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Patrick
2019 Mar 24, 5:00pm
It does seem justified to investigate the abuse of political office and of the FBI by people who were intent on undermining the result of a legitimate election.
Patrick
2019 Mar 24, 5:00pm
President Trump and his legal team declared total victory Sunday following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s key findings -- including no evidence of collusion with Russia during the 2016 campaign -- but sought to turn the tables by renewing calls to investigate the investigators.
Trump himself slammed the probe as an “illegal takedown,” as he called Mueller’s report a “complete exoneration” and said it was a “shame” his presidency had to deal with the investigation for two years.
“Hopefully somebody is going to look at the other side,” Trump said. “This was an illegal takedown that failed and hopefully somebody is going to be looking at the other side.”
In case it wasn't clear what he meant, Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani told Fox News an investigation should be launched into how the investigation began.
“He was being investigated for a crime that never happened,” Giuliani said. “There was never any collusion.”
It does seem justified to investigate the abuse of political office and of the FBI by people who were intent on undermining the result of a legitimate election.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 24, 5:11pm
Tenpoundbass
2019 Mar 24, 5:11pm
He should get an Inauguration do over. One that instructs the Federal Cops working Security, to Shoot with beanbags any Violent Antifa on Site or anyone covering their face and violently assaulting people. We should do it on July 4th while he does that Military Parade he was talking about.
Call it taking back our country day.
Call it taking back our country day.
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Goran_K
2019 Mar 24, 5:44pm
Goran_K
2019 Mar 24, 5:44pm
Patrick says
It’s sad isn’t it?
Seeing what I would assume are normally intelligent people not letting go of a fantasy all in the name of partisanship.
Wow, it just never ends.
It's religion.
It’s sad isn’t it?
Seeing what I would assume are normally intelligent people not letting go of a fantasy all in the name of partisanship.
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Mar 24, 5:44pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2019 Mar 24, 5:44pm
Tim now think about what you just said there. I’ll even quote it for you.
Tim Aurora says
Tim Aurora says
Just because they did not find the proof, does not mean the Trump team did not collude
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Patrick
2019 Mar 24, 5:52pm
Patrick
2019 Mar 24, 5:52pm
And that is after more than two years of perhaps the most intense and fanatical investigation in history.
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GNL
2019 Mar 24, 6:15pm
GNL
2019 Mar 24, 6:15pm
Patrick says
President Trump and his legal team declared total victory Sunday following the release of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s key findings -- including no evidence of collusion with Russia during the 2016 campaign -- but sought to turn the tables by renewing calls to investigate the investigators.
Trump himself slammed the probe as an “illegal takedown,” as he called Mueller’s report a “complete exoneration” and said it was a “shame” his presidency had to deal with the investigation for two years.
“Hopefully somebody is going to look at the other side,” Trump said. “This was an illegal takedown that failed and hopefully somebody is going to be looking at the other side.”
In case it wasn't clear what he meant, Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani told Fox News an investigation should be launched into how the investigation began.
“He was being investigated for a crime that never happened,” Giuliani said. “There was never any collusion.”
Abso-fucking-lutely
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Booger
2019 Mar 24, 6:28pm
Booger
2019 Mar 24, 6:28pm
Tim Aurora says
Have you seen the prima facia , 101 contacts with Russians. Just because they did not find the proof, does not mean the Trump team did not collude. Putin has Trump by his balls.
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AD
2019 Mar 24, 9:14pm
AD
2019 Mar 24, 9:14pm
Patrick says
Yes, the Democrat Party has become like Scientology or a cult.
Notice how Obama is hailed almost as a cult figure. Notice how AntiFa is the violent enforcer of the cult, and that race-based social justice is one of their dogmas.
Wow, it just never ends.
It's religion.
Yes, the Democrat Party has become like Scientology or a cult.
Notice how Obama is hailed almost as a cult figure. Notice how AntiFa is the violent enforcer of the cult, and that race-based social justice is one of their dogmas.
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AD
2019 Mar 24, 9:35pm
AD
2019 Mar 24, 9:35pm
Soon.
" Attorney General Jeff Session tasked Huber with the job late last year, and the attorney has reportedly been conducting a quiet investigation into the Obama-era surveillance abuses ever since. "What we know is that Bruce Ohr ... was not interviewed by Mr. Huber out in Utah, who allegedly is investigating all of the FISA abuse and the unmaskings," prominent Washington, D.C. attorney Joe diGenova revealed on Hannity Tuesday night. "
" Attorney General Jeff Session tasked Huber with the job late last year, and the attorney has reportedly been conducting a quiet investigation into the Obama-era surveillance abuses ever since. "What we know is that Bruce Ohr ... was not interviewed by Mr. Huber out in Utah, who allegedly is investigating all of the FISA abuse and the unmaskings," prominent Washington, D.C. attorney Joe diGenova revealed on Hannity Tuesday night. "
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 24, 11:18pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 24, 11:18pm
Goran_K says
It's frightening. This is a panic among those who consider themselves highly educated professionals.
Like reading about those villages in India where all the people think they've lost their penis, even when they look right at it.
Seeing what I would assume are normally intelligent people not letting go of a fantasy all in the name of partisanship.Patrick says
It's religion.
It's frightening. This is a panic among those who consider themselves highly educated professionals.
Like reading about those villages in India where all the people think they've lost their penis, even when they look right at it.
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Booger
2019 Mar 25, 5:19am
Booger
2019 Mar 25, 5:19am
Tim Aurora says
Hillary is being investigated???
I mean she should be, but isn't.
Are you talking about Hillary investigation !!
Hillary is being investigated???
I mean she should be, but isn't.
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anonymous
2019 Mar 25, 5:43am
Goran_K says
Seeing what I would assume are normally intelligent people not letting go of a fantasy all in the name of partisanship.
Patrick says
It's religion.
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Just like the "wall", must have the wall...couldn't get it funded when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months despite being a "national emergency" so lets blame the Democrats...
Just like "repeal and replace"...couldn't get it repealed and or replaced when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months so lets blame the Democrats...
Just like the deficits, which just hit a new high - again - raised them every chance we can but they are only a problem when a Democrat is in the White House
Just so I'm clear, when Bush went in, it was so we didn't fight the war on the home front.
When Obama downsized the deployment it was reckless dangerous and likely to bring on the next 9/11.
When Trump does it, it's good.
Okay, just making sure it all makes such sense now - the religion of GOP partisanship and hypocrisy...and remember - BENGHAZI !
Seeing what I would assume are normally intelligent people not letting go of a fantasy all in the name of partisanship.
Patrick says
It's religion.
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Just like the "wall", must have the wall...couldn't get it funded when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months despite being a "national emergency" so lets blame the Democrats...
Just like "repeal and replace"...couldn't get it repealed and or replaced when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months so lets blame the Democrats...
Just like the deficits, which just hit a new high - again - raised them every chance we can but they are only a problem when a Democrat is in the White House
Just so I'm clear, when Bush went in, it was so we didn't fight the war on the home front.
When Obama downsized the deployment it was reckless dangerous and likely to bring on the next 9/11.
When Trump does it, it's good.
Okay, just making sure it all makes such sense now - the religion of GOP partisanship and hypocrisy...and remember - BENGHAZI !
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anonymous
2019 Mar 25, 5:48am
Someone is awful fast with that dislike button - never got the comment finished and already had a dislike.
Getting a bit like a Sensapous just like Potus are we now ?
Getting a bit like a Sensapous just like Potus are we now ?
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Shaman
2019 Mar 25, 6:26am
Shaman
2019 Mar 25, 6:26am
Kakistocracy says
@kakistocracy
You keep making the same flawed arguments. I thought I would help you understand why you fail with this small definition of what you’re doing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/;[1] Latin for "you also"), or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a fallacy that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).
Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:[2]
Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore, X is false.
An example would be
Peter: "Bill is guilty of defrauding the government out of tax dollars."
Bill: "How can you say that when you yourself have 20 outstanding parking tickets?"
It is a fallacy because the moral character or actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]
Just like the "wall", must have the wall...couldn't get it funded when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months despite being a "national emergency" so lets blame the Democrats...
Just like "repeal and replace"...couldn't get it repealed and or replaced when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months so lets blame the Democrats...
@kakistocracy
You keep making the same flawed arguments. I thought I would help you understand why you fail with this small definition of what you’re doing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Tu quoque (/tjuːˈkwoʊkwi, tuːˈkwoʊkweɪ/;[1] Latin for "you also"), or the appeal to hypocrisy, is a fallacy that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion(s).
Tu quoque "argument" follows the pattern:[2]
Person A makes claim X.
Person B asserts that A's actions or past claims are inconsistent with the truth of claim X.
Therefore, X is false.
An example would be
Peter: "Bill is guilty of defrauding the government out of tax dollars."
Bill: "How can you say that when you yourself have 20 outstanding parking tickets?"
It is a fallacy because the moral character or actions of the opponent are generally irrelevant to the logic of the argument.[3] It is often used as a red herring tactic and is a special case of the ad hominem fallacy, which is a category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of facts about the person presenting or supporting the claim or argument.[4]
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Patrick
2019 Mar 25, 7:29am
Patrick
2019 Mar 25, 7:29am
Tim Aurora says
No, I'm obviously not talking about any Hillary investigation.
Hillary was given a pass because she is a globalist liberal.
Trump was investigated a hundred times more intensely by people who want to throw out the result of the last election just because it didn't go their way.
Patrick saysAnd that is after more than two years of perhaps the most intense and fanatical investigation in history.
Are you talking about Hillary investigation !!
No, I'm obviously not talking about any Hillary investigation.
Hillary was given a pass because she is a globalist liberal.
Trump was investigated a hundred times more intensely by people who want to throw out the result of the last election just because it didn't go their way.
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porkchopXpress
2019 Mar 25, 7:56am
porkchopXpress
2019 Mar 25, 7:56am
Tim Aurora says
Just because they did not find the proof, does not mean the Trump team did not collude. Putin has Trump by his balls.Guilty until proven innocent. God bless America.
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anonymous
2019 Mar 25, 8:19am
Quigley says
You keep making the same flawed counter arguments. I thought I would help you understand why you fail with this small definition of what you’re doing.
To wit: Blaming the democrats for not funding the wall...
President Trump insisted at a Cabinet meeting on that Democrats have 'their eye on 2020' and that's why they're refusing to approve border wall funding.
Trump said in his first convening of his Cabinet of 2019 that the border is 'like a sieve' and the 'United States needs a physical barrier' to prevent as illegal immigrants from coming in.
'We are in a shutdown, because Democrats refuse to fund border security,' he contended.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6548465/Trump-says-Democrats-wont-fund-border-wall-eye-2020.html
The above was dated January 2nd, 2019 while the GOP still have total control of everything. Potus has only ramped up the rhetoric and blame game on the Democrats since then.
When is the man going to take responsibility for something that is not going well, didn't happen etc. ?
When will the buck finally stop at the desk in the oval office ?
@kakistocracy
You keep making the same flawed arguments. I thought I would help you understand why you fail with this small definition of what you’re doing.
You keep making the same flawed counter arguments. I thought I would help you understand why you fail with this small definition of what you’re doing.
To wit: Blaming the democrats for not funding the wall...
President Trump insisted at a Cabinet meeting on that Democrats have 'their eye on 2020' and that's why they're refusing to approve border wall funding.
Trump said in his first convening of his Cabinet of 2019 that the border is 'like a sieve' and the 'United States needs a physical barrier' to prevent as illegal immigrants from coming in.
'We are in a shutdown, because Democrats refuse to fund border security,' he contended.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6548465/Trump-says-Democrats-wont-fund-border-wall-eye-2020.html
The above was dated January 2nd, 2019 while the GOP still have total control of everything. Potus has only ramped up the rhetoric and blame game on the Democrats since then.
When is the man going to take responsibility for something that is not going well, didn't happen etc. ?
When will the buck finally stop at the desk in the oval office ?
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just_passing_through
2019 Mar 25, 8:46am
just_passing_through
2019 Mar 25, 8:46am
Oh there's evidence of his guilt alright! Squirreled away in a coconut on Guam!
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Bd6r
2019 Mar 25, 8:53am
Bd6r
2019 Mar 25, 8:53am
Kakistocracy says
that is actually a very valid point which I have not heard anyone on Right address in a logical way.
couldn't get it repealed and or replaced when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months
that is actually a very valid point which I have not heard anyone on Right address in a logical way.
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Goran_K
2019 Mar 25, 9:05am
Goran_K
2019 Mar 25, 9:05am
Kakistocracy says
The Wall is getting built, it will be a beautiful wall, it will keep bad people out.
RussiaGate was just a fantasy for losers who couldn't take that they got beat down in 2016.
Just like the "wall", must have the wall.
The Wall is getting built, it will be a beautiful wall, it will keep bad people out.
RussiaGate was just a fantasy for losers who couldn't take that they got beat down in 2016.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 25, 10:27am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 25, 10:27am
Tim Aurora says
All Butthurt Fishing Expedition Prosecutors whinge the same thing.
"Just because we can't find a teapot orbiting between the Earth and the Moon..."
Have you seen the prima facia , 101 contacts with Russians. Just because they did not find the proof, does not mean the Trump team did not collude. Putin has Trump by his balls.
All Butthurt Fishing Expedition Prosecutors whinge the same thing.
"Just because we can't find a teapot orbiting between the Earth and the Moon..."
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 27, 8:28pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 27, 8:28pm
You know what the best thing about doing your investigations in Utah is?
The Media, DC Elite, etc. can't stand leaving the Capitol area.
Not a lot of leaks happen.
The Media, DC Elite, etc. can't stand leaving the Capitol area.
Not a lot of leaks happen.
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Ceffer
2019 Mar 27, 9:24pm
Ceffer
2019 Mar 27, 9:24pm
MAGA_BOMBER says
Yes, this is what CNN and MSNBC say, and they are the epitome of news honor.
That's why Fox viewers are happy but know less than if they didn't watch any news at all.
Yes, this is what CNN and MSNBC say, and they are the epitome of news honor.
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Y
2019 Mar 27, 9:36pm
Y
2019 Mar 27, 9:36pm
Better the leggy blondes then the cnn cock starved news anchors...
MAGA_BOMBER says
MAGA_BOMBER says
Therefore you must enjoy Fox and those leggy blondes in their glass desks pretty much. woo woo! hubba hubba
BOOM!
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anonymous
2019 Mar 28, 10:37am
d6rB says
You won't - ever. There is no logical way to defend the basic fact the GOP can not govern.
They do their usual tax cut for the ones who least need it, then complain about Gays, Abortion, and Illegals (as long as they are not the illegals employed by big party donors), whine about Hillary, and now they have a new fixation - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Never seen so many angry old white guys and angry middle aged white guys so afraid of a 29 year old woman in my entire life.
Trump has the attention span of a sand flea or fruit fly and so does his base.
Two or three days tops and on to a new distraction or the next shiny object.
Forget what was said or promised just a few days before, if someone remembers - call if fake news, the person an unpatriotic communist - try to stay focused for 2 or 3 more days.
Hysterically scream MAGA and Winning while softly chanting the TDS is strong, the TDS is strong.
Kakistocracy sayscouldn't get it repealed and or replaced when the GOP had control of everything for 24 months
that is actually a very valid point which I have not heard anyone on Right address in a logical way.
You won't - ever. There is no logical way to defend the basic fact the GOP can not govern.
They do their usual tax cut for the ones who least need it, then complain about Gays, Abortion, and Illegals (as long as they are not the illegals employed by big party donors), whine about Hillary, and now they have a new fixation - Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Never seen so many angry old white guys and angry middle aged white guys so afraid of a 29 year old woman in my entire life.
Trump has the attention span of a sand flea or fruit fly and so does his base.
Two or three days tops and on to a new distraction or the next shiny object.
Forget what was said or promised just a few days before, if someone remembers - call if fake news, the person an unpatriotic communist - try to stay focused for 2 or 3 more days.
Hysterically scream MAGA and Winning while softly chanting the TDS is strong, the TDS is strong.
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Bd6r
2019 Mar 28, 11:15am
Bd6r
2019 Mar 28, 11:15am
Kakistocracy says
I am pretty annoyed by her - a lot of stuff she says is retarded and without any connection to existing realities. She is a privileged little bitch who has not really worked a day of her life, has lived in relative affluency, and now will suddenly change the world by abolishing thermodynamics in her Green Deal? If Green Deal would go through, people who are really poor would starve by millions.
I think complaints about AOC are fairly valid. Also, singling out "fucking white males" is a) wrong, and b) counterproductive. Yesterday on local TV we had working class white females saying that "Trump is the best thing that happened to America lately", and my Filipino neighbor sounds like Mr. Magic here, only with undertone of religious fanaticism.
Kakistocracy says
I think this is true, but it is also true that mirror image from Left is just as uncritical in their beliefs.
Never seen so many angry old white guys and angry middle aged white guys so afraid of a 29 year old woman in my entire life.
I am pretty annoyed by her - a lot of stuff she says is retarded and without any connection to existing realities. She is a privileged little bitch who has not really worked a day of her life, has lived in relative affluency, and now will suddenly change the world by abolishing thermodynamics in her Green Deal? If Green Deal would go through, people who are really poor would starve by millions.
I think complaints about AOC are fairly valid. Also, singling out "fucking white males" is a) wrong, and b) counterproductive. Yesterday on local TV we had working class white females saying that "Trump is the best thing that happened to America lately", and my Filipino neighbor sounds like Mr. Magic here, only with undertone of religious fanaticism.
Kakistocracy says
Hysterically scream MAGA and Winning while softly chanting the TDS is strong, the TDS is strong.
I think this is true, but it is also true that mirror image from Left is just as uncritical in their beliefs.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 28, 11:22am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Mar 28, 11:22am
Kakistocracy says
I'm more interested in the inability to drop a nothingburger that was an evidence-free nothingburger for more than 2 years.
It's pretty clear that Mueller found nothing. And definitely not collusion.
Two or three days tops and on to a new distraction or the next shiny object.
I'm more interested in the inability to drop a nothingburger that was an evidence-free nothingburger for more than 2 years.
It's pretty clear that Mueller found nothing. And definitely not collusion.
Now that’s funny.