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1   Herdingcats   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 10, 1:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

How hard is it to circumvent a wall? Drug traffickers will have nice new roads leading to the border on US side built with tax payer money for the purpose of "getting equipment to the wall construction site".
2   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2019 Jan 10, 1:45pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

You think?

Looks more like a weird guy beating off in a bus station lobby babbling nonsensically.
3   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 10, 4:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall? Drug traffickers will have nice new roads leading to the border on US side built with tax payer money for the purpose of "getting equipment to the wall construction site".


They still have to get over the wall. And how will they get a fucking car over the wall to even use those nice new roads.
4   HEYYOU   ignore (27)   2019 Jan 10, 5:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If G.W. Bush had built a 80 mile tall wall,around America,9/11 wouldn't have happened.

Hey stupid! The terrorist were already in America like the millions of illegals Trump/Rep/Cons are protecting from deportation.
5   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 10, 6:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HEYYOU says
If G.W. Bush had built a 80 mile tall wall,around America,9/11 wouldn't have happened.


National security is not just a single pronged approach. It's a multi pronged approach where every hole in the home needs to be sealed off to prevent the rats from getting in:
Immigration controls to prevent terrorists coming in.
Security and screening to prevent terrorists getting on flights.
Wall to keep criminals coming from the South.
Cyber security to keep China from stealing our secrets.
CIA to gather intelligence on enemies who want to harm us like NK and Iran.
Military to blow up ISIS and Al Qaeda.
........
Why is it so hard to understand all of the above?
6   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 10, 6:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump has his ego on the line with this wall thingy. He will never back down from a fight. Wether it's from negotiating with Nancy, or declaring an emergency, the wall will be built.
7   ThreeBays   ignore (0)   2019 Jan 10, 8:35pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Trump has his ego on the line with this wall thingy. He will never back down from a fight. Wether it's from negotiating with Nancy, or declaring an emergency, the wall will be built.


Negotiating for something would be a start. The coercion approach failed.
8   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 10, 8:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ThreeBays says
Strategist says
Trump has his ego on the line with this wall thingy. He will never back down from a fight. Wether it's from negotiating with Nancy, or declaring an emergency, the wall will be built.


Negotiating for something would be a start. The coercion approach failed.


You truly need to stop watching CNN, it's really having a negative affect on you.
9   WineHorror1   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 10, 8:49pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

If it isn’t a crime for 20-50 million illegals to waltz across the border with their fanny pack and bottled water, then why do Americans need to go through customs every time we travel and have people perform invasive personal searches? It makes absolutely no sense. They have greater freedoms in America than citizens- why can’t someone just hammer that point home?
10   rdm   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 10, 11:41pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
And how will they get a fucking car over the wall to even use those nice new roads.
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ha ha uh... maybe they could meet another car on the US side or dirt bike or horse or some dudes with calves as big a cantaloupes or drones or any fucking way. There is always a way through, over or under a fixed barrier. Technology and manpower is the way to go outside of urban or other populated areas where barriers do make sense. Why not go for better results and less cost and disruption? The wall from Pacific to the Gulf is simply a political symbol sold by a grifter to his gullible followers
13   Herdingcats   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 11, 6:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall? Drug traffickers will have nice new roads leading to the border on US side built with tax payer money for the purpose of "getting equipment to the wall construction site".


They still have to get over the wall. And how will they get a fucking car over the wall to even use those nice new roads.
no actually they don't need to get the car over the border ... Just the drugs. 1 car/truck in Mexico 1 in US. Metal slat wall drugs can be handed through, solid wall thrown over.
14   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Jan 11, 7:00am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?

A lot harder than climbing through a whole in a fence.
15   Booger   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 11, 7:22am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?
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A lot harder when you have to navigate through a border mine field to get to it.
16   Booger   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 11, 7:22am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?
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A lot harder when you have to navigate through a border mine field to get to it.
17   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Jan 11, 7:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says


Apparently Republicans don't understand the meaning of PREMEDITATED.
18   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 7:51am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Rocketmanjoe says
Apparently Republicans don't understand the meaning of PREMEDITATED.


Apparently Democrats need to be premedicated.
19   Herdingcats   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 11, 7:51am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Booger says
Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?
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A lot harder when you have to navigate through a border mine field to get to it.


I'm thinking skip the wall. Instead install more mines and lots of cameras and make it pay-per-view.

Running Man II or maybe Running Person.
20   Strategist   ignore (2)   2019 Jan 11, 8:32am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
There is always a way through, over or under a fixed barrier. Technology and manpower is the way to go outside of urban or other populated areas where barriers do make sense. Why not go for better results and less cost and disruption?


Why not go for both? A physical barrier aka Wall and technology. Less manpower will be needed that way, and we save money. We also save money by preventing criminals from getting in. Illegal aliens, both criminal and non criminal are costing us a hell of a lot more than a measly $5 billion to keep them out.
21   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 9:06am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
Technology and manpower is the way to go outside of urban or other populated areas where barriers do make sense. Why not go for better results and less cost and disruption?


Really?

Please tell me how technology (a drone or a video camera system) will actually physically stop a person from crossing the border?

This should be good!
22   rdm   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 11, 9:41am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Strategist says
a lot more than a measly $5 billion to keep them out.


The coast to coast wall ain't going to happen and 5 billion isn't even a very good down payment on what this thing would cost. Trumps people haven't even spent the money appropriated last year for more barriers. Environmental issues, eminent domain issues, the terrain and geography of the border area all make the coast to coast wall a symbol not a realistic border control.
23   rdm   ignore (1)   2019 Jan 11, 10:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MrMagic says
Please tell me how technology (a drone or a video camera system) will actually physically stop a person from crossing the border


The coast to coast wall isn't happening. It was a campaign meme for Trumps rallies. No one with any intelligence believed it to be otherwise particularly the line about who was going to pay for it.
24   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 10:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
The coast to coast wall ain't going to happen and 5 billion isn't even a very good down payment on what this thing would cost. Environmental issues, eminent domain issues, the terrain and geography of the border area all make the coast to coast wall a symbol not a realistic border control.


You do know approximately 1/3 of the border already has some type of wall or fence, right? Trump is just going to fill in the areas that have been determined are problem areas.

Oh wait, you didn't know that much already exists (and a lot was built during Obama's Presidency)?

Why didn't CNN tell you that?
25   jazz_music   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 10:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

rdm says
No one with any intelligence believed it

Thank you for saying that
26   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 10:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
rdm says
No one with any intelligence believed it

Thank you for saying that


So, we'll take it that you're NOT one of those intelligent ones?
27   jazz_music   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 10:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?

There is a lot of EXISTING data on this subject which has ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED IN NUMEROUS STUDIES even for numerous countries and borders too.

... but it is all deliberately being suppressed to manipulate all of us nobodies to waste our energies offering solutions to the problem as if real ones didn't already exist!

This whole set up is such a con game.

Like every other fucking thing.
28   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 11:00am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
Herdingcats says
How hard is it to circumvent a wall?

There is a lot of EXISTING data on this subject which has ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED IN NUMEROUS STUDIES even for numerous countries and borders too.


So, feel free to post the links to all those studies, we'd really like to see it.

Unfortunately, all the other countries that built walls or barriers report they work just as planned and reduced migration

But we'll wait... start digging (at CNN)
29   jazz_music   ignore (11)   2019 Jan 11, 11:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Think about this for a second. Our armed forces operate these huuumongous bases and have no problems with trespassers at all!

As I recall all they have chainlink fences that have signs saying something like "stay out or else."

Then they have uniformed men rolling around in SUVs with machine guns and there are probably various sensors being used to detect people before they intrude.

It looks like the military and other countries think a strong wall is just a waste of money.


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