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Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades

By Patrick following x   2019 Mar 23, 9:37am 2,284 views   141 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


No matter what you think of Trump the person, he has so far led us to much greater peace and prosperity than we had before him.

* No new wars. In fact, Trump has been extricating our military from unwise incursions, in Syria, for example
* Record stock market highs
* Tax cuts for the large majority of US citizens
* Dramatic increase in US manufacturing jobs
* The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak ever
* Black unemployment at record low
* Overall unemployment lowest in nearly 50 years
* Repealed Obamacare mandate for the self-employed to pay private insurers whatever they demand
* Greatly improved relations between US and N. Korea, and N. and S. Korea too
* Confronted China and other countries about unfair trade deals which were sucking jobs out of the US
* ISIS-held territory wiped out
* Signed executive order requiring universities to protect free speech on campus or lose federal funding
* Signed order requiring hospitals to publish price lists

None of these are even debatable. They are objective facts.

http://www.magapill.com/

https://www.redstate.com/diary/davenj1/2019/03/21/trumps-greatest-accomplishment-date/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

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102   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 13, 2:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Remember - this is supposedly a wonderful and strong economy, and our deficit for 2018 was 1.2 trillion dollars.

This is an excellent point, we are living on borrowed money and t-RUMP is behaving as any good politician - kicking the can down the road. Nonsense started by GWBush who lowered taxes while starting a few wars, and continued by Obama who kept borrowing money even as economy recovered.

At some point economy has to come crashing down, and fix of borrowing more will not work same way it worked in 2009.
103   clambo   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 13, 3:24pm   ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

At least Trump is trying to stop the influx of illegal foreigners who will suck up $$ in the form of government benefits. They've bankrupted California already.

Not engaging in wars may save some money down the road.

I believe some things may happen in the area of budgets in the next election cycle.

Foreign poor and American poor are spending problems because of healthcare costs they don't pay a dime for.
104   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 13, 6:09pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

clambo says
Foreign poor and American poor are spending problems because of healthcare costs they don't pay a dime for.


How about the Pentagon ? Poor people still pay sales taxes...
105   clambo   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 13, 10:26pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The foreign poor are net takers of taxpayer money, the only taxes they actually pay would be sales taxes on their consumption and social security and medicare.

The Pentagon of course has too large a budget and I would start cutting it. A start would be a 5% cut in pensions to retired military lifers.

I would also cut the vast army of federal workers, and cut their pay and pensions.

At least Trump told the foreigners that we are not going to pay to defend them; NATO is going to have to pull its own weight. So will S. Korea.
107   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 14, 6:08pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

clambo says

The Pentagon of course has too large a budget and I would start cutting it. A start would be a 5% cut in pensions to retired military lifers.


They heard you. The new proposal will cut the pension by 10%. They will also be introducing a thrift plan.
108   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 14, 9:11pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says


Obama didn't create the economy. It was going downhill, anemically. The only credit he gets is for helping steer it out of depression early on via huge cash injection. After that he just went stupid with crony bailouts and idiotic regulations. Then he went all SJW on America. Obama kept on bringing more regulation, which caused businesses to hold back, he kept on promising more taxes which scared business. He lastly spent at least 2 years promoting transgenderism (for whatever fucking reason i don't know). Dumbest president in my lifetime, him and Bush Jr were both very dumb.

Trump on the other hand, is one of the smartest presidents we had. He actually made America better, much better.
109   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 15, 7:30am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Democrats are the most economically illiterate people ever. It’s why Trumps heading for a landslide victory in 2020.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/louiswoodhill/2012/08/01/obama-wins-the-gold-for-worst-economic-recovery-ever/amp/
110   zzyzzx   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 15, 8:53am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
Democrats are the most economically illiterate people ever.


111   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 15, 1:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

AOC's credit rating ? You really gonna go there ?

That ain't nothin. Republicans made a con artist/huckster/grifter who has declared bankruptcy multiple times in the past 20 years, POTUS.

And speaking of credit ratings, one of the stronger hypotheses about Trumps Russia connection is that Russia was the only place TRump could borrow money after defaulting on so much debt to America's biggest banks.
112   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 15, 2:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

stronger hypotheses about Trumps Russia connection

If Trump has a "Russia connection," then why is Trump going so much against Russian interests in Venezuela, Syria, and the North Sea gas pipeline? Trump not helping Russia much in Ukraine either, nor helping Russia by forcing NATO countries to boost military spending. That "Trump-Russia connection" is grabbing at straws. Guess you don't want see those ridiculous meme cartoons go to waste.
113   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 15, 5:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HeadSet says
That "Trump-Russia connection" is grabbing at straws


Trump not being favorable to Russian interests in international relations doesn't mean that he has no conflicts of interest with them. In fact, if conflicts of interest are there, it would be a good reason for Trump to go out of his way making sure that he does not appear to be favoring Russia.
114   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 15, 5:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades


Is this the polar opposite of being "woke."

IT gives new meaning to the phrase - "the American Dream."
115   HeadSet   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 15, 7:42pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
HeadSet says
That "Trump-Russia connection" is grabbing at straws


Trump not being favorable to Russian interests in international relations doesn't mean that he has no conflicts of interest with them. In fact, if conflicts of interest are there, it would be a good reason for Trump to go out of his way making sure that he does not appear to be favoring Russia.



So, these possible conflicts of interest cause Trump to go against Russia at every turn, just for the optics? Bad statesmanship on Putin's part.
116   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 15, 9:38pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Patrick says
Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades


Is this the polar opposite of being "woke."

IT gives new meaning to the phrase - "the American Dream."


Marcus, I'm talking objective facts.

Record low unemployment (especially black unemployment), record high stocks, just a booming economy all around.

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/thomas-jefferson-street/articles/2018-01-16/the-economy-is-booming-under-trump-but-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-that
117   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 15, 9:43pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Patrick, here is a useful resource

http://www.magapill.com/
118   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 15, 9:50pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Love it.
119   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 16, 6:16am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Just FYI Patrick, the msm has some people so delusional that despite what the numbers show and despite what we can empirically measure, they think the US economy is doing poorly. I have multiple co workers that will not acknowledge the unemployment rates, have no clue whatsoever about gdp growth, and when I explain to them rising wages, they think it’s due to minimum wage increases.

What’s worse is literally nothing can sway them. They actually won’t listen or read what the facts are. And that’s sad.
120   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 16, 6:46am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Marcus, I'm talking objective facts.


Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?

Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

I get it that republicans don't worry about deficits when republicans are President, but this is by far the most unprecedented aspect of our current economy.

I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?
121   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 16, 7:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?


I think it bothers most conservatives. And yet no matter who we vote for, or if the candidate wins, or really whoever gets in, we still get huge deficits. The Tea Party was our big push to try to get deficits under control, but it accomplished little besides deepening the divides in Congress. If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it! And it had better be good, because you know on this site it will be critiqued.
122   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 16, 10:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bernie is discussing Medicare for all, which is hardly a cost-cutting measure.
124   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 16, 6:06pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

More evidence of a great labor market:

Employers wink at drug tests that show marijuana usage.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article229311214.html
126   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 22, 11:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?


If you know how to read charts, the Trump bull market was a clear break in the sideways trend of Obama's final years.
127   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 22, 11:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it! And it had better be good, because you know on this site it will be critiqued.


Trump is following the best possible plan. 1st) cut taxes and let the economy roar 2) push to end wars 3) cut unnecessary waste.

Trump has a lot of work to do on part 3. Maybe stop trying to commit treason and let the man work?

Instead of calling him racist, remind him to decrease govt spending. OR just sit there and scream racist while trying to negate the democratic process all in the name of team game politics.
128   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 22, 9:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/nolte-trump-job-approval-jumps-to-53-seven-points-higher-than-obama/

President Trump’s job approval ratings currently sits at a robust 53 percent, a full seven points higher than Barack Obama at this same point his presidency.
Robust how?

His approval rating has been reported by all the other media at 37%, a 3% slide since the Mueller report.

Try a robust search engine.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-lowest-2019-following-mueller-report-release-1402137

Also you might see that the investigation netted a profit and cost nothing to perform. You don’t mind the 20 million spent on investigating Clinton do you? That was 4 years and nothing came of it at all.

53% wow.
130   Onvacation   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 24, 6:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
some people so delusional that despite what the numbers show and despite what we can empirically measure, they think the US economy is doing poorly.
marcus says
Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

Yep.
131   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?

Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

I get it that republicans don't worry about deficits when republicans are President, but this is by far the most unprecedented aspect of our current economy.

I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?

These all are valid points...deficit will not matter until it matters a lot and we are in a depression.
132   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it!

Balanced budget amendment...not that it will ever happen.
133   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Trump is following the best possible plan. 1st) cut taxes and let the economy roar 2) push to end wars 3) cut unnecessary waste.

He is raising military spending, which goes contrary to #2.
134   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 24, 8:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

“Rasmussen was one of the most accurate pollsters of the 2016 presidential election.“

Try using news sources that aren’t fake.
136   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 6:32pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I guess if you have a right wing media machine in place that's ready to blame the guy who's in office when the remifications of Trumps tax policies hit, then why not ? Let the good times roll !! Put it all on the credit card.

Patrick says
Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades


Quoting the guy who says "debt is slavery."

Might was well blame the guy who has to figure out how to deal with the consequences (sure to be a democrat).

I can hear them now: "aww you guys are always blaming the previous guy for your President's ineptness."
137   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 28, 6:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Quoting the guy who says "debt is slavery."


Debt is slavery for entities that don't control the printing presses of the world's reserve currency. We hit ~100% of GDP under Obama, not Trump.
138   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 7:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
We hit ~100% of GDP under Obama, not Trump


Yes. What was happening with our econoy in late 2008 through mid 2010 ?

Yeah yeah, I know. TYpical liberal blame the economy coming in, by citing obvious facts.

Running a trillion dollar deficit in 2009 or 2010 is a world of difference to running a trillion dollar deficit in 2018.
139   Booger   ignore (2)   2019 Apr 28, 7:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Might was well blame the guy who has to figure out how to deal with the consequences (sure to be a democrat).



140   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 8:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

SO we agree on something

Run the deficit up up up, and then put a socialist in there right before the whole thing breaks, and saqy "see, I told you socialism doesn't work."

OF course in this case socilism means things like publicly funded health care and education.
141   jazz_music   ignore (6)   2019 Apr 29, 12:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Run the deficit up up up, and then put a socialist in there right before the whole thing breaks, and saqy "see, I told you socialism doesn't work."

OF course in this case socilism means things like publicly funded health care and education.
How can you make a point ever in a cohort where they joyfully repeat lies with cartoons, back-of-classroom spid-wad comments and laugh at everything that's not from right wing shit fountains, talk radio or on Fox news?

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