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The US is fat and complacent, through no fault of China’s


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2019 Feb 26, 12:41am   1,351 views  26 comments

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It is a fact that the Chinese are making great leaps forward in innovation and technology, and cannot be blamed for the US’ own slip in global innovation rankings. However, Trump and his team are not strong on facts.

How lame has the United States become? You’ve only got to look at its strategy towards China to work that out. Rather than stepping up and competing in innovation and technology, President Donald Trump and his advisers have opted to contain and cripple.

But tariffs, bans and threats are no way to deal with a nation that is increasingly a world leader in inventiveness. Look at the spending and research, the quest for answers and solutions, the hunger to improve: the Chinese are on the march and won’t be stopped.

This is not a statement resulting from brainwashing; it is based on reality. Realism isn’t something Trump and his team are strong on. They prefer to live in a world of spies and enemies, a Hollywood-inspired place of “them and us”, where there are good guys and bad guys, where others are “either with us or against us”. They have lumped China together with Russia, and adopted a strategy to weaken and neutralise both rivals.

There was a time when the US just shrugged off rivals and got on with the business of being better. Sure, where the Soviet Union was concerned, there was an arms race, military posturing, spying, sanctions and recalls of diplomats, but at the same time, the US also reached milestones in space exploration and made leaps forward in telecommunications and computing. Now the US is fat and comfortable, and its spark of creativity has dimmed. It will only worsen as Trump freezes out Chinese and other foreign scientists, researchers and students, who have been so important to helping the US innovate.

If Trump and his team had taken the time to understand, they would have seen that China is just doing what their own country did in decades past; improve lives and boost economic growth by giving bright minds the best possible environment to create and innovate. President Xi Jinping articulated the approach in 2016, outlining a vision for China to become a leading innovator in science and technology by 2030.

Yes, there has been copying and forcing of technology transfers as part of business deals, but the basics have been learned and the nation is now moving down the path of scientific trailblazing. It is the result of education focused on producing researchers, scientists and engineers, an economy that blends state capitalism and free enterprise to great effect, and a government that supports entrepreneurship.

Chinese leadership in robotics, artificial intelligence and supercomputing is what troubles the Trump team the most. That isn’t all that is coming out of China’s laboratories, though. The landing of the Chang’e-4 probe on the far side of the moon, a space flight first, is proof of how far Chinese space research has come.

Then there is an impressive and ever-growing list of other global firsts, including: a quantum communications satellite (China is also developing an unhackable quantum network that will use photons to send data); an autonomous passenger-carrying drone called the Ehang 184 that is in an advanced testing stage and can fly at speeds of up to 130km/h; an artificial moon planned for Chengdu next year that would be eight times as bright as the actual moon and could dramatically reduce power bills; a fully-automated trackless train system in Zhuzhou, Hunan province that could make bus and tram systems a thing of the past; a deep-sea mining vessel that can work at depths of up to 2,500 metres; and 3D-printed cars and houses.

China is not to blame for the US slipping in global innovation rankings while it is on the rise, or for Americans being less than stellar when it comes to maths and science competency. The Chinese are resourceful and their circumstances have made them resilient, while the nation’s four decades of rapid growth has led to bountiful optimism. They are everything the Americans, in the era of Trump, are not.

https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/united-states/article/2187550/newsflash-donald-trump-it-isnt-chinas-fault-us

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1   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 12:44am  

"Made in China 2025": How Beijing is boosting its semiconductor industry -automated infogrpahic

https://multimedia.scmp.com/news/china/article/2165504/china-2015-semiconductors/index.html
2   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2019 Feb 26, 3:47am  

China has a Go China attitude that would be condemned by dopey liberals here if attempted by the USA. These same liberals will deride the USA's alleged descent. Despicable scum.
3   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 4:49am  

China has a Go China attitude that would be condemned by dopey liberals here if attempted by the USA. These same liberals will deride the USA's alleged descent. Despicable scum.l

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We fritter our efforts building social media platforms, apps, spaceship buildings etc. and unless I misread something - it was right of center posters who were focusing on the Jesse Smollet case. The same posters who want those high paying jobs with benefits back here but will scream bloody murder when they have to pay for those made in America products.

The products that would give their fellow American's good high paying jobs with benefits and a living wage - NIMBY consumerism is the order of the day - let someone else buy that high priced crap.

The same posters who day in day out hysterically scream about SJWs etc.

The majority of the American public (both politcal parties) doesn't give a rat's ass about anything serious - the comprehension level won't allow it.

Reading - anything over a paragraph or two and you've lost most of them. The concentration level and attention span is less than that of a fruit fly - back to the smart phone and see what's on Facebook, Twitter etc. - something easy to grasp.

The Kardashians, reality television, The Voice, America's Got Talent, the endless list of mind numbing contest programs airing, the mall or what's left of them, buying useless bullshit and shoving shit down their pie holes from the latest restaurant that opened is all that matters.

If it requires thought, count the average American out.

The only Americans who really care are the ones that lost their jobs over trade and offshoring.

Everyone on here using a smart phone, pc - it came from China, Vietnam, Korea, Taiwan. Cue up the bring the jobs back to Murica and follow that with the shit is too god damn expensive. Fucking greedy unions - bust them up now and get the cost down.

Our sense of national pride has been replaced with faux national pride in the forms of flag waving, calling ourselves patriots, screaming MAGA and Winning etc. while looking for the latest bargain at Wal-Mart or similar that came from China.
4   RC2006   2019 Feb 26, 5:33am  

America and most of the west has grown soft mostly because of liberals. The rest of the world is cutthroat and view us as weak, they know they can come to any western country and take advantage of the safety nets that have been setup, use our laws and naive kindness against us. Countries like China know we are no longer playing the long game and its only a matter of time before we can't sustain our military might.
5   lostand confused   2019 Feb 26, 5:55am  

Liberals made the US fat and complacent. LIberals are more worried about 32 genders and political correctness and allowing millions of illegals pour in and giving them free healthcare. Perhaps this nation has to collapse before we come back to our senses.
6   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 7:01am  

America and most of the west has grown soft mostly because of liberals

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Please provide some verifiable measurable examples of this phenomenon. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.
7   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 7:07am  

lostand confused says
Perhaps this nation has to collapse before we come back to our senses.


It will and we won't as evidenced by the housing and stock markets but by then we will no longer be a respectable number 3 in the world.
8   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 7:08am  

lostand confused says
Liberals made the US fat and complacent. LIberals are more worried about 32 genders and political correctness and allowing millions of illegals pour in and giving them free healthcare.


Item #1. Please provide some verifiable measurable examples of this phenomenon. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.

Item #2. Please provide some concrete data that show only "liberals" employ undocumented illegals in large numbers. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.

This would include the political record of the CEO/CFO of the large meatpackers, home builders etc.
9   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Feb 26, 7:10am  

Handouts make people lazy. You’ve laid out a great argument against Democratic Party policies.
10   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 7:15am  

Handouts make people lazy. You’ve laid out a great argument against Democratic Party policies.

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Please provide some verifiable measurable examples of this phenomenon. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.
11   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 26, 8:03am  

Nice propaganda on the heels of China's huge soybean buy as just one of many concessions Trump is winning.
12   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 9:30am  

MisterLearnToCode says
China's huge soybean buy as just one of many concessions Trump is winning


Perdue expects China’s purchases of soybeans to be so-called old crop, meaning the supplies U.S. farmers harvested in the fall. U.S. inventories are expected to double this year amid rising yields and a drop in exports to China.

https://agfax.com/2019/02/25/trade-talk-deadline-increased-china-commits-to-buy-more-soybeans/

Farmers are still losing - farm subsides (welfare that is GOP approved) is not enough to keep them "whole"and bankruptcies are on the increase
in addition to other countries (Russia) taking advantage of the lull in the import action by China to carve out additional market share.
13   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 9:34am  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
And, remember, union membership is exactly the same as ISIS membership.


Spend enough time reading the comments on here and one would easily be convinced of that.
14   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 26, 11:33am  

Kakistocracy says

Farmers are still losing - farm subsides (welfare that is GOP approved) is not enough to keep them "whole"and bankruptcies are on the increase
in addition to other countries (Russia) taking advantage of the lull in the import action by China to carve out additional market share.


Trump is doing things for farmers that no President has done in decades.

More importantly, manufacturing is on the rebound. As part of GDP and Employment, it's many, many times the employment and 50-100% better wages than agra jobs.
15   RC2006   2019 Feb 26, 11:57am  

Kakistocracy says
Handouts make people lazy. You’ve laid out a great argument against Democratic Party policies.

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Please provide some verifiable measurable examples of this phenomenon. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.


Democrats are pushing for sanctuary cities at all costs. Immigrants aren't assimilated into American culture, but they are assimilating into our welfare system.



16   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 26, 12:30pm  

Most likely because there are programs in Massachusetts where "Abused Women" (who are required provide no proof of abuse, nor citizenship nor residency) get paid for every single co-inhabitant (NOT dependent, this can include her 20-something Uzbek/Paki Cousins or even strangers), so they cans imply pay the rent privately.

Feminists love the program because so many opportunists inflate the number of "Abused women"

Thank you @RC2006 for the charts.
17   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 12:34pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
Trump is doing things for farmers that no President has done in decades.


Bankrupting them in larger numbers than ever before so the Agribusiness and Mega-Farms will be all we have left ?
18   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 12:35pm  

MisterLearnToCode says
this can include her 20-something Uzbek/Paki Cousins or even strangers


West Virginia ? Or the hollers in Tennessee and Kentucky ?
19   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 12:57pm  

RC2006 - The charts while very nice are from 2014, anything newer ?

The charts in and of themselves do not prove anything about "liberals" being solely responsible or even partially responsible for the dumbing down and overt laziness of Americans.

Nor do they constitute proof that "Handouts make people lazy" - (that would be more of a science based research I believe or something along those lines conducted over a significant period of time)

Nor do the charts prove America and most of the west has grown soft mostly because of liberals

Anything other than hysterical allegations backed up by data sets that do not support the allegations in terms of proof ?

They are nice charts though.
20   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 2:12pm  

Dear respondents - up to now nothing provided is showing a direct or even an indirect correlation between the numbers on the charts and anything else (i.e. cause and effect) in relationship to someone's ambition or lack there of.

Therefore the comments about liberals etc. and other rebuttals remain hysterical meaningless allegations without proof of anything
21   Heraclitusstudent   2019 Feb 26, 2:26pm  

Kakistocracy says

Then there is an impressive and ever-growing list of other global firsts, including: a quantum communications satellite (China is also developing an unhackable quantum network that will use photons to send data); an autonomous passenger-carrying drone called the Ehang 184 that is in an advanced testing stage and can fly at speeds of up to 130km/h; an artificial moon planned for Chengdu next year that would be eight times as bright as the actual moon and could dramatically reduce power bills; a fully-automated trackless train system in Zhuzhou, Hunan province that could make bus and tram systems a thing of the past; a deep-sea mining vessel that can work at depths of up to 2,500 metres; and 3D-printed cars and houses.


Concentration camp with more than a million person. Every citizen spied constantly with face recognition software. Congratulation China. Global first!

The US could soon end-up in a communist re-education camp of 300 millions.
China's not to blame! The US fault for living the life. Some of its citizen cheered as it happened.
22   RC2006   2019 Feb 26, 3:12pm  

Kakistocracy says
network that will use photons to send data

Ooo aahhhh photons to send data lol.
23   lostand confused   2019 Feb 26, 3:14pm  

Kakistocracy says
Item #1. Please provide some verifiable measurable examples of this phenomenon. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.

Item #2. Please provide some concrete data that show only "liberals" employ undocumented illegals in large numbers. Something other than hysterical allegations and assertions.

This would include the political record of the CEO/CFO of the large meatpackers, home builders etc.

Liberals openly state that is their position-they do not hide their positions-LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
24   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2019 Feb 26, 4:01pm  

Kakistocracy says
The US is fat and complacent, through no fault of China’s
What a bunch of post-menopausal moaning gibberish. But again I have to ask - please name one or two top ten international Chinese rock groups. Sill waiting....
25   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Feb 26, 4:04pm  

Kakistocracy says
Bankrupting them in larger numbers than ever before so the Agribusiness and Mega-Farms will be all we have left ?


Most farming is agrabusiness now. It's a little past Farm Aid, for which you can blame the Democratic House.

That being said, manufacturing is far, far more important than agra in terms of GDP, Jobs, and IP.
26   anonymous   2019 Feb 26, 4:13pm  

Dear respondents - up to now nothing provided is showing a direct or even an indirect correlation between the numbers on the charts and anything else (i.e. cause and effect) in relationship to someone's ambition or lack there of.

Therefore the comments about liberals etc. and other rebuttals remain hysterical meaningless allegations without proof of anything - child like actually

And a big thanks to "ww" for opting to follow me - mmuuaahh !

Another yyuuggee thanks for proving my point from yesterday beyond any shadow of anyone's doubt - the ones I have on ignore

Thread - 2019-02-23"=>http://patrick.net/post/1322614/2019-02-23 you-and your-will-now-be-highlighted-in-red">http://patrick.net/post/1322614/2019-02-23 you-and your-will-now-be-highlighted-in-red

Comment #30 This has nothing to do with "tolerance" and everything to do with being impeded to a small degree from running wild thru the threads to see how many times someone can be "triggered" and then wait for the high fives in the form of like votes from the allies to roll in.

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