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‘232' tariffs pose worst trade threat yet, CAR study says


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2019 Feb 16, 4:30am   1,599 views  16 comments

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The economic harm from potential U.S. tariffs on imported autos and components would dwarf that of any other trade policy implemented by the Trump administration so far, according to a new study by the Center for Automotive Research.

If 25 percent tariffs on auto products were imposed on top of existing tariffs on Chinese imports, and steel and aluminum, more than three-quarters of the damage would be related to taxing autos, even if the effects are partially mitigated by the potential implementation of a new trade agreement in North America, the think tank said.

The 28-page cost analysis (link below), which compared the combined impact of 10 different tariff scenarios, underscores the magnitude of the auto industry's reach in the U.S. economy.

The report, which was sponsored by the National Automobile Dealers Association, estimates:

As many as 366,900 U.S. jobs will be lost — including as many as 77,000 franchised-dealership jobs.

U.S. light-duty vehicle prices will increase by $2,750 on average.

U.S. new light-duty vehicle sales will drop by up to 1.3 million units per year.

Dealerships will lose $43.6 billion — or $2.6 million each — under the worst-case scenario.

Many consumers will be forced into the used-car market.

The cost of maintaining and repairing vehicles will go up.

The report's release comes ahead of a Monday statutory deadline for the Commerce Department to give the White House the results of its so-called Section 232 investigation into whether imported vehicles and parts pose a national security threat. President Donald Trump will then have 90 days to review the department's recommendations and decide what steps, if any, to take.

The estimates of increased vehicle prices, lower unit sales and lost jobs are noticeably smaller than a study CAR did last July, which focused only on the fallout from auto tariffs by themselves. The new analysis, however, assumes that Canada, Mexico and South Korea will be exempted from the auto tariffs because of refreshed trade deals.

"This analysis confirms that broad Section 232 tariffs on autos and auto parts still present the biggest trade-policy threat to consumers and the U.S. economy," said NADA President Peter Welch. "NADA understands and appreciates the administration's attempts to level the trade playing field and eliminate unfair trade practices, but expansive Section 232 auto tariffs are the wrong tool for the job."

There is no guarantee the Commerce Department will meet the Monday deadline. It could claim an extra 35 days for the time lost due to the government shutdown, but has not yet done so. It is also common for executive agencies to blow past due dates because there are few consequences for doing so.

A Commerce Department spokesman did not respond to an e-mail seeking comment.

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross has argued that the president should have the authority to impose higher tariffs as a way to pressure trading partners to lower their tariffs and other trade barriers. “If we could impose reciprocal tariff levels with other countries, it would be easier to negotiate free trade agreements with them,” he wrote in an op-ed column for Fox Business this month.

https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/232-tariffs-pose-worst-trade-threat-yet-car-study-says

Center for Automotive Research Report cited in above article

https://www.cargroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/US-Consumer-Economic-Impacts-of-US-Automotive-Trade-Policies-.pdf

See also: Automakers brace for U.S. government report on import tariffs

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A confidential Commerce Department report due to be sent to Donald Trump on Sunday is widely expected to clear the way for the U.S. president to threaten tariffs on imported autos and auto parts by designating the imports a national security threat, auto industry officials said on Friday.

The report’s recommendations may bring the global auto industry a step closer to its worst trade nightmare - U.S. tariffs on millions of imported cars and parts of up to 25 percent that many in the industry fear would add thousands of dollars to the cost of vehicles and potentially cost hundreds of thousands of jobs throughout the U.S. economy.

The contents of the report are expected to remain classified while Trump considers its recommendations, leaving the industry and major car exporters Japan, the European Union and South Korea in the dark about its consequences.

Auto industry officials said they expect the report to recommend at least some tariffs so that the administration can use the findings of the probe as negotiating leverage during negotiations this year with Japan and the EU.

The report is the result of an investigation started by the Commerce Department in May 2018 at Trump’s request. Known as a Section 232 investigation, the probe’s purpose is to determine the effects of imports on national security.

The final version will be sent to the White House on Sunday to meet a statutory deadline, a Trump administration source told Reuters.

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 16, 4:45am  

Awwwww, give us 1st World subsidies but let us import from slave wage countries.

How else can we give China WW2 level tank manufacturing capacity?
2   anonymous   2019 Feb 16, 6:21am  

Elgatouno says
If both countries are worse off after a trade war, who won?


The Dotard will claim victory and the loyal base will believe him as they sign up for food stamps and unemployment compensation
3   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 16, 6:31am  

Kakistocracy says
The Dotard will claim victory and the loyal base will believe him as they sign up for food stamps and unemployment compensation



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6616431/I-guess-MAGIC-WAND-Trump-boasts-manufacturing-jobs-record-mocks-Obama.html

4   anonymous   2019 Feb 16, 6:33am  

MLTC - I'd like to stay and play but I have some tax returns to prepare for some clients - perhaps some other time ?
5   Goran_K   2019 Feb 16, 8:32am  

Elgatouno says
Kakistocracy says
Elgatouno says
If both countries are worse off after a trade war, who won?


The Dotard will claim victory and the loyal base will believe him as they sign up for food stamps and unemployment compensation


While we socialize the losses of the wealthiest of Americans.


Yeah it’s unfortunate Democrat hero OBAMA did that during the Great Recession.
6   Goran_K   2019 Feb 16, 8:37am  

Also this thread is more TDS than actual facts.



Meanwhile Democrat Hero Occasional Cortex blew her two remaining brain cells up one night after reading the Communist manifesto and literally chased 50,000 jobs out of New York.
7   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 16, 12:16pm  

I think because the HuffPo/Buzzfeed brigade experiencing lay offs, they think the economy sucks.

When it reality, the market for Woke Intersectional Social Justice was beyond saturated and suffering from serious overinvestment
8   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Feb 16, 3:11pm  

Kakistocracy says
U.S. tariffs on imported autos

The "chicken tax" has put 25% tariffs on "light trucks" since 1964. ("light trucks" includes SUVs, pickups, and minivans) What's the result? Light trucks are manufactured almost exclusively in the USA. That includes foreign name plates such as Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche, Honda, Toyota, etc.

And, even if this tariff drove up prices, light trucks are still enormously popular. Fancy German light trucks outsell fancy German cars by about 2-to-1 in spite of 25% tariffs or low-cost European manufacture of the cars in countries such as Slovakia and Hungary.

Better still, USA is a net exporter of fancy light trucks. That is what a 25% tariff can do. Since the companies are going to set up shop here in the USA, they might as well do all of their light truck manufacturing here.
9   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 16, 4:07pm  

SunnyvaleCA says
Better still, USA is a net exporter of fancy light trucks. That is what a 25% tariff can do. Since the companies are going to set up shop here in the USA, they might as well do all of their light truck manufacturing here.



Yes Sir!

Additionally, it's called the Chicken Tax because Western Europe slapped huge tarrifs on US Chicken in the 50s, before factory farming, hormones, overuse of antibiotics, etc. was a factor. The light truck tariff was a response to EuroTariffs.

The current ban on ALL US Poultry has to do with protecting inefficient Socialist Farmers from US Chicken, not with "Health", since European attempts to protect their markets began long before.

Frankly, we should similarly ban ALL French and German Wine and Beer until they re-open their markets to competition.

But yes, responding to foreign tariffs with tariffs of our own had fantastic results. Otherwise, Europeans would be exporting Light Trucks to the States, we wouldn't be making them in quantity, while totally banning our Chicken.
10   SunnyvaleCA   2019 Feb 16, 4:49pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
But yes, responding to foreign tariffs with tariffs of our own had fantastic results. Otherwise, Europeans would be exporting Light Trucks to the States, we wouldn't be making them in quantity, while totally banning our Chicken.


And, without the Chicken Tax, USA nameplate light trucks would be selling as well as USA nameplate cars, which is to say: not much. Ford has said they will phase out all car manufacture except for the Mustang. Chrysler now sells, I think, a single car: the 300. GM sells a few mega-horsepower specialty cars. Imagine if the F-150 sold as well as the Fiesta and Focus (which is to say ... not well enough to bother with the effort of a product refresh).
11   anonymous   2019 Feb 16, 5:06pm  

Comment # 9

"Also this thread is more TDS than actual facts"

Buzz words to the base from someone else on ignore....

Whatever is not pretty or full of flattery for the Golden Golem is TDS, Fake News, etc. - can we have Bad Man Orange or Orange Man Bad in there as well next time?
12   MrMagic   2019 Feb 16, 7:10pm  

Goran_K says
Also this thread is more TDS than actual facts.


So, you're seeing that trend too with the OP... Definitely a pattern.
13   anonymous   2019 Apr 1, 3:44pm  

U.S. sales drop with no reason for buying

Even the most optimistic forecasts for U.S. auto sales in March concede that the industry had its worst first quarter since at least 2015. In fact, it's expected to be the first time sales fell below 4 million vehicles in any three-month period over the past four years, amid tepid incentives, faltering consumer confidence and tighter credit availability.

Slightly smaller IRS refund checks as a result of the tax-reform law passed by Congress in December 2017 also hindered dealership traffic, according to Jonathan Smoke, chief economist at Cox Automotive.

"Consumers simply haven't had a compelling reason to buy," Smoke said last week.

Cox projects that March sales, scheduled to be reported Tuesday, April 2, will be down 6.7 percent from a year ago. Other forecasts call for a smaller decline, but there's little evidence that the industry fared better than a year ago, when it posted its second-best March ever.

The market's weakening could halt — soon, if not in March — Subaru's streak of consecutive year-over-year sales gains that began in December 2011. Cox estimates that Subaru's March sales declined 0.2 percent, and Subaru of America CEO Tom Doll said on Bloomberg Television last week that "there's no question" the 87-month streak is in jeopardy if the Trump administration levies tariffs on imported vehicles, causing prices to rise.

https://www.autonews.com/sales/us-sales-drop-no-reason-buying
14   anonymous   2019 Apr 1, 3:47pm  

Toyota's Lentz: U.S. has a lot to lose in trade fight

Toyota Motor North America CEO Jim Lentz can see storm clouds bubbling up hundreds of miles away.

But not every threat to Toyota's new North American headquarters comes from the sky — or from the west.

A still-polite but growing trade dispute between the U.S. and Japan — one with talk of 25 percent tariffs, volume-limiting quotas and faint echoes of jingoistic populist themes from three or four decades ago — threatens to "derail" an otherwise healthy U.S. auto market, Lentz says.

If worse comes to worst, and the two longtime trading partners can't find common ground, tariffs could knock down 2 million new-vehicle sales as quick as a Texas windstorm, he warned.

Lentz said that while the political efforts to boost U.S. auto manufacturing are not surprising, they also can't be viewed in a vacuum, and those investments in capacity aren't without risk.

"This is a global industry, and the markets are global," Lentz said. "You can't just add hundreds of thousands of units of capacity to the U.S. and necessarily have that make sense over time. We're an industry here in the U.S. where it wasn't too long ago that we suffered from overcapacity. I don't think any of us want to go back to that again. We almost lost the industry [in 2009] as a result of overcapacity."

More: https://www.autonews.com/manufacturing/toyotas-lentz-us-has-lot-lose-trade-fight
15   Booger   2019 Apr 1, 6:53pm  

Toyota can not be considered an unbiased source in US tarrifs.
16   Bd6r   2019 Apr 1, 6:56pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
Frankly, we should similarly ban ALL French and German Wine and Beer until they re-open their markets to competition.

Don't care about wine, but beer is a SACRAMENT! and any tariffs on it should be met with violent rebellion followed by skinning and salting tariff instigators alive.

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