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Tenpoundbass says

I can post hundreds of examples where there's not as much as an inch

I'm sure the forum would be patient - how fast you can upload at least 100 or is this a Potus type exaggeration of things again ?

You just need to wear your Global Warming goggles, and you will see the place is inundated.

What if there is a 3-foot tidal difference?

Kakistocracy says

I'm sure the forum would be patient - how fast you can upload at least 100 or is this a Potus type exaggeration of things again ?

Your Lazy Ass has to produce one that shows sea level rise first.

SunnyvaleCA says

What if there is a 3-foot tidal difference?

I was happy for a moment now I'm back to thinking we'll all be dead next week..

Tenpoundbass says

Your Lazy Ass has to produce one that shows sea level rise first.

I defer since you made a claim you are unable and or unwilling to back up in which case you are folding like a cheap suit just like your esteemed leader in Washington.

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Tenpoundbass says

That's not how a challenge works.

Changing the rules midstream just like Potus. Already considered you to have folded just like him.

You ran your mouth or rather your fingers saying you could post 100s and I called you on it.

No challenge needed - post 100s or fold.

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I see you went to the school of Iwog.

I stand by the original post alone to make my case. I have a hole slew of them I will post. I've posted many here already. This isn't a new pet peeve of mine.
My Picture shows the Sea Level rise hoax for what it is, now what are you gonna do about it?

Do you want to look at the water marks on the Golden Gate and Brooklyn Bridge then get back to me first? Or check out Fort Jefferson, Rockaway Beach New York, the aerial views of Manhattan, Show me discrepancy in those water lines then I'll dig up 100 photos for you.

Tenpoundbass says

now what are you gonna do about it

Son, I keep picthing em but you keep missing em...

You made a claim of being able to do something you are unable or unwilling to do - now run along and find someone else to annoy- your wife or children maybe .

Baboo - that is "so long" in another language - you figure out which one

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Kakistocracy says

Son, I keep picthing em but you keep missing em...

Why don't you start posting them. You know, the photos showing the seal level rise, just like he asked for in the OP.

Oh, that's right, you won't/can't, as they don't exist.

That tree on the point is a slow grower.

I guess actual data isn't a thing. It's a conspiracy.

https://www.ausmarinescience.com/marine-science-basics/sea-level-rise-1/

The amount of sea level rise from 1910 to 2010 is something like 6 inches, but tidal changes are several feet. Better to go off on liberal conspiracies than just paying attention to reality.

So, let me get this straight. All the reality we are fed about science and data is fraudulent, but Brietbart is going to give you the real info ?

Never trust those nerds that did so much better in school than you. They are part of the conspiracy. Their book larnin didn't prepare them to have the kind of insights you have. All that sicence is BS. Except when it comes to technology you like. Then somehow magically it's good.

Oh, I see, for product manufacturing, and even science done long before the applications, that leads to those products, the science and the scientists are all legit. But somehow there are just those pockets of fraud when the fraudulent facts happen to be a conflict of interest with big fossil fuel interests. It's mostly there that they get it wrong.

I see. It all makes sense now.

NOT !!

Tenpoundbass says

I see you went to the school of Iwog.

Nope. Northern Michigan University, City College of New York, assorted other venues around the country but never heard of this University of Iwog.

Are you an alumni ?

marcus says

The amount of sea level rise from 1910 to 2010 is something like 6 inches, but tidal changes are several feet.

The water line on the San Francisco bridge alone calls that commie scientist that got my tax dollars to write that a lying scumbag. For it hasn't moved an inch.

And to talk about islands moving, you got to be kidding me? The Outer Banks of North Carolina are shifting constantly because it sits right in the pivotal turning point of the trade winds, and about 70% of every Tropical disturbance in the Atlantic ends up grazing them. There was an Island that was caught on film not there one week then there the next just last year.

Hollywood Beach has beach erosion but the actual water is still at the same level it was 100 years ago.

We have beach erosion because the Army Corp of Engineers built all of the Florida Coasts hot spot beaches up starting in the 40's. It was something they had to replenish every decade or so. It has not been done since the late 90's. As a result there is a huge rut off the coast that all of the beach sand ends up sliding back into.

If they left it alone the shore line used to be about a 1/4 mile or more out further.

They make a big deal about King Tide in Ft Lauderdale but that's another one that every 10 or 20 years a super huge one would come and swamp the bars and stores on the west side of AIA along the beach. All of the Old Floridians fled from the Brownificaion of South Florida in the early 90's. Now the Liberal's want to totally rewrite everything about South Florida. But I was here in the early 80's. I remember hurricanes, king tide and our rainy seasons. All of which Liberals try to politicize as Global Warming now.

Tenpoundbass says

I see you went to the school of Iwog.

The water has been rising about 4 inches per century. Florida and Manhattan will be inundated in a couple millennium.

I hope our descendants can build a wall or move to higher ground or they will drown. That is if the wetbulb does not get them first.

marcus says

Their book larnin didn't prepare them to have the kind of insights you have. All that sicence is BS. Except when it comes to technology you like. Then somehow magically it's good.

Just becasue.

Onvacation says

The water has been rising about 4 inches per century.

If that were the case Fort Jefferson would be under water and there would not be much land above ground.
If that were so the water would be above the base of the Pylon on most historic century old bridges but it's not.

Tenpoundbass says

under water and there would not be much land above ground.

Doggerland flooded. What makes you so sure Manhattan won't be under in 4019?

Elgatouno says

This really isn't proof of anything

So show us a couple of pics thay show drastic, or even a couple of feet, of searise over the last century?

That is the challenge!

Elgatouno says

You have heard of high tide and low tide.

Inland rivers and lakes which is subject to varying water levels show a distinct multi band of water level marks. Like a tree ring.

Coastal Inlets, Bays and Sea Side bridges and structures, have only one. Why is that Mr. Smarty Pants?

SunnyvaleCA says

What if there is a 3-foot tidal difference?

There are normally two distinct marks the low tide mark and the high tide mark.

Not going by tidal marks alone, that's why asked for pictures. You can see clearly in old historic photographs the water level on historic bridges.

Look History Channel says the water level on the Golden Gate Bridge is still at the same level the engineers designed it to be.



This matches the original plans perfectly.


Where's the 4 to 6 inch rise?

I nominate this as one of the more stupid "discussions" on Pat.net. Soon to be surpassed by an inevitable Polar Vortex vs. climate change thread.

rdm says

I nominate this as one of the more stupid "discussions"

Don't be a denier. There are way more stupid discussions here.

Still no picture not even just ONE to show a picture from the turn of the Century to now showing a sharp rise of sea level between a modern and old picture contrast.

You guys are pathetic. Perfect little Klantifa - the Democrat Party base.

rdm says

Soon to be surpassed by an inevitable Polar Vortex vs. climate change thread.

So at this point I'm pretty certain, if it was proved that the Sea Level fell 4 inches in the last decade.
Liberals would move the goal post and say. We didn't say Sea Level rise, we meant Sea Level Change was the greatest threat.

Onvacation says

The water has been rising about 4 inches per century. Florida and Manhattan will be inundated in a couple millennium.

I hope our descendants can build a wall or move to higher ground or they will drown. That is if the wetbulb does not get them first.

Ha Ha ha

You beat me to that... a 1 degree rise over a century, boy, I'm really sweating, yet every change of seasons ANNUALLY, the temperature swings 70 degrees, at least.

Elgatouno says

You have heard of high tide and low tide. How do we know that these pictures were taken at same tide level. The picture from 1910 could be at high tide and the picture from 2010 could be at low tide,how do we know this is not the case?

Feel free to stop bloviating and post some pictures showing the sea level rise and mean tide over the past century from GloBull Warming. Go ahead, do it.

I'll be waiting..... (a long time)...

Why isn't Sea Level rise cited in the destruction of the world's oldest Mangrove forests?

There's a sweet spot where mangroves grow. a few inches the either way and they will die off.
Says here man destroyed the Chakaria Sunderban.
If you care to take the time to educate yourself, so Ya'll don't sound so Stupid.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232660648_Goodbye_Chakaria_Sunderban_The_Oldest_Mangrove_Forest

zzyzzx says

Lolz

South Florida was always protected by Mangroves over 90% of our Mangroves have been cleared out as well.

And is the biggest reason King Tide affects Fort Lauderdale as bad as it does.

From the article.

From the immediate economic consideration, the shrimp culture is gaining precedence over maintenance of mangroves. But the indirect benefits of mangrove forests in nature conservation and protecting the lives and properties during cyclonic storms cannot be underestimated. For years local people have depended upon the mangrove forest for direct and indirect benefits. Many household necessities, such as firewood, housing materials, boat making materials,herbal plants for traditional medicines, honey and other minor products have been provided by the Chakaria Sunderban mangrove forest.The area was a very good habitat for different types of birds, mammals,reptiles, amphibians, and fish.Deforestation of Chakaria Sunderban affected the socio-economics of more than 90% of the local community.The causes and effects are presented in the problem tree diagram (Figure4). Tripp and Woolley (1989), IIRR(1998), Townsley (1996) and Pido etal. (1996) have described the principles of similar diagrams.Conclusion The clearance of mangroves is not only causing a colossal loss of coastal habitat, aquatic resources and biodiversity, but it is also increasing soil erosion, changing sedimentation patterns and shoreline configurations,increasing vulnerability to cyclonic storms, tidal bores and the denudation of feeding, breeding and nursery ground for various marine, estuarine and fresh water fishery resources. Asa result natural fisheries production have greatly reduced. Well-established management practices of shrimp farming in the mangrove environment clearly need to be incorporated into the law of the land to maintain sustainability of shrimp farming and other development options in the coastal zone of Bangladesh

Onvacation says

Doggerland flooded. What makes you so sure Manhattan won't be under in 4019?

Doggerland was exposed because much of the Earths Water was locked in Ice Sheets.
It was during this period, that the Sea Level was so low, the hydrostatic pressure conveyor fountain fresh water system of the Earth quit replenishing aquifers, rivers, and spring fed lakes. Once all of the static surface water was drank up. The Giant Fauna died off from Thirst not Starvation. I believe most of Earths great extinctions came from Water being trapped in Ice Sheets. And rivers systems then drying up.

Earth is at a sweet spot period in History, where fresh water is abundant, and sea level is at peak level. Due to physics it can not get any higher. The extra volume of water and weight forces water on the bottom of the Ocean deep in to the Earth where it is purified by Heat. Steam creates new freshwater, the salt is deposited in underground reservoirs, and the organic snow material is converted into Oil.

The Oil wells in Texas dried up in the 30's but just a few years ago, there was an Oil boom that rivaled the early Texas Oil days. The Oil is more renewable than previously thought.

But in this current cycle Earth Quakes and Volcanoes are more active than ever, because the extra water is pressing down on Earth is actually causing Earth Crust rise, not Sea Level rise.

There are new mysterious Lakes and Fissures being created every year somewhere on the planet. You look at the fissures the crust is expanding, and bulging out. Not collapsing. Look down deep in the fissures you'll see water.

A few years ago in Zepherhills Florida a huge sinkhole opened up and swallowed a guys brother as it took out the whole bedroom of a house.
The brother said it sounded like white water rapids deep down in the hole. He could hear rushing water.

Anyone care to explain how the Earth keeps spewing water into the Ocean but if it all is just floating on the top how the river systems keep getting replenished. And if the Water is floating on top of the Ocean the Sea would be rising an inch a Year if not a month.

There's a shit load of rivers dumping water into the Oceans around the world every minute of the day.

I'm still looking for those sea level rise pics while you're at it.

Tenpoundbass says

There's a shit load of rivers dumping water into the Oceans around the world every minute of the day.
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Good point. Billions of gallons are pumped out of the ground for daily use, then sent down a river, ending up in the ocean. The ocean level should be 10 times higher, just from that alone, the hell with melting of ice.

Tenpoundbass says

I'm still looking for those sea level rise pics while you're at it.

Amazing how quiet it gets when you challenge them to back up their bullshit.

MrMagic says

Good point. Billions of gallons are pumped out of the ground for daily use, then sent down a river, ending up in the ocean.

No besides the water being pumped out of the ground for our drinking consumption. Water is being pushed up mountains where it is sent down in Rivers. People say its from precipitation but I have lived in the mountains of South Carolina and a throughout walk through the woods, you'll find bubbling springs that trickle and collect then diverge into a brook then into streams then finally converging into rivers and white water rapids. That's besides the water being fed into aquifers feeding wells and lakes. Or the waste water dumped into the rivers that make it to the ocean.

But there is billions and billions of gallons of water a day pouring into the oceans without ice melt.

It is actually rising or not, stop fucking the environment.

Nobody says

stop fucking the environment.

What environment you caveman the 90's called they want their sensible activism back.

While Al Gore was sounding the Alarm on Global warming and how we would all be dead by now in the early 2000's. 80% of the world's rain forest were clear cut.
This was the cause of most of the violent unpredictable weather and the unseasonable heat felt around the world. They covered it up by blaming Cow farts and hamburgers.
Meanwhile Brazil looks like a barber took electric clippers to 80's of their rain forests, and the Indonesian Island chain was mostly clearcut for Palm plantations. That has since been harvested, and the eroded land now lies barren and can't produce anything.
Also the over fishing and the pollution of the Ocean was not addressed by Al Gore. He wanted us to focus on Cow Farts. And Sea Level rise.

First they blamed car exhausts but they didn't expect the auto industry would or could cut emissions by 80% in just a few short years. So they picked Cow Farts to carry the Climate Change Torch.