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Former FDA director says anti-vaxers will cause epidemics

Won't the only people getting sick be the unvaccinated? Are all the illegals that come in getting vaccinated?

Bacteria will evolve and kill everyone like planet of the apes. It is a possibility I suppose.

HeadSet says

Former FDA director says anti-vaxers will cause epidemics

Won't the only people getting sick be the unvaccinated? Are all the illegals that come in getting vaccinated?

HeadSet says

Won't the only people getting sick be the unvaccinated?

Even if it were only those who willfully refuse to get vaccinated who get sick, we still need to change laws/taxes/etc so that only those people are paying the price.

Also, some people are allergic to certain vaccinations and others are too young or too old. Some vaccinations are only partially effective or have partially worn off over time, etc. Given all these additional possibilities, it's fair to say that it's not just the people who willfully refuse to get vaccinated who will get sick.

In the long run population will be held in check by: starvation of resources, resource wars, ideology wars, or epidemic. Take your pick!

HeadSet says

Former FDA director says anti-vaxers will cause epidemics

Won't the only people getting sick be the unvaccinated?

That should make TovBot happy, as they will be the ones that will die off.

SunnyvaleCA says

Even if it were only those who willfully refuse to get vaccinated who get sick, we still need to change laws/taxes/etc so that only those people are paying the price.

The price of what? They will be paying for their medical care if they get sick.... so....

SunnyvaleCA says

Also, some people are allergic to certain vaccinations and others are too young or too old. Some vaccinations are only partially effective or have partially worn off over time, etc. Given all these additional possibilities, it's fair to say that it's not just the people who willfully refuse to get vaccinated who will get sick.

Your point, see it doesn't matter if other people get vaccinated or not, those people will still get sick if the disease is spreading. Why make people get vaccinated against their will, if these unvaccinated people you just mentioned are out wandering around anyway?

Not to mention the reliability of current vaccinations, like the flu. They miss every year, with it only being 30% - 50% effective.

People don't need to get vaccinated if they are happy living in internment isolation camps away from population centers, where they can just give the diseases to each other. I would also stipulate that they should only get the most nominal medical care when they are there if they are suffering from the epidemic conditions because of their willing zombie roles as vectors.

Many conditions spread rapidly amongst people who haven't had a chance yet to get the vaccines, like, school children contracting epidemic illnesses. Often, vaccines are only partially successful and don't prevent disease, but make it milder when it does occur.

The slight problem is that the people who believe they have a right to NOT get vaccinated also believe they have the right to mingle with everybody else and spread the diseases without fault, responsibility or liability.

Ceffer says

The slight problem is that the people who believe they have a right to NOT get vaccinated also believe they have the right to mingle with everybody else and spread the diseases without fault, responsibility or liability.

But once again, that doesn't matter. If you're worried about catching something, get vaccinated. Who cares who else is wandering around, you feel that you're protected and won't contract it.

Ceffer says

Many conditions spread rapidly amongst people who haven't had a chance yet to get the vaccines, like, school children contracting epidemic illnesses. Often, vaccines are only partially successful and don't prevent disease, but make it milder when it does occur.

Kids get vaccinated early, if you're really concerned, keep them at home. Why force someone else to do something against their will to benefit you. Sounds so Socialist, right?

Ceffer says

People don't need to get vaccinated if they are happy living in internment isolation camps away from population centers, where they can just give the diseases to each other.

That's the only thing that will matter, the unvaccinated will be infecting other unvacinnated. Why do you care? They will all die off, leaving all the food to you.

MrMagic says

Kids get vaccinated early, if you're really concerned, keep them at home. Why force someone else to do something against their will to benefit you. Sounds so Socialist, right?

So you're saying that kids shouldn't be born in a hospital in case something goes wrong at birth? After all, those kids aren't vaccinated yet (even though their parents will get the vaccinated as soon as they are old enough).

Let me read from a local hospital flyer for both if you.

To avoid exposure to (list of diseases) Avoid overseas travel, immigrants from overseas, and men who have sex with other men.

SunnyvaleCA says

MrMagic says

Kids get vaccinated early, if you're really concerned, keep them at home. Why force someone else to do something against their will to benefit you. Sounds so Socialist, right?

So you're saying that kids shouldn't be born in a hospital in case something goes wrong at birth? After all, those kids aren't vaccinated yet (even though their parents will get the vaccinated as soon as they are old enough).

MrMagic says

SunnyvaleCA says

Even if it were only those who willfully refuse to get vaccinated who get sick, we still need to change laws/taxes/etc so that only those people are paying the price.

The price of what? They will be paying for their medical care if they get sick.... so....

If a willfully unvaccinated person catches a major disease, the medical costs can very quickly reach six figures. As the bills mount, the parents declare bankruptcy and the taxpayers (or someone) foots the bill to make up for the derelict parents. So, what do you propose in this case: taxpayers foot the bill or child goes unhelped (child abuse).

What do health insurance companies think? Do they require vaccines to get insurance coverage? Do they just not cover payouts for costs associated with diseases for which their are "suggested" vaccines? Do they just jack up the rates for the rest of us to cover those cases (i.e.: push the costs on everyone else)?

FortWayneIndiana says

Let me read from a local hospital flyer for both if you.

To avoid exposure to (list of diseases) Avoid overseas travel, immigrants from overseas, and men who have sex with other men.

Ha ha! Which local hospital flyer is that. While many may think that, it's too politically incorrect to write.

But why is it that overseas travel and immigrants (from overseas) are to be avoided? Answer: because vaccinations are more rare in those situations! Which is exactly why we should be encouraging/requiring vaccinations here in our own country — so that our country is LESS like foreign countries.

By the way, immigrants are required by law to prove (or have when they get here) a whole list of vaccinations. From https://samowenkacey.weebly.com/ ... "The purpose of Ellis Island was to expose immigrants to rigorous medical exams... [.]"

SunnyvaleCA says

Also, some people are allergic to certain vaccinations and others are too young or too old. Some vaccinations are only partially effective or have partially worn off over time, etc.

Translation, getting vaccinated guarantees nothing. The same is true for not getting vaccinated.

FortWayneIndiana says

Let me read from a local hospital flyer for both if you.

To avoid exposure to (list of diseases) Avoid overseas travel, immigrants from overseas, and men who have sex with other men.

Where is this hospital ? If this was in Portland, Seattle, San Fran, etc. then the prankster who posted this flyer would be on every social justice warrior and AntiFa hit list.

This is the same FDA who overseas the fattest, most unhealthy population on earth right?