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Grisly details emerge about the deaths of a lesbian couple and their 6 adopted kids whose SUV plunged off a California cliff

By Patrick following x   2019 Apr 5, 8:49pm 2,357 views   115 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6883469/Details-shared-family-killed-California-cliff-plunge.html

Authorities have shared grisly details of the deaths of a family whose SUV plunged off a cliff in California, including how their bodies were retrieved and how the children had drugs in their system.

The details were revealed at a coroner's inquest on Wednesday in a bid to determine whether the March 2018 deaths of Jen and Sarah Hart and their six adopted children were accidental, a murder-suicide or undetermined.

The crash happened just days after authorities in Washington state, where the family moved in 2017 from Oregon, opened an investigation following allegations the children were being neglected.

A neighbor of the Harts in Woodland, Washington, had filed a complaint with the state, saying the children were apparently being deprived of food as punishment.

No one answered when social workers checking on the report went to the family's home near Portland, Oregon, on March 23.

Three days later, their SUV was found partially submerged on the ocean below a rugged cliff.

Google searches were read by California Highway Patrol Officer Jay Slates during the Mendocino County coroner’s inquest presented by the Sheriff’s Office Thursday.

'How long does it take to die from hypothermia in water while drowning in a car?', Sarah also searched, according to Slates’ testimony.

Sarah began searching at 12.30 am on March 24 as she and her family neared the Washington-Oregon border.

She would continue to conduct Google searches along these lines until 6:30 p.m. that night.

The bodies of Jen and Sarah were inside the SUV when it was discovered but one of the women fell out as the vehicle was being towed up the cliff off the coast of Mendocino County.

Sheriff Deputy Robert Julian testified on Wednesday that he was able to identify Sarah Hart through a Minnesota driver's license found near the car.

'I wasn't able to identify Jennifer Hart due to her fall,' Julian said.


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77   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes paddock. Las Vegas shooter

His choice of targets also speaks against a white supremacist motive
78   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
We as a country and people have decided for now to accept the daily killings from one end of the country to the other as "normal" and a day or two without one is the "abnormal" day.

Something really really wrong with that picture.


MLTC - your thoughts ?
79   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says

His choice of targets also speaks against a white supremacist motive


Is there a preferred target ?
80   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Back to the thread - the state failed the children, their sexuality is neither here nor there. One state/city after another has a dismal record of failures with the Child Protective Services agencies.

The bottom line here is the "system" is not protecting those unable to protect themselves, but as a society we try to avoid dealing with that truth
because is shows something ugly and unflattering about ourselves in what we are willing to accept as an acceptable standard of performance on the part of these agencies..
81   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 6, 5:28pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Kaki got triggered heavily here. Always thought he was a Russian bot, now I just think he’s Dan.

Dan used to get triggered into sjw rage when anyone said anything about gays or feminists.
82   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 6, 5:29pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Homos should not ever be near children. That’s the moral of the story.

Ben Shapiro has a good talk on what homos do to children to gender confuse them. There lots of pedos there.
83   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 5:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
MLTC - your thoughts ?


Nobody dares go after the greater and less font of misery:

1. Black Women's hypergamy for Violent Criminals subsidized by government support
2. Lack of forcible mental hospitalization or secure facilities.
84   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 6, 7:40pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
MisterLearnToCode says
Neither parkland nor las Vegas shooters were so called white supremacists


And we know this beyond all shadow of a doubt because ?

Got hand it to the country, NRA and similar...white supremacists and nationalists are nothing to be worried about. It's those damn blacks - and brown people plus those looney tunes who face Mecca but not anyone who believes in Jebus


You’re the one making the claim. Can you prove Parkland and Las Vegas shooters were white supremacists?

Las Vegas shooters girlfriend was an immigrant who loved Obama. Doesn’t sound very “white nationalist” to me.
85   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 8:26pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Las Vegas shooters girlfriend was an immigrant who loved Obama. Doesn’t sound very “white nationalist” to me.



That and he shot up a Country/Western Music Festival...

But you know Goran, the whole "Russell's Teapot" of proving a negative seems to be a big Lefty thing ever since Mueller didn't come up with Jack Shit.
86   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 6, 9:34pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Russell's Teapot


Thanks, didn't know about Russell's Teapot:

Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot
87   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 6, 9:53pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
MisterLearnToCode says

His choice of targets also speaks against a white supremacist motive


Is there a preferred target ?


I don’t know, do white supremacist commit shootings where the majority of the targets are going to be white? Sounds kind of counter productive to the ideology.
89   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
Homos should not ever be near children. That’s the moral of the story.


That would actually be Catholic Priests, Dennis Hastert and other fine upstanding types. Preach one thing and do another
90   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
But you know Goran, the whole "Russell's Teapot" of proving a negative seems to be a big Lefty thing ever since Mueller didn't come up with Jack Shit.


Only based on a four page summary from the AG which no one knows is true or not.

Simply one opinion and take on the 400 some pages of which Potus could not be bothered to read yet but it's nice to know he has the right to read it in it's entirety or have Pence or Baron read it to him before he goes to sleep.

Hang up that Mission Accomplished Banner again
91   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:24am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
World hates fags, because they destroy society.


Isn't that the job of our Department of Defense in support of Regime Change and Big Oil ?
92   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I see an alpha male moderator flagged a comment as "anti-forum" because it contained some uncomfortable truths again....funny
93   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:28am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Patrick - read this and learn something lest I get accused of making shit up

Both male and female dogs mount other dogs, people, and objects. Most people don’t realize that this behavior isn’t limited to intact male dogs,” said Dr. Pamela Reid, a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and Vice President of the American Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' (ASPCA) Anti-Cruelty Behavior Team and the Anti-Cruelty Behavioral Rehabilitation Center. Dogs—both male and female—hump for a variety of reasons:

Sexual Behavior

Stress or Excitement

Social Dominance

Compulsive Behavior Disorders

Attention Seeking

Health Problems

https://www.petmd.com/dog/behavior/why-do-female-dogs-hump

Also dogs do not scoot or drag their butts across carpets or grass to wipe their asses.

Scooting -- when a dog drags its anus along the ground -- is almost always a sign something is irritating your dog. What's behind that irritation can range from infection to worms to inflammation. Some of the most common reasons dogs drag their bottom include:

Anal Sac Problems.

Fecal contamination

Worms

Rectal prolapse

Other Causes of Scooting

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/dog-dragging-bottom#1
94   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 7, 4:37am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Last chance religious zealots who call themselves Christians and believe in Jesus since he is the way to the father...

If God and Jesus love all of their creations unconditionally and are taught to love one another as yourself - how is it that followers and modern day disciples find it acceptable to hate certain groups of people in the name of their God and Savior and/or because they claim they were directed to do so by the same deities who promote unconditional love?
95   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 7, 7:02am   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Last chance religious zealots who call themselves Christians and believe in Jesus since he is the way to the father...

If God and Jesus love all of their creations unconditionally and are taught to love one another as yourself - how is it that followers and modern day disciples find it acceptable to hate certain groups of people in the name of their God and Savior and/or because they claim they were directed to do so by the same deities who promote unconditional love?


Easy. Just because someone claims group affiliation doesn’t mean they represent the group as a whole.

Except Muslims. Pretty much all of them are bad due to the inherent design of the religion.
96   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 7, 9:02am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

So liberals now have gone down to a level of a fucking dog lol?

Went from humans to trash in one generation.

Kakistocracy says
@Patrick - read this and learn something lest I get accused of making shit up

Both male and female dogs mount other dogs, people, and objects. Most people don’t realize that this behavior isn’t limited to intact male dogs,” said Dr. Pamela Reid, a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and Vice President of the American Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' (ASPCA) Anti-Cruelty Behavior Team and the Anti-Cruelty Behavioral Rehabilitation Center. Dogs—both male and female—hump for a variety of reasons:

Sexual Behavior

Stress or Excitement

Social Dominance

Compulsive Behavior Disorders

Attention Seeking

Health Problems

https://www.petmd.com/dog/behavior/why-do-female-dogs-hump

Also dogs do not scoot or drag their butts across carpets or grass to wipe their asses.

Scooting -- when a dog drags its anus along the ground -- is almost alwa...
97   Quigley   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 7, 9:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says

If God and Jesus love all of their creations unconditionally and are taught to love one another as yourself - how is it that followers and modern day disciples find it acceptable to hate certain groups of people in the name of their God and Savior and/or because they claim they were directed to do so by the same deities who promote unconditional love?


What a freshman argument. I mean, I literally argued this when i was a freshman in college with other kids who liked to argue stuff. We were all just trying to make up our own minds about stuff we’d been exposed to.
Seriously, do some of your own homework here. We can’t give you ALL of the answers!
98   Elgatouno   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 7, 9:34am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
Kakistocracy says

If God and Jesus love all of their creations unconditionally and are taught to love one another as yourself - how is it that followers and modern day disciples find it acceptable to hate certain groups of people in the name of their God and Savior and/or because they claim they were directed to do so by the same deities who promote unconditional love?


What a freshman argument.


I didn't know arguments ended with question marks, I thought they indicated questions. Silly me, I must not be a tRumpcuck.
99   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 7, 10:08am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Left argues from arrogant ignorance.
100   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 7, 3:54pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
That would actually be Catholic Priests, Dennis Hastert and other fine upstanding types. Preach one thing and do another


And.

Drag queen storytime reader once charged with child sex assault
Houston Public Library says Albert Alfonso Garza has been banned from participating in drag queen story time after learning he was charged for child sex assault.
HOUSTON, Texas (KTRK) -- Houston Public Library is apologizing after a man charged for sexually assaulting a child was allowed to entertain children at Drag Queen storytime.

https://abc13.com/drag-queen-storytime-reader-once-charged-with-assault/5197176/

And another one, also Houston:
Dees, who reportedly goes by other names, was not caught in a background check the library allegedly ran.
But according to Fox 26, Dees “went to jail in 2004 after being convicted of abusing multiple children.”
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/houston-library-hosts-convicted-sex-offender-member-of-sisters-of-perpetual-indulgence-to-read-to-children/

Note that this isn't a program with 100 Drag Queens Involved. We're talking maybe ten people, and already two were convicted offenders. 20% child molesters is not a good start.
101   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 4:11am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
And.


Forgot to add this one below in addition to Catholic Priests, Dennis Hastert and other fine upstanding types. Preach one thing and do another:

Abuse of Faith - 20 years, 700 victims: Southern Baptist sexual abuse spreads as leaders resist reforms - Parts 1, 2 and 3

https://patrick.net/post/1322288/2019-02-11-abuse-of-faith-20-years-700-victims-southern-baptist-sexual-abuse-spreads-as-leaders-resist-reforms-parts-1-2-and-3

Once again the sexual persuasion of the two women is not the issue - it is the failure of Child Protective Services no matter how much the usual gang wants to make it about gays.
102   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 4:19am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Quigley says
What a freshman argument.


Good - answer the question. Not in college anymore, everyone is well past college age.

While answering explain the resident religious zealot from Reseda (and other on the forum) who talk from both sides of their mouths on the issue.

First being a holier than thou Christian supposedly following the word of God and Jesus while dealing hate and vitriol against so many other groups and religions.

How in the hell does that work ?

Let me guess - Christians still trying to make up their own minds about stuff they've been exposed to for decades and not quite ready to accept all of the word of God/Jesus since some of it is yucky so just believe the parts they like.

Is that it ?
103   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 4:21am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
Left argues from arrogant ignorance.


Isn't that religion - arrogant ignorance and interpretations of the bible to suit the current needs
104   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 4:26am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

FortWayneIndiana says
So liberals now have gone down to a level of a fucking dog lol?

Went from humans to trash in one generation.


Not doing well with reading comprehension ?

How many of those MWMs, the Sunday morning Christians in the 40-60 age group desperately cruising gay web sites desperately looking for sex from anything are your neighbors, fellow parishioners, co-workers, flag waving bible carrying patriots ?

The same ones who are helping to spread social diseases including HIV

The same ones who are publicly denouncing everything and everyone for their behaviors but doing the exact same thing they condemn when they think no one is looking....

How far in the "trash" you want me to dig - you won't like the results
105   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 4:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MLTC & others - anyone want to expand on the information on comment #39 from the guest commenter ?

Why was that comment ignored ?
106   Reality   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 8, 6:18am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
FortWayneIndiana says
Left argues from arrogant ignorance.


Isn't that religion ?


Just like Leftist ideologies (including militant atheism) are religions too.

The difference is that traditional religions tend to be conducive to reproduction, whereas Leftist ideologies and Satanism (Karl Marx was a well known follower of Satanism) are self-destructive. I suppose, both have their places in human evolution: the normal phase of population growth, and the periodic purging. The lesbian couple taking half a dozen of abandoned children to deaths is a clear example of the latter. A lot of the Leftist "deviations" accomplish the same result on a genetic level.
107   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 8, 7:20am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That’s Kakistocracy says
MLTC & others - anyone want to expand on the information on comment #39 from the guest commenter ?

Why was that comment ignored ?


My only comment related to the comment is that the state probably hesitated to act because the couple was super lefty SJW lesbian.

Too politically risky of a situation for the state to intervene given the political climate, and you know those two leftards would have made a lot of noise.

This is the danger of playing the intersectionality olympics.
108   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 7:25am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Reality says
Just like Leftist ideologies (including militant atheism) are religions too.


So that would also make Rightist ideologies (including White Nationalism, White Supremacy, Fascism religions as well - yes ?

No self destructive examples of Rightist ideologies and leaders ?

There are no Rightist "deviations" ?
109   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 8, 7:31am   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran, I read your comment,

The state failed miserably...

If a mental illness was acknowledged and no action taken because of anticipated public backlash for removing the children because of the parents being gay - then that is a significant failure of the state systems and its leadership.

The same tired story however plays out with children in foster care of adopted by straight families.

The story should have been about the abject failure of the foster care and adoption systems in this country.
110   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 8, 8:31am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
The story should have been about the abject failure of the foster care and adoption systems in this country.


I agree. Foster kids are treated like trash in this country. It's sickening.
111   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (4)   2019 Apr 8, 8:59am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I’ll say it again, fags need to be kept away from children. They all got fucked up mental issues and are a worthless burden to society.

This fag culture needs to be marginalized and underground like in any normal society.
112   P N Dr Lo R   ignore (0)   2019 Apr 8, 9:09am   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
Foster kids are treated like trash in this country. It's sickening.
Most do it just for the money and not in the interest of the children. I'm sure the children get short shrift in any funds received by the foster family.
113   Ceffer   ignore (2)   2019 Apr 8, 11:58am   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Did the knobby strap ons survive?
114   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 8, 12:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

P N Dr Lo R says
Most do it just for the money and not in the interest of the children. I'm sure the children get short shrift in any funds received by the foster family.


I wouldn't be surprised.

I wish people would volunteer and go see these kids sometimes. They are wonderful people, better than the adults I deal with on a regular basis.
115   Reality   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 8, 7:00pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says

Reality says
Just like Leftist ideologies (including militant atheism) are religions too.


So that would also make Rightist ideologies (including White Nationalism, White Supremacy, Fascism religions as well - yes ?

No self destructive examples of Rightist ideologies and leaders ?

There are no Rightist "deviations" ?


Fascism is actually a brand of socialism: both Mussolini and Hitler were socialists, as were their followers ("German Socialist Workers' Party" and "Nazi" being a short-hand for National Socialism). Further more, what Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim eventually built were all bona fide Fascist regimes under the banner of Socialism. So Fascism has its roots in the political Left, and what the political Left lead to when in power is Fascism.

As for Nationalism and Supremacism, well, that is the foundation of religions: whether national founding myths, or the "Chosen People" ideology that started all three of the big monotheistic religions of today. Too much of that can be self-destructive, but not having any of it can detrimentally affect reproduction rate: e.g. the classic joke about children of "Reformist Jews" are no longer Jews; furthermore, Reformist Jews have much lower birth rate than Fundamentalist Jews and Conservative Jews; similarly for various shades of Christians and Muslims. IMHO, women usually can't care less about Nationalism or Supremacism (for themselves), which are tools that men use to convince women to reproduce with themselves: when you can't afford a trinket to keep the girl occupied while you while you try to get her into your bed, convince her your dick is God's gift to humanity might just do the trick.

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