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Grisly details emerge about the deaths of a lesbian couple and their 6 adopted kids whose SUV plunged off a California cliff

By Patrick following x   2019 Apr 5, 8:49pm 2,339 views   115 comments   watch   nsfw   quote     share    


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6883469/Details-shared-family-killed-California-cliff-plunge.html

Authorities have shared grisly details of the deaths of a family whose SUV plunged off a cliff in California, including how their bodies were retrieved and how the children had drugs in their system.

The details were revealed at a coroner's inquest on Wednesday in a bid to determine whether the March 2018 deaths of Jen and Sarah Hart and their six adopted children were accidental, a murder-suicide or undetermined.

The crash happened just days after authorities in Washington state, where the family moved in 2017 from Oregon, opened an investigation following allegations the children were being neglected.

A neighbor of the Harts in Woodland, Washington, had filed a complaint with the state, saying the children were apparently being deprived of food as punishment.

No one answered when social workers checking on the report went to the family's home near Portland, Oregon, on March 23.

Three days later, their SUV was found partially submerged on the ocean below a rugged cliff.

Google searches were read by California Highway Patrol Officer Jay Slates during the Mendocino County coroner’s inquest presented by the Sheriff’s Office Thursday.

'How long does it take to die from hypothermia in water while drowning in a car?', Sarah also searched, according to Slates’ testimony.

Sarah began searching at 12.30 am on March 24 as she and her family neared the Washington-Oregon border.

She would continue to conduct Google searches along these lines until 6:30 p.m. that night.

The bodies of Jen and Sarah were inside the SUV when it was discovered but one of the women fell out as the vehicle was being towed up the cliff off the coast of Mendocino County.

Sheriff Deputy Robert Julian testified on Wednesday that he was able to identify Sarah Hart through a Minnesota driver's license found near the car.

'I wasn't able to identify Jennifer Hart due to her fall,' Julian said.


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41   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 3:49pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I doubt that there is a God who loves all of this creatures


So a God would make some creations just so other creations have something to fuck with ?

Patrick says
Secondly, I don't believe that homosexuals are something either God or nature "created". It's just a bad choice in life, nothing more.


Explain gay behavior in nature among other animals.

Patrick says
Third, I just don't see the "hate and bigotry" you talk about in this thread.


Goran's comments are pure as snow I guess. I see the bigotry and hate against gays, blacks, etc. and not just from him

Since you are not a believer - perhaps someone else can show me exactly where in the bible it specially states in no uncertain words that God hates fags, or for that matter much of anything since even people who do not obey the commandments are open to redemption including those who commit murder.
42   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 3:53pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Per the anonymous contributor the state failed the children much as they do on a repeated basis month in month out in any given state where the foster care system comes into play. Truly not one of the country's great examples for the rest of the world.

Once more this would not have gotten the time of day like most of the failures in the foster care system that results in the death of child or more than one, but the article made it seem the only reason this event happened was because the women were gay which is a total crock of bullshit.
43   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 3:55pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Why did the story need to highlight the lesbian aspect of the couple instead of just saying a couple ?

Sensationalism and click bait, and it worked too, didn't it ?

Team Trump came out in force with the customary and usual commentary.
44   Ceffer   ignore (2)   2019 Apr 6, 3:59pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Fact was, nobody would say anything to the couple about glaring mental illness because they were pursuing protocols of PC correctness that gave them absolution from criticism or critical examination of their mental state or practices. Standards of mental health were being re-written and re-characterized just for them.

It's the moral and critical absolutions from observed insane behavior on the basis of PC correctness that is the condition of Liberal thought. "Oh, let's give them every consideration because they are pursuing the non-reality based PC dream." "Oh, this must be admirable altruism because gay and black and all, and should be encouraged as an exemplar."

Gold stars, absolution, hall passes, fantasy sociological scenarios, etc. etc. Gay or black are besides the point, except they are the common exonerating and exempt conditions that seem to crop up.

Obviously, reality kept defeating the delusion until the only way to preserve the delusion was the Jim Jones default.
45   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ceffer says
Standards of mental health were being re-written and re-characterized just for them.


They must be in overtime writing all those new standards in every state of the country then since all of the cases here in fly over country have been straight couples, black, white - but not gay and the race thing is split about 50-50 .

The bottom line is the social welfare system (in this case Child Protective Services) is a public and national disgrace but no one wants to talk about it unless it briefly shows up in the news, and God forbid that the system would get more resources - fuck that.
46   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 6, 4:03pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Explain gay behavior in nature among other animals.


There are actually no cases of innate and permanent and exclusive homosexuality in nature. There can't be, because such animals would instantly extinguish their own lines.

Sure, dogs will fuck your leg, for example. That does not mean that they innately, permanently, and exclusively leg-fuckers.

It just means that the desire to fuck is at such a level that, absent a bitch in heat, they will resort to your leg. But given a bitch in heat nearby, your leg is quite safe.

Kakistocracy says
perhaps someone else can show me exactly where in the bible it specially states in no uncertain words that God hates fags


Leviticus 20:13

If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


But that's Old Testament law, technically binding only on Jews, the same way that the prohibition on pork is only for Jews. The Christian position on homosexuality is more ambiguous, given that Jesus claimed to supercede the old law with the sole commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself."

And of course Islam demands death for gays, a fact almost never mentioned in the liberal press in spite of routine murders of gays in Islamic countries.

(BTW, there is no mention of lesbianism in the bible, old or new testaments. It just was not a concept back then.)
47   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:04pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
There are actually no cases of innate and permanent and exclusive homosexuality in nature


Prove it..
48   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 6, 4:05pm   ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Goran_K says
Leftism is a mental disorder.


Bullshit.

What happened to the mental disorder defense for white male mass shooters ? That is the standard get out of jail card for home grown terrorists who are never called terrorists.


White male mass shooters are extremely rare compared to your run of the mill black inner city shooter. Extremely rare.
49   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:05pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Leviticus 20:13

If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.


But that's Old Testament law, technically binding only on Jews, the same way that the prohibition on pork is only for Jews. The Christian position on homosexuality is more ambiguous, given that Jesus claimed to supercede the old law with the sole commandment to "love your neighbor as yourself."

And of course Islam demands death for gays, a fact almost never mentioned in the liberal press in spite of routine murders of gays in Islamic countries.

(BTW, there is no mention of lesbianism in the bible, old or new testaments. It just was not a concept back then.)


That is not what I asked - I asked specially where it states in on uncertain terms God "hates" one group, in this case gays. That is a hand me down interpretation and one has to remember when the King James version became the official bible after tossing out numerous books that did not sit well with the church.
50   Goran_K   ignore (3)   2019 Apr 6, 4:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Goran_K says
This is exactly what Democrats create with their “Great society” welfare state politics.


I thought FDR did all this, the country never knew there were black people in the United States before Eleanor Roosevelt discovered them - heard that from Archie Bunker himself and I think Archie is alive and well on the forum


FDR was the catalyst, LBJ cemented black poverty for generations.
51   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:06pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
And of course Islam demands death for gays, a fact almost never mentioned in the liberal press in spite of routine murders of gays in Islamic countries.


Yes - it does get plenty of publicity, most recently again with the Sultan of Brunei and anyone that takes the time to read just a wee bit.
52   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Sure, dogs will fuck your leg, for example.


Dogs try to hump legs for a number of different reasons, most of them non-sexual.
53   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 6, 4:07pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Why did the story need to highlight the lesbian aspect of the couple instead of just saying a couple ?


Homosexuality is closely associated with other mental health issues as well: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/12/lgbt-mental-health-sexuality-gender-identity

Kakistocracy says
That is not what I asked - I asked specially where it states in on uncertain terms God "hates" one group, in this case gays.


Doesn't it seem like God's commandment to kill gays is perhaps an indication of hate?
54   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 6, 4:10pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Patrick says
There are actually no cases of innate and permanent and exclusive homosexuality in nature


Prove it..


I believe you were the one who asserted asserted that there are such animals:

Kakistocracy says
Explain gay behavior in nature among other animals.
55   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Apr 6, 4:11pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Dogs try to hump legs for a number of different reasons, most of them non-sexual.


Non-sexual humping?

C'mon.
56   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:11pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Check out the Kate Millett story. She was a very abusive person. From her own sister to her academic groupies. Dworkin was similar.

Also interesting, FDR refused welfare programs for single mothers on grounds they would abandon their husbands and replace them with government. I will hunt down the quote.
57   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:12pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Doesn't it seem like God's commandment to kill gays is perhaps an indication of hate?


Is that a direct commandment, there were 10 handed down, that wasn't one of them. Sounds like the word of man to me just like the you have to get dressed up to go to church to show proper respect bullshit.
58   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:14pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
Non-sexual humping?

C'mon.


Female dogs hump legs just the same as males.

They do it to establish dominance, establish ownership, out of a habit that was not corrected, to get attention and sometimes horny.

All my shepherds did it - the females constantly mounting the males to fight for dominance and with humans it can be dominant behavior or to show that you "belong" to them in addition to play and horny.

My first female cocker spaniel was notorious for the bullshit to show who is in control etc. and the one I have now is not much better since they are ridiculously territorial and want to claim everything as theirs.

They were both spayed before 9 months.
59   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:15pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Check out the Kate Millett story. She was a very abusive person. From her own sister to her academic groupies. Dworkin was similar.


And the point is ?

You think the people I am talking about in fly over country doing this bullshit are normal ?
60   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:17pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Goran_K says
White male mass shooters are extremely rare compared to your run of the mill black inner city shooter. Extremely rare.


This. It's part of the great Leftist narrative to ignore the vast majority of mass shootings in urban, often gun free areas. While concentrating on a handful of white or hispamic mentally ill kids who because of 60s antipsychiatry leftists like Millett and Liang cannot be reasonably forcibly hospitalized.
61   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:17pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
I believe you were the one who asserted asserted that there are such animals:


I am trying to find an unbiased scientific commentary that won't get torn to shreds by the Jebus crowd
62   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:18pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
While concentrating on a handful of white or hispamic mentally ill kids who because of 60s antipsychiatry leftists like Millett and Liang cannot be reasonably forcibly hospitalized.


Poor little things - mentally ill otherwise not a threat until it becomes one.
63   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:20pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
It's part of the great Leftist narrative to ignore the vast majority of mass shootings in urban, often gun free areas.


Not ignoring it at all but lets not pretend for one second that white nationalist supremacists adherents who engage in mass killing are just fine and dandy except for that slight mental problem.
64   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:22pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is about as close as I can get quickly without an ardent heterosexual, homosexual or religious bias

https://cypheravenue.com/homosexuality-natural-as-nature-intended/
65   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:23pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Patrick - I sense you have not spent a great deal of time around dogs
66   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:25pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Here is one more from the BBC

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150206-are-there-any-homosexual-animals

Unfortunately since animals can not communicate with us because humans are too dumb to learn to communicate with them, we are left to make assumptions about the behavior as it applies to humans.
67   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
Not ignoring it at all but lets not pretend for one second that white nationalist supremacists adherents who engage in mass killing are just fine and dandy except for that slight mental problem.


The national media gives less attention to any individual or aggregate urban mass shooting. It's only interested when the shooter is a non black, the overwhelming minority of all mass shootings

We've been over this before. Neither parkland nor las Vegas shooters were so called white supremacists. No matter how many faux terrorist databases list them
68   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:26pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

One more:

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Unfortunately most articles have a heavy religious influence - go figure.
69   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:31pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Neither parkland nor las Vegas shooters were so called white supremacists


And we know this beyond all shadow of a doubt because ?

Got hand it to the country, NRA and similar...white supremacists and nationalists are nothing to be worried about. It's those damn blacks - and brown people plus those looney tunes who face Mecca but not anyone who believes in Jebus
70   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:33pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
No matter how many faux terrorist databases list them


Must be more alternate facts again - alternate data bases....
71   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says

The national media gives less attention to any individual or aggregate urban mass shooting


Local media doesn't but it's become so common place and accepted now it seldom gets in the first few pages of section one - which says something about the society in this country and it isn't good.

We as a country and people have decided for now to accept the daily killings from one end of the country to the other as "normal" and a day or two without one is the "abnormal" day.

Something really really wrong with that picture.
72   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:36pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

That's not how any of this works, kak.

The burden is on the claimant. Both Lv authorities and the FBI concluded Pollard did not act from a political or religious motive. Nor did the Parkland shooter whose frequent encounters with powerless and/or lazy authorities and his voices are well documented.
73   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

In contrast, both the media and Bush admin concealed and/OR downplayed both the jihad and homosexual aspests of THE DC snipers
74   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:38pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
Both Lv authorities and the did not act from a political or religious motive.


Kind of hard to interrogate a dead person.

They haven't found in favor of white nationalists/supremacists much at all - just that pesky mental illness problem.

Anyone think the authorities are going to admit they fucked up and keep fucking up or just plain don't give a rats ass

It goes without saying anyone perpetrating mass murder is a few cards short of a full shuffle.
75   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:39pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says
In contrast, both the media and Bush admin concealed and/OR downplayed both the jihad and homosexual aspests of THE DC snipers


And this is important because ?
77   HonkpilledMaster   ignore (5)   2019 Apr 6, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Yes paddock. Las Vegas shooter

His choice of targets also speaks against a white supremacist motive
78   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:46pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Kakistocracy says
We as a country and people have decided for now to accept the daily killings from one end of the country to the other as "normal" and a day or two without one is the "abnormal" day.

Something really really wrong with that picture.


MLTC - your thoughts ?
79   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:47pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

MisterLearnToCode says

His choice of targets also speaks against a white supremacist motive


Is there a preferred target ?
80   anonymous   ignore (null)   2019 Apr 6, 4:52pm   ↑ like (0)   ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Back to the thread - the state failed the children, their sexuality is neither here nor there. One state/city after another has a dismal record of failures with the Child Protective Services agencies.

The bottom line here is the "system" is not protecting those unable to protect themselves, but as a society we try to avoid dealing with that truth
because is shows something ugly and unflattering about ourselves in what we are willing to accept as an acceptable standard of performance on the part of these agencies..

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