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EXTRA STRENGTH MEXIGONE --THE WALL

By jazz_music following x   2019 Jan 19, 6:56pm 1,206 views   52 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


You don't need it, because everything that wall represents, the ignorance, the racism, the paranoia is already in your heart.

The wall has been inside you all along. Trump just brought it out because he's the jackass whisperer.



classic Mahrer.

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13   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Can anyone provide a link to where Trump knowingly hired illegal alien labor?


So you think we should let employers off Scott free for hiring illegals?
14   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:16am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says

So you think we should let employers off Scott free for hiring illegals?

Got a link?
15   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
The only real racism I’ve seen in the past few weeks is


Ahh so you missed this one? Actual current racism from just a few weeks ago, not in a year book from 30 + years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/steve-king-offensive-quotes.html


So you really didn't hear about Congressman Steve King from Iowa?
16   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Feb 10, 8:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

jazz_music says
You don't need it, because everything that wall represents, the ignorance, the racism, the paranoia is already in your heart.

The wall has been inside you all along. Trump just brought it out because he's the jackass whisperer.


Your ignorance is astounding. I’ve posted repeatedly in the past about the very ethnically diverse neighborhood I grew up in. I’ve posted about how strongly patriotic my former neighbors are, regardless of race. About how much I respect them.

Your statements here are utter garbage with no basis in reality. They are imagined slights that exist solely in your screwed up mind.
17   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:44am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says

So you think we should let employers off Scott free for hiring illegals?

Got a link?


A link for what? Trump knowingly hiring illegals? Or that his companies hired illegals? The latter, yes, I'm sure I could come up with one but that's not what you want.

So you are saying we should only punish employers if they knowingly hire illegals? Me personally, I think a law to punish owners should apply regardless of whether the owner knows or not. I believe it would be a lot more effective. You don't?
18   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:46am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says

A link for what? Trump knowingly hiring illegals? Or that his companies hired illegals? The latter, yes, I'm sure I could come up with one but that's not what you want.

OK. Show me a link to Trump unknowingly hiring illegal aliens. Otherwise this is just MORE TDS.
19   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 8:54am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says

A link for what? Trump knowingly hiring illegals? Or that his companies hired illegals? The latter, yes, I'm sure I could come up with one but that's not what you want.

OK. Show me a link to Trump unknowingly hiring illegal aliens. Otherwise this is just MORE TDS.


So you think we should not punish owners of companies as long as they say they didn't know that their company was hiring illegals? It's a pretty simply question. Why not answer it?

Edit: Ahh sorry, miss read thought you said knowingly. I'll get you one.
22   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 9:20am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Otherwise this is just MORE TDS.


I do agree, letting Trump off for knowingly or unknowingly having hired illegals would be an acute case of Trump Dick Sucking.
23   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2019 Feb 10, 9:59am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hey, the only reason they're 'illegals' is because they can't be classified as subhumans and bought and maintained as chattel because of the ILLEGALLY! IMPOSED! 13th Amendment!

The real victim here is FREE! ENTERPRISE! and its able and faithful handservant, President Trump!
24   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 10:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says


2 for starters. Trump's fortune was built by illegals, you didn't know that?

To paraphrase from your two links to one story, "Whenever Trump arrived to the golf course the local managers who hired the illegal aliens would make them hide until he left."
Elgatouno says
Trump Dick Sucking.

So you got nothing?
Please respond if you can find

Onvacation says
a link to Trump unknowingly hiring illegal aliens. Otherwise this is just MORE TDS.
25   HEYYOU   ignore (25)   2019 Feb 10, 11:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Wonder if Mueller has opened an investigation into America hating Republicans allowing +10,000,000 illegal rapists,drug dealers & murderers to roam America's streets.

It's so easy to make Republicans look like fools.
The weak ones "ignore" because they have nothing except a monopoly in stupidity.
26   mell   ignore (2)   2019 Feb 10, 12:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

#TDS
27   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Feb 10, 12:57pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ORANGE! MAN! GOOD!
28   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2019 Feb 10, 3:02pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Onvacation says
Can anyone provide a link to where Trump knowingly hired illegal alien labor?


So you think we should let employers off Scott free for hiring illegals?


No, we should punish them. Is this something donkey demand in exchange for the wall? No? Why not?
29   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:03pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Which Democrat is promoting E-Verify?

Democrat Defenders keep mentioning that, so which National Level Democrat is promoting it?

Kamala? Booker? Pocahontas? hahahahah
30   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
So you got nothing?


Hmm? Nothing? Are you saying these illegals weren't hired by Trump's companies? Or that Trump or other owners of companies should be let off Scott free because they said they had no idea? Would you feel the same if we were talking about Amazon getting busted for hiring illegals and the illegal workers said they always were hidden from Jeff Bezos? Im guessing you wouldn't. And that's what we call Trump Dick Sucking.
31   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Which Democrat is promoting E-Verify?


Why didn't Trump voluntarily adopte e-verify at all of his companies from day 1 of his presidency? Why isn't he still adopting e-verify at all of his companies? I only read it will be adopted at his properties, the 2 don't mean the same.
32   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Why didn't Trump voluntarily adopte e-verify at all of his companies? Why isn't he still adopting e-verify at all of his companies? I only read it will be adopted at his properties, the 2 don't mean the same.



Not what I asked. You keep bringing up E-Verify.

Vox and Salon can bitch till the cows come home because a handful of illegals were hired way down the Corporate Ladder by one of Trump's businesses.

Since they hate illegal employers so much, which National Democrat is pushing E-Verify?
33   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2019 Feb 10, 3:19pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Why didn't Trump voluntarily adopte e-verify at all of his companies from day 1 of his presidency?


For some devious self-serving reasons, of course. Where are donkeys on this issue? Asleep at the wheel?
34   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says

Not what I asked. You keep bringing up E-Verify.


Yes I do, why is it Trump didn't set a good example to all companies by adopting e-verify? All I've seen Trump push for is a wall. E verify would make it harder for all illegals to work in US as opposed to a wall which could only ever stop a minority of illegals.
35   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 10, 3:42pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Yes I do, why is it Trump didn't set a good example to all companies by adopting e-verify? All I've seen Trump push for is a wall. E verify would make it harder for all illegals to work in US as opposed to a wall which could only ever stop a minority of illegals.



Again, Dems think that not having mandatory E-Verify is so awful, so which ones are pushing it?
36   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2019 Feb 10, 6:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Yes I do, why is it Trump didn't set a good example to all companies by adopting e-verify?


Not one notable Dem pushing it as an alternative either.
37   Goran_K   ignore (2)   2019 Feb 10, 6:35pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Goran_K says
The only real racism I’ve seen in the past few weeks is


Ahh so you missed this one? Actual current racism from just a few weeks ago, not in a year book from 30 + years ago.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/15/us/politics/steve-king-offensive-quotes.html


So you really didn't hear about Congressman Steve King from Iowa?


Uh, I'm not huge fan of Steve King (I don't vote in his state), but are you seriously comparing what he's done to Herring or Northham?

He's basically telling the truth about illegal aliens, and he wants to make the official language of his state's documents "English", big fucking deal. He's also one of the few who is truthful about the contents of the Quran, which I'm sure you have read, right?

He also makes valid points about some "cultures" being better than other cultures. That's absolutely true. There's a reason why Aztec deity sacrafices are not the norm in modern society, and there's a reason why the Indian caste system is not part of Western culture.

You seriously consider that the same as walking around in black face or wearing KKK hoods? No wonder the Democrats have zero morals or standards, they apply NONE to themselves.
38   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 6:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Onvacation says
So you got nothing?


Hmm? Nothing? Are you saying these illegals weren't hired by Trump's companies?

I'm saying you have not given an example of Trump knowingly hiring illegal aliens.

Still waiting...
39   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 7:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says
Onvacation says
So you got nothing?


Hmm? Nothing? Are you saying these illegals weren't hired by Trump's companies?

I'm saying you have not given an example of Trump knowingly hiring illegal aliens.

Still waiting...


Actually yes I did. Maybe you missed it.

Elgatouno says
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html
40   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 7:18am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Actually yes I did. Maybe you missed it.

YOU FOUND IT!

Anything newer than 40 years ago that was not illegals hired by A subcontractor?
41   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 7:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says
Actually yes I did. Maybe you missed it.

YOU FOUND IT!

Anything newer than 40 years ago that was not illegals hired by A subcontractor?
more conditions?

What about if it was Bezos? Be honest. You'd what Bezos destroyed. TDS = Trump Dick Sucking
42   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 7:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Dick Sucking

Why the obsession?
43   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 7:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
You'd what Bezos destroyed.

I don't know. What?
44   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 8:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says
You'd what Bezos destroyed.

I don't know. What?


Oh sorry missed that.

It was supposed to say "you'd want Bezos Destroyed".

Good catch, thank you
45   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Feb 11, 8:06am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says
Dick Sucking

Why the obsession?


Good question. Not sure why so many people here would like to suck Trump's Dick. I'm guessing the moderation policies have a lot to do with it.
46   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Feb 11, 10:27am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The days of making it a faux requirement of public office to be a moral paragon are over. And Democrats can thank Bill Clinton for putting the stake through the heart of that particular vampire. If anyone was confused as to his morality and character, getting caught in a sworn lie about getting sucked off by an intern in the Oval Office made it clear that the POTUS was not of good moral fiber. And yet, the country went on largely as before.
People shrugged, and got used to the POTUS being just a guy.

So for all the Democrats who are outraged at Trump for his moral failings, kindly remember who got this ball rolling. The hymen has been punctured and there’s no repairing that bitch. Character assassination attacks are no longer very effective against a sitting POTUS. Ya all are barking and barking, but that squirrel is sitting up in the tree playing with its nuts and doesn’t give a fuck.
47   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Feb 11, 10:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Elgatouno says
Actually yes I did. Maybe you missed it.

YOU FOUND IT!

Anything newer than 40 years ago that was not illegals hired by A subcontractor?


48   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Feb 11, 2:09pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why we need strict immigration controls (if not a wall) is the following:
49   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Feb 13, 4:21am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Reality check: Trump continues pushing false claims at El Paso rally

President Trump made a number of false claims Monday night during his rally in El Paso as he lobbied for building a southern border wall — including a claim that the arena the rally was held in could fit 8,000 people and that the El Paso Fire Department allowed him to let in 10,000.

Reality check: The fire department said the arena is actually capable of holding even fewer people than that — about 6,500 — and that they did not give Trump permission to admit people beyond the capacity, per El Paso Times. Trump also underestimated the size of Beto O’Rourke’s competing rally, claiming there were between 15 and 300 people. Estimates suggest O'Rourke had between 7,000 and 15,000 people in attendance.

On the wall: Trump said the government has already “built a lot of” the wall. While Congress last year approved an additional 14 miles of extended barrier, there has not been a single mile of wall built since Trump assumed the presidency, the AP reports.

•Trump claimed a border wall would prevent drugs from coming into the U.S. But the Drug Enforcement Administration determined in 2018 that the majority of drugs coming through the border arrive through official ports of entry.

On immigration and crime: Trump falsely claimed, as he has several times before, that a border wall helped decrease crime in El Paso. In fact, El Paso’s violent crime rate was the second-lowest among similarly sized cities before the wall was built, and the city maintained second place after the wall was erected, the New York Times reports.

•Trump claimed that about 2% of unauthorized immigrants who are arrested return for their court hearings. The actual number is closer to 72%, according to Justice Department data.

On oil and natural gas: Trump falsely claimed the U.S. is “now the number one producer of oil and natural gas,” when in fact the U.S. has been the world's most dominant since 2013, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.

On the Green New Deal: Trump falsely claimed the Democrats’ Green New Deal will ban Americans from owning cows and “shut down American energy” and “air travel.” The plan calls for a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions, but does not ban cows or air travel, per the AP.

On experimental drugs: Trump claimed patients couldn’t use experimental drugs while terminally ill before he signed the “Right to Try” law. However, another similar federal program had already been in place, according the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

https://www.axios.com/trump-fact-check-el-paso-rally-b6cd4c17-1529-4de0-9ce1-251de1567ca6.html
51   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Feb 17, 7:53am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Donald Trump’s national emergency announcement on Friday qualified as the most self-negating White House declaration in recent history.

Typically, an emergency is grounded in urgency. Mr Trump seemed in no hurry to roll his out. Typically, a US president would also state that the situation was, in fact, an emergency.

This is particularly so if it is justified on national security grounds. Mr Trump implied quite the opposite. In so doing, he handed the Supreme Court a reason to strike it down. “I didn’t need to do this,” he said of his move to build a US-Mexico border wall with diverted funds. “But I’d rather do it much faster . . . the only reason we are up here talking about this is because of the election.” In sum, therefore, Mr Trump gutted his own case while making it.

Whether Mr Trump’s failure to convince Congress to fund a border wall qualifies as an emergency will be up to the US courts. The underlying case that prompted him to do so is not favourable. Mr Trump talked of an “invasion” of “monstrous caravans” across the US border that only a wall could stop. He also talked of the massive casualties from drugs gangs and human trafficking. In practice, illegal border crossings into the US are running at less than a quarter of their peak at the start of this century.

The crisis ended after the 2008 financial meltdown. Illegal immigration across the US’s southern border peaked at 1.6m in 2000. It is now at its lowest level in nearly 50 years. And the overall numbers of illegal immigrants have actually fallen.

More people have been leaving the US than entering. Of the roughly 11m undocumented migrants in the US, almost half are estimated to have overstayed their visas.Mr Trump’s declaration will also test Republican patience.

Fewer than a third of Americans support Mr Trump’s move, according to polls. Many Republican senators have expressed deep misgivings about Mr Trump’s extravagant definition of executive power. Future Democratic presidents could declare global warming a national security crisis and push through the “Green New Deal”, said Marco Rubio, Mr Trump’s former presidential rival. More realistically, Mr Trump himself could escalate his use of emergency powers if the Supreme Court upheld this one (as he predicted it would in his accompanying commentary on the likely legal challenges). Were an illegal immigrant to be caught voting, for example, would Mr Trump post armed guards at polling stations? His imagination would be the limit.

A common sense reading of the US constitution would suggest Mr Trump’s move is illegal. He circumvented Congress, which allocated only $1.375bn for border security. He will now divert billions more from various Pentagon and Treasury budgets to build a wall. This undercuts Capitol Hill’s sole prerogative to approve spending.

Perhaps the most egregious example was in 1952 when president Harry Truman tried to nationalise US steel mills when workers went on strike. The Supreme Court struck that attempt down. Unlike Mr Trump’s confected border crisis, the US was in the midst of the Korean war.But Mr Trump has two things going for him.

The first is that the Supreme Court is now majority conservative. The court includes Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, two Trump appointees who take a robust view of White House powers. Second, Mr Trump has the base on his side. Most US voters may be unhappy with the move.

But conservative pundits, including Sean Hannity, the Fox News anchor whom many jokingly refer to as Mr Trump’s “de facto chief of staff”, applauded him. Mr Trump even cited Mr Hannity’s support in his declaration on Friday. Such figures are not concerned with the nitty gritty of actual facts on the US border.

Earlier this week, Fox News found that 45 per cent of Republicans believe God wanted Mr Trump to be president. That rose to 55 per cent of evangelicals. “He [God] wanted Donald Trump to be president and that’s why he’s there,” said Sarah Huckabee Sanders, Mr Trump’s spokesperson.

Those arguing against Mr Trump’s move on factual grounds may be missing the point. His border wall is an act of faith. If you believe the US-Mexico border poses a national security threat, then that is what it shall be.

edward.luce@ft.com

https://www.ft.com/content/d90a1b3c-311c-11e9-8744-e7016697f225

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