

But I will say I rank states "rich" by the following criteria:

1. Cash reserves
2. GDP/Debt ratio
3. Overall Long term debt obligations (infrastructure, pensions, etc)

So using that criteria, the top 10 states in the country with the highest cash reserves, lowest GDP/debt ratio, and the lowest overall long term debt obligations are... all red states. The top 3 are Wyoming, Nebraska and Texas. Florida, Montana, and North Dakota round out the list. Missouri, Arizona, and Tennessee are also on the list. Another fact is that all of the states i just listed have better ranked infrastructure (based on long term maintenance obligations and overall "conditions") than say California which just passed a massive gas tax just to "catch up" to current obligations.

At the bottom of the list according to the above Criteria are Hawaii, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Illinois, and California. California, pretty much everyone is aware of the Democrat super-majorities over spending, and entitlement programs. The state is doomed, and Democrats doomed it. #1 in poverty, #50 in QoL, #1 in homelessness, California is basically a state for the rich, state union workers, and bums.

New Jersey is another interesting case. After the New Jersey Supreme Court ruled in 1998 that the state must finance the rebuilding of their decaying urban public schools, Trenton borrowed $8.6 billion for that purpose, including, at the urging of DEMOCRAT legislators, several billion for schools in well-off suburban districts.

The state then handed over much of that money to an agency, the School Construction Corp., which awarded no-bid contracts to firms that contributed to then-governor DEMOCRAT Jim McGreevey's political war chest, required expensive union labor on projects, and ignored standard safeguards designed to restrain costs. Building schools at nearly twice the typical cost, the authority ran out of money before completing half its work, forcing New Jersey to borrow another $3.9 billion to complete the court-ordered task. State residents will be paying it off for decades.

The New Jersey case shows how DEMOCRAT borrowing can be abused, providing a pot of money for governments to run up bills without ensuring that the funds are effectively spent. Taxpayers are the losers, ALWAYS.
8   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 5, 10:42am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

https://www.statista.com/statistics/248063/per-capita-us-real-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

Point being that the Conservative states are poor because they pay lot less importance to the education. Education is an investment and breeds startups and moves for existing companies. Not every penny spent by the state is welfare but it can be an investment. Blindly branding every penny spent by state as waste is a very short sighted view.


MrMagic says

California is the number one Welfare state in the country.
9   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 5, 10:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
Point being that the Conservative states are poor because they pay lot less importance to the education. Education is an investment and breeds startups and moves for existing companies. Not every penny spent by the state sia welfare but it can be an investment. Blindly putting every penny spent by state as waste is a very short sighted view.


Why avoid the question then?

Why are the top out migration states lefty states?

If high taxation, according to the left, "breeds startups and moves for existing companies" why are people leaving?
10   6rdB   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 5, 11:45am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Why avoid the question then?

Why are the top out migration states lefty states?

If high taxation, according to the left, "breeds startups and moves for existing companies" why are people leaving?


even more importantly, no one here has answered a simple question: if D's are so much better for poor people, then why do working poor move from CA to TX in droves? Why is it that mega-rich are the ones moving to worker's paradise CA?
11   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 5, 11:55am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
Goran_K says
Why avoid the question then?

Why are the top out migration states lefty states?

If high taxation, according to the left, "breeds startups and moves for existing companies" why are people leaving?


even more importantly, no one here has answered a simple question: if D's are so much better for poor people, then why do working poor move from CA to TX in droves? Why is it that mega-rich are the ones moving to worker's paradise CA?


That's a good question.

Maybe it's the same EXACT reason why Hondurans choose to invade the US Southern border instead of Venezuela which is thousands of miles closer.
12   6rdB   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 5, 12:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
That's a good question.

Which will not be answered by our more lefty compatriots, who think that D's are The Protectors of Poor, Homeless, and Minorities form the Orange Menace of Capitalism. In reality, working poor vote with their feet by moving to R controlled very red state.
13   Tim Aurora   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 5, 1:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

d6rB says
even more importantly, no one here has answered a simple question: if D's are so much better for poor people, then why do working poor move from CA to TX in droves? Why is it that mega-rich are the ones moving to worker's paradise CA?


There are many reasons for people to migrate out of dem state ( BTW California is not one of the states where people are moving out of and Texas is not one of the top ten in inward migration either) . People are still moving westward, farming states and rust belt is also losing people.

* Weather : Northern states are colder
* Higher cost : Rich states real estate would be more expensive because they are more desirable. Once retired or semi retired, it make no sense to pay higher real estate cost when you can move to a bigger house and cheaper place.
* There is still a westward movement

You do not see people moving into deep red states such as Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee or Kentucky (Alabama is an exception)

https://247wallst.com/economy/2018/01/03/10-states-where-the-most-people-are-moving-and-leaving/
14   6rdB   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 5, 2:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Tim Aurora says
* Weather : Northern states are colder

CA is fairly warm and overall climate is much better than in TX, where it frankly sucks, at least near Gulf. Real estate prices are higher at least partially because of moar regulations compared to TX. People still move from CA to MS, AL, TN. I think CA D's have jacked fees/taxes/regulations to such stratospheric levels that working lower middle class is doing much better in TX with little taxes and just as few real services to population as in CA.


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