patrick.net

I don't disagree with you, but..

As presented, this thread comes off as: personal

You mean Jazz is really Keyser Söze?

IT's not like Trump ever stopped seeming racist, or at a minimum keeping the racist elements of his base on board.

As for being a fascist, yes, those Trump tendencies have never subsided either.

If Trump manages to avoid even the kind of congressional harassment (over all of dirt they have on Trump) that Hillary received from congress over Benghazi (BEFORE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT), wouldn't that be proof that Trump is achieving success as a fascist dictator ?

marcus says

IT's not like Trump ever stopped seeming racist, or at a minimum keeping the racist elements of his base on board.

As for being a fascist, yes, those Trump tendencies have never subsided either.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2][3][4] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

You will indulge us by presenting factual evidence that President Trump has:
-Exercized dictatorial power
-Forcibly supressed the Democrats
-Regimented society and the economy

Wont you?

In lieu, you can apologize and state that you were incorrect to state that President Trump has facist tendencies. Its ok to admit you are wrong. Happens to the best of us.

Oh yes, you'll also provide the names of say 10,000 people who compose this "racist elements of his base" won't you? Should be easy since President Trump's base numbers in the tens of millions. A small sample of 10,000 racists that support President Trump should suffice.

In other words, put up or shut up.

What is obvious to me, has been written about at great lengths. In my opinion it's impossible for a person with an IQ over 80 to deny Trumps authoritarian tendencies, or to deny that it's understandable how and why other people see such tendencies.

He was saying that the 2016 election was rigged in the days before, on the chance that he lost. He has shown nothing but admiration for the worlds most heavy handed authoritarian dictators. HE routinely calls the media the enemy of the people, for being willing to document his lies and incompetence, he said that there are plenty of bikers that will be behind him if the people rise up in protest to impeach him, he encouraged violence against protesters at his rallies.

I shouldn't need to write my own essay on this. MAny have already. I'm not your google bitch, but here are a few (I give you the benefit of the doubt - that you really want to know - that you may be even slightly open minded):

https://prospect.org/article/trumps-authoritarian-grip-tightens

http://www.publicseminar.org/2018/01/why-is-trumps-authoritarianism-so-hard-for-some-to-recognize/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/18/is-donald-trump-an-authoritarian-experts-examine-telltale-signs

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-authoritarian-mueller-813585/

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/08/have-trumps-authoritarian-tendencies-found-a-new-outlet

https://www.newsweek.com/harvard-political-science-professor-donald-trump-authoritarian-how-democracy-778425



As your claim that saying TRumps base includes white racists, can not be proven without a list of 10,000 names ? All I can say is, okay. I guess this means there are an awful lot of accepted facts in history that haven't actually been proven.

Every Republican Candidate or Official is called racist. Anybody except the Hard Left ignores it now.

A reminder that a guy who paraded in Blackface several times in college and even Law school is still Governor of Virginia.

marcus says

This is false, even as humor.

marcus says

What is obvious to me, has been written about at great lengths. In my opinion it's impossible for a person with an IQ over 80 to deny Trumps authoritarian tendencies, or to deny that it's understandable how and why other people see such tendencies.

He was saying that the 2016 election was rigged in the days before, on the chance that he lost. He has shown nothing but admiration for the worlds most heavy handed authoritarian dictators. HE routinely calls the media the enemy of the people, for being willing to document his lies and incompetence, he said that there are plenty of bikers that will be behind him if the people rise up in protest to impeach him, he encouraged violence against protesters at his rallies.

I shouldn't need to write my own essay on this. MAny have already. I'm not your google bitch, but here are a few (I give you the benefit of the doubt - that you really want to know - that you may be even slightly open minded):

HonkpilledMaster says

Every Republican Candidate or Official is called racis

I can't think of any republican Presidents that I thought were nearly as racist as the Donald, although I recall the so called southern strategy, and so called "dog whistles." These are things that don't exist in the typical right winger world. In fact, white racists don't exist in the typical right winger world, which tells you most of what you need to know about this.

Trump didn't bother with "dog whistles."

I'm quoting this and giving you another chance to substantively justify your statement that President Trump has facist tendencies.

The articles you cited are as nonsensical as the claims Michelle Obama has a penis.

CovfefeButDeadly says

marcus says

IT's not like Trump ever stopped seeming racist, or at a minimum keeping the racist elements of his base on board.

As for being a fascist, yes, those Trump tendencies have never subsided either.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2][3][4] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

You will indulge us by presenting factual evidence that President Trump has:
-Exercized dictatorial power
-Forcibly supressed the Democrats
-Regimented society and the economy

Wont you?

In lieu, you can apologize and state that you were incorrect to state that President Trump has facist tendencies. Its ok t...

CovfefeButDeadly says

The articles you cited are as nonsensical as the claims Michelle Obama has a penis.

I disagree, but then I read them.

marcus says

I can't think of any republican Presidents that I thought were nearly as racist as the Donald, although I recall the so called southern strategy, and so called "dog whistles." These are things that don't exist in the typical right winger world. In fact, white racists don't exist in the typical right winger world, which tells you most of what you need to know about this.

John McCain, now beloved on Democrats, was called a Racist.
https://42thingstohateaboutjohnmccain.wordpress.com/tag/racism/

W and Elder Bush were called Racist - even the Antichrist
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/1/18121221/george-hw-bush-willie-horton-dog-whistle-politics
https://www.seattleweekly.com/news/is-bush-the-antichrist/

Reagan was called Racist.
https://progressive.org/op-eds/nostalgia-reagan-distorts-policies-blacks/

Mitt Romney was called Racist
https://newrepublic.com/article/106588/romney-cribs-gops-willie-horton-playbook

So no surprise that Donald is called a Racist.

!!!Jeb!!! the Exciting! would have been called racist. As would have Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, or any other nominee winner in 2016.

Booger says

Very compelling

HonkpilledMaster says

So no surprise that Donald is called a Racist

Okay somebody called each of those other republicans racist. And in each case they may have been the candidate that was more appealing to white racists (not necessarily making them raicst).

Therefore you get to ignore Trump's racism. Brilliant.

CovfefeButDeadly says

This is false, even as humor.

Very little in the political humor thread is actually funny.

Some of it is funny to me. Sometimes it's just pointing out the ironic or bizarre nature of TRump and modern politics.

And btw, I believe this to be 100% obviously true.

marcus says

You can argue that it's justified, or that it's not racist. Maybe argue that it's politically incorrect things that needed to be said. But if you argue that it's false, you're just lying.

But that's okay. If we follow the example of the most powerful man in America, lying is apparently a good thing now.

marcus says

Therefore you get to ignore Trump's racism. Brilliant.

Where's the proof Trump is racist? I hear it parroted over and over, but I can't seem to find evidence that he's fundamentally racist.

marcus says

Some of it is funny to me. Sometimes it's just pointing out the ironic or bizarre nature of TRump and modern politics.

And btw, I believe this to be 100% obviously true.

marcus says

You can argue that it's justified, or that it's not racist. Maybe argue that it's politically incorrect things that needed to be said. But if you argue that it's false, you're just lying.

But that's okay. If we follow the example of the most powerful man in America, lying is apparently a good thing now.

Your still talking about how Bill Clinton lied about cheating on Hilary?

The Trump Slander-pedia is vast, well orchestrated, and contains enough material for the LibbyFucks to swill in without no stinkin' collusion or obstruction!

Back in the olden days, if 3 guys were drowning, a white american, a latino from Guatemala and an iraqi Muslim and there was only one life preserver, the american with the life preserver would probably throw it to the white american. I imagine that Trump would also do that too....because he is RACIST...lol
But the new leftists wouldn't even consider throwing it to the white american...He would be last on their list. (because they are not racists).
Being an American, I guess that I prefer Racists.

Booger says

Very little in the political humor thread is actually funny.

Comedy doesn't have to be funny anymore.

komputodo says

Comedy doesn't have to be funny anymore.

When you are in an era when the example the President of the United States sets for children is that being amoral and dishonest is supposedly the way to be, then who is really to say what's funny ?

In such an era, is it surprising that those who admire such a president don't find the same things funny as those who despise everything he represents ?

Perhaps, I really should be crying about it. I choose to laugh about the absurdity and insanity of it.

marcus says

When you are in an era when the example the President of the United States sets for children is that being amoral and dishonest is supposedly the way to be, then who is really to say what's funny ?

You think that children in America are paying attention to what Trump does? Much more likely they are watching TEEN MOM, THE KARDASHIANS, MY SUPER SWEET SIXTEEN, ETC. and getting their morals and sex education from that.
People seem to forget that he has only been in office 2 years...Were children honest and moral 3 years ago?

marcus says

When you are in an era when the example the President of the United States sets for children is that being amoral and dishonest is supposedly the way to be,

Are you talking about Bill "I did not have sex with that woman" Clinton? Didn't he teach school children in the US that oral sex is not sex? It's amazing those who voted for a real rapist and his covering-up wife (i.e. not just dishonest but also obstruction of justice, threatening and bashing rape victims) to be President on 3 (or was that 4) separate occasions would profess moral outrage against Trump.

marcus says

Okay somebody called each of those other republicans racist. And in each case they may have been the candidate that was more appealing to white racists (not necessarily making them raicst).

Therefore you get to ignore Trump's racism. Brilliant.

Oh dear, Marcus.

Trump is not a racist, the Democrats are racist.

marcus says

When you are in an era when the example the President of the United States sets for children is that being amoral and dishonest is supposedly the way to be, then who is really to say what's funny ?

Speaking of amoral, any Democratic apologies for Russian Collusion?

HonkpilledMaster says

Oh dear, Marcus.

What are you gonna do? You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him believe it’s wet enough to drink. Or that Trump actually never said racist things or promoted racist views. Or in fact, actually promoted racial equality and justice. Or won awards from the NAACP for the same.
To some people, he’s a racist because Maddow said so.

Hmmm. if it walks like one and talks like one...

marcus says

I shouldn't need to write my own essay on this. MAny have already. I'm not your google bitch, but here are a few (I give you the benefit of the doubt - that you really want to know - that you may be even slightly open minded):

https://prospect.org/article/trumps-authoritarian-grip-tightens

http://www.publicseminar.org/2018/01/why-is-trumps-authoritarianism-so-hard-for-some-to-recognize/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/nov/18/is-donald-trump-an-authoritarian-experts-examine-telltale-signs

marcus says

Okay somebody called each of those other republicans racist. And in each case they may have been the candidate that was more appealing to white racists (not necessarily making them raicst).

In other words: "OK you caught us, we falsely called all of those past Republican candidates raaaacists. But we are super serious about this time with Trump. Why don't you believe us and take us seriously???!!!!"

Sorry man - your side has lost all credibility. The Left has exacerbated race relations as they cheapened what it means to be racist by calling everyone to the right of Bernie Sanders and AOC a racist.

Reminds me of this Bill Maher clip from 2 years ago admitting that the Democrats cried wolf calling past Republicans everything under the sun.

www.youtube.com/embed/_ul2OuvPOQE

And here in VA, the Dems are all understanding and forgiving now on Gov Northam's blackface and klan pics on his personal yearbook page at med school.