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Mr. MAGA and the End of Western Civilization

By Kakistocracy following x   2019 Mar 15, 5:19am 367 views   38 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


Folks in the West are taught that their civilization has its roots in ancient Rome and/or ancient Greece.

This is more a case of self-aggrandizement than serious historical research. While it is true that the city of Rome was sacked in 410 AD, the Christian Roman civilization continued in the East for another 1000 years until 1453. The real roots of what we nowadays call the western civilization are to be traced back to the following time periods:

1.Most ancient (theoretical) roots: the early Frankish Merovingian Kingdom (481–751) and Carolingian empire (751–843).

2.Formative roots: the so-called “Holy Roman Empire” (800-1806) which was “Roman” only in name (this term appeared only in the XIIIth century; in French it is called more accurately “Saint-Empire romain germanique” but it really ought to be called the “Germanic Empire”, since it was neither “Roman” nor “Holy”).

3.Modern (ideological) roots: Renaissance, French Revolution, WWI, WWII, Cold War.

But in practical terms, we can say that the western civilization emerged from the Middle-Ages (5th-15th centuries) or, even better, from the times of the Crusades (1095-1410). Far from being the heir to the Roman Empire, the AngloZionist Empire is a direct descendant from the Franks and the civilization they built in the West on the ruins of the Christian Roman Empire. When Muslims nowadays speak of “Western Crusaders” they are absolutely spot on.

The only difference between the original Crusaders and their modern descendants is that the former at least pretended to be Christians. The latter wear their crass materialism as a badge of honor.

This civilization can be characterized by tremendous intellectual, technological and scientific achievement, arguably the most beautiful music ever composed (especially J.S. Bach) and many other artistic and architectural masterworks. Alas, it also has a darker side: imperialism, racism, genocide, slavery, religious and political persecutions and, of course, two world wars. So that record is checkered, to put it mildly, but it cannot be denied that in spite of its sins and flaws, western civilization also brought the world an immense intellectual legacy which inspired people worldwide.

If you ask most western people what they associate with the western civilization they would probably name things like the scientific method, democracy, human rights, civil rights, the separation of powers, equality before the law, etc. People from other civilizations might view the western civilization in a very different way, but we can ignore that for our purposes.

But what the so-called “collective West” (aka the AngloZionist Empire) is showing today is the exact opposite of what the West is supposed to stand for. Here are just a few examples:

1.International law: with the US/NATO aggression against the Serbian nation, a major feature of western civilization died: international law. What began then with bombs on Serbian civilians in the Serbian Krajina and Bosnia continues today with the absolutely disgraceful “alignment” of the key western power and the diktat of the Anglosphere, be it on the Skripal false flag, the many chemical false flags in Syria or, most recently, the AngloZionist coup against the legitimate government of Venezuela. The truth is that nobody gives a damn about international law in the AngloZionist Empire’s ruling class and that nowadays “might makes right”.

2.Human rights: the sad and outrageous truth is that the West is currently backing a (completely illegal) Nazi regime in the Ukraine, a Takfiri regime in the KSA and a Zionist (and openly racist regime) in occupied Palestine. All these regimes are mass violators of human rights and basic norms of civilized behavior. Needless to say, the US does violate a huge number of international norms and conventions in human rights, labor rights, due process, civil rights, etc. And we all know that the infamous Patriot Act was written even before the 9/11 false flag operation.

3.Law of War and Geneva Conventions: same here, the US is gleefully ignoring many of the most sacred provisions of the laws of war and the Geneva Conventions either by not ratifying parts of these instruments or by finding ways to circumvent them (think Gitmo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram or even the many “black” CIA prisons located in various countries world-wide; think “extraordinary rendition” too, of course). Likewise, the US totally and unconditionally support the Uber-violator of all imaginable legal obligations: Israel

4.Due process, especially evidentiary rules, have become a farce. Anybody doubting that should look up the following names: “Sami al-Arian”, “Sibel Edmonds”, “Victor Bout”, “Anwar al-Awlaki” or even “Julian Assange”. While nominally independent from the other branches of government, it appears that at least the main US courts are fully controlled by the Neocons and their Deep State.

5.Respect for the political process: it is absolutely clear that the Clinton Gang never accepted the election of Trump as POTUS and by rejecting this outcome, or by trying to label Trump as a “Russian agent”, the AngloZionist leaders will never accept their defeat. Hillary’s famous “basket of deplorables” comment is a perfect illustration of the immense contempt in which the AngloZionists hold the regular people of the US.

6.Open, competitive, markets. It is pretty clear that the US has no use for open, competitive, markets and that the leaders of the Empire will use any and all methods to avoid an honest competition with the other countries, hence all the endless lists of sanctions, of threats against countries which might dare purchase non-US systems (the entire S-400 vs F-35 issue with Turkey is a perfect example). When we look at western countries, especially the US, we see what some call “crony capitalism” with absolutely fantastic levels of corruption, huge mega-corporations in control of entire segments of the economy, exports imposed by sanctions and threat of sanctions rather than competitive advantages, feudal labor laws, a ruthless imperialist/colonial policy of systematically robbing those who dare to live above resources the Empire needs or wants.

7.Respect for alliances and partnerships. The AngloZionist Empire has no allies – only vassal states, puppet regimes and comprador 5th columnists. The US has always treated its so-called “allies” with utter contempt, but until Trump this contempt was hidden behind a thin veneer of diplomatic language. With Trump, even that is long gone.

Much More to Read: http://www.unz.com/tsaker/mr-maga-and-the-end-of-western-civilization/

Note: If reading is not your thing - just react to the headlines...

1   Hugolas_Madurez   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 9:05am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
US/NATO aggression against the Serbian nation


Russian bullshit detected.
2   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 9:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kak, you know the Saker is a Russian Bigot who hates America so much yet he lives in Florida, right? He has a very interesting "history."

He is the Mighty Arensal of Truth!
https://russia-insider.com/en/politics/saker-mighty-arsenal-truth-against-lies-support-his-fund-drive/ri22913

And a pearl of wisdom republished in Globalresearch.ca
https://www.globalresearch.ca/author/the-saker

In fact, he proves the Russian Military is the best in the World
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-best-armed-forces-on-the-planet-america-or-russia/5569538

America Bad, Britain Bad, Catholics Bad, Protestants and Israel/Zyds exceptionally evil; Assad Good, Hezbollah Heroic, Muslims are Great, Orthodoxy unimpeachable, and Putin the Champion of the World. Naturally, he loathes Donald Trump.

Hugolas_Madurez says
Russian bullshit detected.


Interestingly, he had a fallout with Nationalist Serbs because he thinks the Serbs didn't kowtow to Russia and himself, and because Nationalist Serbs hate Muslims, who are his beloved. After promising free speech on his site, he quickly ran afoul of his Serbian Collaborators over their criticism of volunteer Muslim headchoppers in the Yugoslav Wars:
https://cirilizovano.blogspot.com/2015/11/who-is-saker.html
3   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 10:29am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Kak, you know the Saker is a Russian Bigot


Thank you for bringing up one or more of the all important "3Ps." Going to let you figure out which one(s).

Must mount the attack ...

In case there has been a memory lapse - the Three "P"s are POSITION, PERSON and POLITICS.

As far as this commentary - "Hugolas_Madurez says" - Russian bullshit detected.

Another classic example of a well thought out intelligent comment from the respondent. It is an improvement though, now up to three words, each one with more than four letters this time.
4   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Mar 15, 10:33am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Kak, you know the Saker is a Russian Bigot who hates America so much yet he lives in Florida, right? He has a very interesting "history."


Ahhh crap..

Another TDS thread goes down in flames... Is it Friday? Must be TDS day.
5   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 10:37am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Another classic example of a well thought out intelligent comment from the respondent. It is an improvement though, now up to three words, each one with more than four letters this time.


He said what I said in a less verbose way.

Kakistocracy says
In case there has been a memory lapse - the Three "P"s are POSITION, PERSON and POLITICS.


AKA The business model of VOX
6   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 10:40am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Far from being the heir to the Roman Empire, the AngloZionist Empire is a direct descendant from the Franks and the civilization they built in the West on the ruins of the Christian Roman Empire.

This is meaningless crap. There is no link between the Franks and the English or the Jews. The Franks were essentially barbarians and we can hardly speak of "civilization" before the renaissance. Oh and there was no link between "the Franks" and "crusades" either.
The entire post is pseudo historical crapola.

Even Trump is to a large extent a reaction to trends that have been there to a long time. It's ridiculous to focus on Trump and ignore everything else in the context.
7   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 10:42am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yep, Heraclitusstudent, as I said, Saker is simply an "Eastern" Orthodox Bigot, right down to "Little Brother Serbia ought to obey Big Brother Russia and not bark at Big Brother's Muslim Friends". Not to mention a hypocrite for living in the Decadent West instead of "Russia on the Rise".

What's even more ironic is that he is the very apex of a Rootless Cosmopolitan, born in Switzerland to a Dutch Mother and Russian Father, having spent little time himself in Russia, but rather all over Western Europe and the USA. The father was gone by the time he was 5.

Even more delicious is that Raevsky seems to have had a job cajoling Serbs on behalf of International Organizations to ethnically cleanse themselves out of various areas in the 90s.

This is like all the Half-Black Obamas, Kamalas, and that actress who was very popular 10 years ago, raised by their "White" Mother, but always celebrating the Father that abandoned them or they did not live with as a child.
8   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 10:43am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
the AngloZionist Empire


I'll pass on hating Anglo-saxons people because it's not seen as particularly reprehensible, but you seem to animated by a particular hatred of the Jews.
You hateful bigot.
9   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 10:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
but you seem to animated by a particular hatred of the Jews.
You hateful bigot.




Someone who is against or taking issue with "Zionsim" is not automatically "Anti-semitic.

They are two totally different animals

Then again not sure how what I post is indicative of my personal beliefs but be that as it may, the "forum" has a unique way of determining someone's beliefs for them even with not one iota of evidence (based on personal interaction spanning several decades) to back up there assertions other than previous posts and or comments which may or may not represent anything.

Sometime I opt to put things down just because and see what happens, an old technique from facilitators training
10   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 10:56am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Michel Chossudovsky, Pepe Escobar, Israel Shamir, etc. etc. All these guys are published in the same rags and while some are "Muh Russia" and others are "China, the coming Hegemon of the World" all of them have on thing in common: Hatred and Massive Ill-Will towards Anglo-Americans (esp. Protestants and Baptists in particular) and Jews.

The other interesting thing is that they are beloved by both ends of the Horseshoe; Fascists and Hard Leftists alike.
11   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Keep using those 3 Ps...
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12   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Someone who is against or taking issue with "Zionsim" is not automatically "Anti-semitic.


What other nationalism do you oppose besides Jewish and American?
13   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 10:58am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
Heraclitusstudent


Why not go back and let the attack crowd make a fool of you again on this thread - the Global Cooling thread from a few hours ago. Not sure why anyone plays along with this bullshit but they always manage to find someone to play "gotcha"

http://patrick.net/post/1316093/2018-05-18-global-cooling-1-2-degree-in-last-2-years
14   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 11:01am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
What other nationalism do you oppose besides Jewish and American?


Much rather you define that for me...going to happen anyway...let's see how well you do...go for it big dog. Get the loud mouth with the empty head from Jersey to help.

Then when done with that how about an explanation for the difference between Zionism and Semitism - that might help but could ruin a hysterical rant and attack

Last time - slowly - someone who take issue with Zionism, Zionists is not Anti-Jewish.
15   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 11:04am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Another classic example of a well thought out intelligent comment

Why do you hate America?
16   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 11:07am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Last time - slowly - someone who take issue with Zionism, Zionists is not Anti-Jewish.


Have you read the OT? The recurring theme is a return to Israel. You know, the book of Exodus, Babylonian Exile, Psalm 137..

You cannot be anti-Zionist and a Jew, for example. And I am a bad one, but I was educated well in my (former?) religion and not by secular Tikkun Olam schmucks.

NK is a splinter group of a splinter Group (Satmar), the Unitarian-Universalists of Haredi, maybe 0.1% of the Jewish population. Secular Judeo-Bolsheviks from the Greenbelt like Ariel Gold aren't Jewish anymore than Hard Left Female Chaplains of Planned Parenthood are Christians
17   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 11:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
You cannot be anti-Zionist and a Jew, for example


Bullshit - someone on here that no longer posts from the greater Las Vegas area was exactly that and that was one of his reoccurring messages - the dangers of Zionism
18   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 11:09am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
ou know, the book of Exodus, Babylonian Exile, Psalm 137..


I try to read that stuff with a grain of salt and then look for scientific backup
19   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 11:12am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
I try to read that stuff with a grain of salt and then look for scientific backup



I didn't say it was 100% historically accurate, I said it was a recurring theme.

Jews returning to Israel is an undeniable major focus of the Old Testament. To say that you can be Jewish and not believe in the return of Jews to a free Jewish Israel is like saying your can be Christian without believing in the Resurrection.

And yes, I know that there are retarded people who claim to be Christian while disbelieving in the Resurrection.
20   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 11:13am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MLTC - as always it's been fun and I will catch up with you later. Enjoy.
21   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 11:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Bullshit - someone on here that no longer posts from the greater Las Vegas area was exactly that and that was one of his reoccurring messages - the dangers of Zionism


You mean Gary Anderson?
22   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 11:23am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Someone who is against or taking issue with "Zionsim" is not automatically "Anti-semitic.

They are two totally different animals


Right. To talk of the AngloZionist Empire, you first need to assume that this empire is led in good part by jews, meaning you are claiming jews have undue influence, beyond their numbers, and in a direction that is self serving.
At that point, you are already in Anti-semitic territory.

Kakistocracy says
Sometime I opt to put things down just because and see what happens, an old technique from facilitators training

That's it: run from your own posts.
23   Heraclitusstudent   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 15, 11:29am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
But in practical terms, we can say that the western civilization emerged from the Middle-Ages (5th-15th centuries) or, even better, from the times of the Crusades (1095-1410). Far from being the heir to the Roman Empire, the AngloZionist Empire is a direct descendant from the Franks and the civilization they built in the West on the ruins of the Christian Roman Empire. When Muslims nowadays speak of “Western Crusaders” they are absolutely spot on.


24   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 15, 11:39am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
But in practical terms, we can say that the western civilization emerged from the Middle-Ages (5th-15th centuries) or, even better, from the times of the Crusades (1095-1410). Far from being the heir to the Roman Empire, the AngloZionist Empire is a direct descendant from the Franks and the civilization they built in the West on the ruins of the Christian Roman Empire. When Muslims nowadays speak of “Western Crusaders” they are absolutely spot on.


Think about how retarded that is. Britain was birthed by the Roman Empire, who abandoned the province, and two invasions of non-Christian, non-Frankish Pagans, the Vikings and the Angles-Saxons. At no time was England part of the Carolingian Empire, or the Holy Roman Empire it became, or anything like. It's not a direct descendant or even a cousin of the Franks.

Consider the Irony that Saker considers Russia the direct descendant of the Roman Empire via Byzantium, ignoring the Slavic, Turkic, Mongolian, and Viking possession of Russia and that the Patriarch in Moscow didn't become important for all Orthodoxy until after Byzantium was conquered by the Turks around 1450.

By 1450, Britain was already prepping for a break with Rome, with the Lollards and Wat Tyler's rebellion being pre-protestant movements that rocked the country.
25   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Mar 15, 1:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Then again not sure how what I post is indicative of my personal beliefs


Kakistocracy says
Sometime I opt to put things down just because and see what happens, an old technique from facilitators training


Yes,,

In the majority of cases, that's considered TROLLING.

Typical day..
26   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 15, 2:00pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Mr. MAGA and the End of Western Civilization

This is worst of Russian nationalist crapola I have seen in a long time...perhaps it is not t-RUMP who is colluding with Russians, but some people who accuse him of doing so.

href="/post/1323127">Kakistocracy says

AngloZionist coup against the legitimate government of Venezuela

Kakistocracy says
“collective West” (aka the AngloZionist Empire)


Sounds like Volkischer Beobachter. Saker could have easily pawned off his "intellectual achievements" to Adolf.
27   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 3:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
You mean Gary Anderson?


Yes.
28   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 15, 3:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Heraclitusstudent says
That's it: run from your own posts.


Not here to entertain you like you have been entertaining the attack squad on the Global Cooling threads etc.

Taunts as per running away etc. do not work for me. Try another person.

Nor do I feel the need to stay on line when I have other things to do.

Been around this place too long now - I know the games, the players, the rules both written and unwritten.
29   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 15, 3:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I swear kaki is Russian bot.
30   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 16, 10:40am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
I swear kaki is Russian bot.


This Russian bot - is new version of Borscht ? Tell me comrade - this bot while listen music, have vodka, tell everything you know...everything including family politics. Maybe like to see Eastern Russia ?

31   Ceffer   ignore (1)   2019 Mar 16, 11:44am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

There's nothing wrong with our Great Socialist Paradise that the death of 30 percent or our intransigent population can't cure.
32   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 16, 12:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Not here to entertain you

Obviously.
33   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 16, 12:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Obviously.



Can't even come close to the self entertainment that the Global Cooling, What is the Ideal Earth Temperature etc. threads brings to yourself and others but then I have enough sense not to get hooked into a game of gotcha with the morbidly dysfunctional.

Sadly some people chose to respond in good faith to those threads and other the nonsense not realizing what they were dealing with.
34   Elgatouno   ignore (2)   2019 Mar 17, 6:49am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says

Hugolas_Madurez says
Russian bullshit detected.


Interestingly


Pat.net sockpuppet detected
35   MrMagic   ignore (11)   2019 Mar 17, 7:56am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Pat.net sockpuppet detected


True.

Which one of your 4+ sockpuppet accounts can we plan on seeing today?
36   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Mar 17, 8:53am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Can't even come close to the self entertainment that the Global Cooling, What is the Ideal Earth Temperature etc. threads brings

Yep. I'm entertaining and educational!
37   MisterLearnToCode   ignore (4)   2019 Mar 17, 10:55am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elgatouno says
Pat.net sockpuppet detected


Yes, I am Capt. Shuddup AND Hugolas Madirez as well.
38   Kakistocracy   ignore (6)   2019 Mar 17, 11:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Onvacation says
Yep. I'm entertaining and educational!


So is a social disease and u have a lot in common with those as well.

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