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Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades

By Patrick following x   2019 Mar 23, 9:37am 3,688 views   158 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


No matter what you think of Trump the person, he has so far led us to much greater peace and prosperity than we had before him.

* No new wars. In fact, Trump has been extricating our military from unwise incursions, in Syria, for example
* Record stock market highs
* Tax cuts for the large majority of US citizens
* Dramatic increase in US manufacturing jobs
* The economy has achieved the longest positive job-growth streak ever
* Black unemployment at record low
* Overall unemployment lowest in nearly 50 years
* Repealed Obamacare mandate for the self-employed to pay private insurers whatever they demand
* Greatly improved relations between US and N. Korea, and N. and S. Korea too
* Confronted China and other countries about unfair trade deals which were sucking jobs out of the US
* ISIS-held territory wiped out
* Signed executive order requiring universities to protect free speech on campus or lose federal funding
* Signed order requiring hospitals to publish price lists

None of these are even debatable. They are objective facts.

http://www.magapill.com/

https://www.redstate.com/diary/davenj1/2019/03/21/trumps-greatest-accomplishment-date/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

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119   CovfefeButDeadly   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 16, 6:16am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Just FYI Patrick, the msm has some people so delusional that despite what the numbers show and despite what we can empirically measure, they think the US economy is doing poorly. I have multiple co workers that will not acknowledge the unemployment rates, have no clue whatsoever about gdp growth, and when I explain to them rising wages, they think it’s due to minimum wage increases.

What’s worse is literally nothing can sway them. They actually won’t listen or read what the facts are. And that’s sad.
120   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 16, 6:46am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Marcus, I'm talking objective facts.


Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?

Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

I get it that republicans don't worry about deficits when republicans are President, but this is by far the most unprecedented aspect of our current economy.

I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?
121   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 16, 7:10am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?


I think it bothers most conservatives. And yet no matter who we vote for, or if the candidate wins, or really whoever gets in, we still get huge deficits. The Tea Party was our big push to try to get deficits under control, but it accomplished little besides deepening the divides in Congress. If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it! And it had better be good, because you know on this site it will be critiqued.
122   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 16, 10:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bernie is discussing Medicare for all, which is hardly a cost-cutting measure.
124   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 16, 6:06pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

More evidence of a great labor market:

Employers wink at drug tests that show marijuana usage.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/business/article229311214.html
126   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 22, 11:47am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?


If you know how to read charts, the Trump bull market was a clear break in the sideways trend of Obama's final years.
127   CBOEtrader   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 22, 11:52am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it! And it had better be good, because you know on this site it will be critiqued.


Trump is following the best possible plan. 1st) cut taxes and let the economy roar 2) push to end wars 3) cut unnecessary waste.

Trump has a lot of work to do on part 3. Maybe stop trying to commit treason and let the man work?

Instead of calling him racist, remind him to decrease govt spending. OR just sit there and scream racist while trying to negate the democratic process all in the name of team game politics.
128   jazz_music   ignore (11)   2019 Apr 22, 9:16pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

zzyzzx says
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/nolte-trump-job-approval-jumps-to-53-seven-points-higher-than-obama/

President Trump’s job approval ratings currently sits at a robust 53 percent, a full seven points higher than Barack Obama at this same point his presidency.
Robust how?

His approval rating has been reported by all the other media at 37%, a 3% slide since the Mueller report.

Try a robust search engine.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-lowest-2019-following-mueller-report-release-1402137

Also you might see that the investigation netted a profit and cost nothing to perform. You don’t mind the 20 million spent on investigating Clinton do you? That was 4 years and nothing came of it at all.

53% wow.
130   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 24, 6:15am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CovfefeButDeadly says
some people so delusional that despite what the numbers show and despite what we can empirically measure, they think the US economy is doing poorly.
marcus says
Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

Yep.
131   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:17am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Why is it that when you look at all the graphs it just looks like a continuation of all the 6 year trends that Obama established ?

Also, if the economy is "booming" why is the 2018 deficit is barely less than deficits when the recession was at it's worst ?

I get it that republicans don't worry about deficits when republicans are President, but this is by far the most unprecedented aspect of our current economy.

I wonder why the scariest objective fact of them all doesn't bother you at all ?

These all are valid points...deficit will not matter until it matters a lot and we are in a depression.
132   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:19am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
If you have a fucking solution, I’d like to hear it!

Balanced budget amendment...not that it will ever happen.
133   d6rB   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 24, 8:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

CBOEtrader says
Trump is following the best possible plan. 1st) cut taxes and let the economy roar 2) push to end wars 3) cut unnecessary waste.

He is raising military spending, which goes contrary to #2.
134   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 24, 8:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

“Rasmussen was one of the most accurate pollsters of the 2016 presidential election.“

Try using news sources that aren’t fake.
136   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 6:32pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

I guess if you have a right wing media machine in place that's ready to blame the guy who's in office when the remifications of Trumps tax policies hit, then why not ? Let the good times roll !! Put it all on the credit card.

Patrick says
Trump has brought us much greater peace and prosperity than any other president in decades


Quoting the guy who says "debt is slavery."

Might was well blame the guy who has to figure out how to deal with the consequences (sure to be a democrat).

I can hear them now: "aww you guys are always blaming the previous guy for your President's ineptness."
137   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 28, 6:36pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Quoting the guy who says "debt is slavery."


Debt is slavery for entities that don't control the printing presses of the world's reserve currency. We hit ~100% of GDP under Obama, not Trump.
138   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 7:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
We hit ~100% of GDP under Obama, not Trump


Yes. What was happening with our econoy in late 2008 through mid 2010 ?

Yeah yeah, I know. TYpical liberal blame the economy coming in, by citing obvious facts.

Running a trillion dollar deficit in 2009 or 2010 is a world of difference to running a trillion dollar deficit in 2018.
139   Booger   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 28, 7:59pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Might was well blame the guy who has to figure out how to deal with the consequences (sure to be a democrat).



140   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 Apr 28, 8:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

SO we agree on something

Run the deficit up up up, and then put a socialist in there right before the whole thing breaks, and saqy "see, I told you socialism doesn't work."

OF course in this case socilism means things like publicly funded health care and education.
141   jazz_music   ignore (11)   2019 Apr 29, 12:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Run the deficit up up up, and then put a socialist in there right before the whole thing breaks, and saqy "see, I told you socialism doesn't work."

OF course in this case socilism means things like publicly funded health care and education.
How can you make a point ever in a cohort where they joyfully repeat lies with cartoons, back-of-classroom spid-wad comments and laugh at everything that's not from right wing shit fountains, talk radio or on Fox news?
143   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 May 26, 5:18pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Run the deficit up up up, and then put a socialist in there right before the whole thing breaks, and saqy "see, I told you socialism doesn't work."


There was no talk of deficits when Obama introduced Socialized Private Mandatory Health Insurance, or Shovel-ready programs that weren't shovel ready.

The Media began to talk of Deficits literally the day Trump won the Presidency,
144   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 May 27, 9:05am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
There was no talk of deficits when Obama introduced Socialized Private Mandatory Health Insurance, or Shovel-ready programs that weren't shovel ready.


Total BS. THere was plenty of talk about deficits. The ddults were in charge back then. Obama would have done more in the way of stimulus but for concern about deficits.

To me the economics discussion back then felt nonpartisan compared to now. We were in the midst of what people thought might be great depression 2.0. It was discussed plenty, becasue of the deficit hawks.

The amazing thing is those deficit hawks were nowhere to be found when Trump wanted to blow up the deficit with tax gifts to the wealthy and corporations. And yes, of course many democrats point out the hypocrisy, and that this is the cost of our current economy.

To say the media talks about it a lot is a joke. It's not talked about nearly to the extent it should be.
145   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 May 27, 9:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
The ddults were in charge back then.

It's spelled dolts and yes they were.
146   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 May 27, 10:50am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

So predictable. Perhaps time for another Michelle is a dude meme ? Or maybe something stupid that AOC didn't even say ?
148   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 May 27, 4:24pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
Total BS. THere was plenty of talk about deficits. The ddults were in charge back then. Obama would have done more in the way of stimulus but for concern about deficits.


Nope.

"Now and Later" - NYT Chief Economy OpEd Writer, Paul Krugman, urging big deficit spending and screaming at Republicans to get out of the way in 2010
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/21/opinion/21krugman.html

"Deficits Matter Again" - NYT Chief Economy OpEd Writer, Paul Krugman, just after Trump wins.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/09/opinion/deficits-matter-again.html

Yet before Trump won, in May of 2016, when it was "Inevitable" that Hillary would win, he wrote that Deficits were unimportant and Public Spending should not only continue but expand:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/opinion/remembrance-of-booms-past.html

And there's plenty more examples here:
https://lara-murphy.com/krugmans-case-deficits-flip-flopped-eight-weeks/

Krugman and the Demo Talking heads are 110% Deficit Doves when the Dems are in Power. But scream bloody murder when Republicans plot a tax cut, citing Deficits.
149   marcus   ignore (8)   2019 May 27, 5:51pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

HonkpilledMaster says
Krugman and the Demo Talking heads are 110% Deficit Doves when the Dems are in Power


Funny, I didn't think it was democrats.

I thought it was just smart people that understood the difference between deficit spending when in recession/depression (when it's actually 100% unfuckingavoidable becasue govt spending is already set and revenues are dropping hard), versus tax cut induced deficit spending when the economy is supposedly strong for reasons other than the tax cuts.
150   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 May 27, 7:29pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
I thought it was just smart people that understood the difference between deficit spending when in recession/depression (when it's actually 100% unfuckingavoidable becasue govt spending is already set and revenues are dropping hard), versus tax cut induced deficit spending when the economy is supposedly strong for reasons other than the tax cuts.



If you read my post, I don't understand how you missed Krugman in mid 2016, when Hillary was considered by almost every talking head to be the inevitable occupant of the White House, preparing the ground for her Presidency by insisting the Deficits continue.

He made repeated remarks in 2016 to this effect.

Only as 2017 began, days before Trump entered the White House, did he start opining about Budget Deficits and why we can't afford a tax cut.

Links in my post above.
151   Misc   ignore (0)   2019 May 27, 10:48pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes, we could have used more deficit spending under Obama to get the economy back up and people working again. I feel the same applies today. I don't think the economy is particularly strong, and the median household's net wealth is far below where it stood in 2007. I'm all for infrastructure spending on the credit card. The bond market seems to be clamoring for more federal spending with long term rates dropping so much recently.
152   Onvacation   ignore (4)   2019 May 28, 7:27am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says
unfuckingavoidable becasue

There is help for that.
153   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch   ignore (38)   2019 May 28, 10:24am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FUCKING! COMMIE! CUNTS!

Spending? Regulation? CRIMES! AGAINST! FREEDOM!

GM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD TO THE FUCKING CHINESE FOR CENTS ON THE DOLLAR! THE FUCKING PRC WOULD HAVE ROLLED THE FUCKING TANKS AND THE FUCKING UNIONS WOULD BE FUCKING RED RUNNY FUCKING PASTE, EXACTLY AS THE FUCKING FOUNDING FUCKING FATHERS COMMANDED!

AMERICA! WON'T BE FREE UNTIL THE LAST BANK EXAMINER IS SHOT IN THE FACE AND GIVEN TO ANTHONY MOZILO AND CHARLES KEATING TO FUCK THE EXIT WOUNDS, EXACTLY AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS COMMANDED.

DIE! COMMIE! CUNTS!, FUCKING! DIE!
155   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Jun 5, 5:14pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Best inauguration speech ever!!!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
FUCKING! COMMIE! CUNTS!

Spending? Regulation? CRIMES! AGAINST! FREEDOM!

GM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SOLD TO THE FUCKING CHINESE FOR CENTS ON THE DOLLAR! THE FUCKING PRC WOULD HAVE ROLLED THE FUCKING TANKS AND THE FUCKING UNIONS WOULD BE FUCKING RED RUNNY FUCKING PASTE, EXACTLY AS THE FUCKING FOUNDING FUCKING FATHERS COMMANDED!

AMERICA! WON'T BE FREE UNTIL THE LAST BANK EXAMINER IS SHOT IN THE FACE AND GIVEN TO ANTHONY MOZILO AND CHARLES KEATING TO FUCK THE EXIT WOUNDS, EXACTLY AS THE FOUNDING FATHERS COMMANDED.

DIE! COMMIE! CUNTS!, FUCKING! DIE!
156   TrumpingTits   ignore (1)   2019 Jun 5, 8:08pm   ↑ like (4)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Mexico just caved to Trump. Sent the army to their southern border, blocked a caravan from entering and arrested the ringleaders (Soros whores)!

http://patrick.net/post/1324942/2019-06-06-it-s-happening-border-activists-arrested-by-mexico-caravan-turned-back-by-armed-mexican-army

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