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Is there reason for concern yet ?


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2019 Jan 26, 4:50pm   3,889 views  19 comments

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1   mell   2019 Jan 26, 4:58pm  

No.
2   Tenpoundbass   2019 Jan 26, 5:04pm  

Let's put Roger Stone's alleged crime in perspective.

Comey comes out and says Hillary is a good Gurl she didn't mean it Ya'll. Honest!
Shoot, Golly! Gee Whiz, no court would convict her. Her emails were about Grandma stuff.

Then Seth Rich stole data from the DNC server.
Asange said he had a trove of Hillary private emails talking about top secret stuff.

I knew it, you knew it, any one with the least bit of curiosity during the 2016 election knew what Roger Stone allegedly tried to find out from Julian Asange.

Every Journalist in the world should have been asking Julian for the data and a run down on the source.

Seth Rich turned up dead three days later.
3   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jan 26, 5:34pm  

Tenpoundbass says
Every Journalist in the world should have been asking Julian for the data and a run down on the source.


They were. That's why it's bullshit.

There is nothing here, this is Mueller's hail mary.

No matter how many fact-free, speculative "Pictures with Arrows" connecting Putin, Snufalufagus, Bird Bird, and Trump the DeepState Press concocts out of fantasies.

It the most basic kind of manipulation but no surprise so many College Educated individuals who were never taught how to think, just which intersectional theories to apply, believe it.
4   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jan 26, 5:37pm  

Not long ago, the United States killed more Russians than at any time in History, possibly combined. Hundreds of Russians were killed or wounded, approaching 100% casualties.

In a single day, by aerial bombardment.

If Trump is a Putin appointee to help Russia and Weaken America, Putin really fucked up.
5   Patrick   2019 Jan 26, 6:17pm  

@marcus The fallacy with that graphic is called "guilt by association":

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/guiltbya.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

This was the central fallacy of McCarthyism, as the first link above points out. "You knew communists? You must be a communist!"

In this case, the graphic is a desperate-looking attempt to go after Trump by going after people near him, since Trump himself is still remarkably clean as politicans go. I myself am pretty surprised at how little evidence such intense politically motivated investigation has turned up.

Unfortunately, the attempt doesn't work at all because the press has ruined its own credibility by more than two years of exaggerations and outright lies motivated by hate for Trump.

When you've got something real on Trump, let us know. In the meantime, please consider that the economy is very good under Trump, and the risk of various conflicts (Korea, Iran, Syria) has gone down because of his foreign policy decisions. You are safer and probably richer because of Trump.
6   marcus   2019 Jan 26, 6:25pm  

Patrick says
since Trump himself is still remarkably clean as politicans go


Interesting.

Patrick says
"guilt by association":


Patrick says
When you've got something real on Trump, let us know


I only asked if there was reason for concern. I'll assume you think not.

Patrick says
please consider that the economy is remarkably good under Trump


Is it really that good, considering the tax cuts and 1.2 trillion dollar deficit he paid for it ?
9   marcus   2019 Jan 26, 7:22pm  

I'll take that as a yes.
10   Patrick   2019 Jan 26, 9:29pm  

Sure, call it a yes.
11   anonymous   2019 Jan 27, 2:15am  

Patrick says
You are safer and probably richer because of Trump.


Seriously ? Seriously?
13   Onvacation   2019 Jan 27, 8:43am  

marcus says

TDS at its finest.
14   Patrick   2019 Jan 27, 9:09am  

Kakistocracy says
Patrick says
You are safer and probably richer because of Trump.


Seriously ? Seriously?


Yes, absolutely.

Take the case of Korea doing nuclear missile tests. They stopped because of Trump. I don't know what the hell he promised them exactly, but damn, no other president was able to make that stop.

And the stock market was absolutely spectacular for a good year and a half, starting right after his election. Had a pullback, but still doing quite well overall, and rising again.

And we had the best increase in manufacturing jobs in 20 years.

And we have a near record low unemployment rate.

And on and on and on. You just wouldn't know it from the mainstream press. So much hate.
15   marcus   2019 Jan 27, 9:29am  

Patrick says
You just wouldn't know it from the mainstream press.


Let's take them one by one.

Patrick says
Take the case of Korea doing nuclear missile tests. They stopped because of Trump


Before they stopped becasue of Trump, they ramped up nuclear tests becasue of Trump. I wonder why ? Could it be becasue they thought they could play him ? I know that's what some conservative pundits think (note: conservative and right wing are not the same thing).

Patrick says
And the stock market was absolutely spectacular for a good year and a half, starting right after his election. Had a pullback, but still doing quite well overall, and rising again.


Much like what it's done since 2009. Nice boost from the tax cuts that they knew were coming.

Patrick says
And we had the best increase in manufacturing jobs in 20 years.


The right wing media is hilarious on this one and so misleading I've shown you the graph before. Manufacturing jobs have shown a very steady almost linear increase since 2010, and are nowhere close to where they were in 2007. And extremely below where they were in the 90s.

Patrick says
And we have a near record low unemployment rate.


Another very steady trend since 2010

Patrick says
You just wouldn't know it from the mainstream press.


ACtually, the press never even tried to put one over one the public regarding manufacturing jobs ( "best increase in 18 years" or whatever under Obama) becasue the mainstream media doesn't hold a candle to right wing media when it comes to lying.
16   MrMagic   2019 Mar 22, 3:58pm  

marcus says

Is there reason for concern yet ?


Hmmmmm, please tell.....

marcus says



Ahhhh, Ha Ha Ha ha Ha ha ha Ha Ha ha ha
17   Goran_K   2019 Mar 22, 4:05pm  

Wow there is going to be weeks of this lol
18   Heraclitusstudent   2019 Mar 22, 4:29pm  

Kakistocracy says
Patrick says
You are safer and probably richer because of Trump.


Seriously ? Seriously?

Not Russian trolls.
Ok maybe some.
19   MrMagic   2019 Mar 22, 7:53pm  

Anyone concerned yet?

Where's Rachel Maddow?

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