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Oberlin must pay for Gibson Store Slander


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2019 Jun 7, 5:22pm   1,297 views  9 comments

by MisdemeanorRebel   ➕follow (12)   💰tip   ignore  

Remember the three African-American students stopped for Shoplifting, which started a riot at Oberlin?

Oberlin lost, big time.

These may seem like non-political examples. But the reason I included them is to show that the judge did not want to open the door even a smidgen to allow this case to get off on a political track. He did not want to students or administrators to use the witness stand to debate if Gibson’s was racist or not. He did not want the school to bring up an expert who might testify that that reason the students were up in arms over racism because of the political climate of November of 2016, and therefore that was the excuse for protesting.

Or allowing the plaintiffs to introduce evidence or testimony that political ideology wasn’t the excuse for, but the cause of, the protests and racial accusations.

In short, Judge Miraldi is keeping this case as simple as he can. Namely, did Oberlin College support and help students defame a business in a way that was against the law? And if so, how much do they owe the business and the individuals allegedly defamed?

That is not to say that the political ramifications of that time and place were not a big part of why this happened and when it did. Since I first heard of this protest in Oberlin on Nov. 10-11 of 2016, my first thought was that it occurred a few days after the Trump-Clinton election. I am convinced that if the shoplifting had occurred three months earlier or three months later, there would have been little or no protest over three African-Americans shoplifting at Gibson’s.

There is no question, however, that the school was ripe for venting anger over racial issues and Trump’s win that the student body was upset with. But the only evidence in this case that has a political bent in that direction was the letter sent out the Oberlin College community on Nov. 11 by school President Marvin Krislov and Raimondo.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/06/gibsons-bakery-v-oberlin-college-trial-judge-keeps-out-politics-but-town-v-gown-frames-the-case/

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1   Ceffer   2019 Jun 7, 11:34pm  

Set up bogus political departments in universities that have no true intellectual purpose, tradition or foundation. Add students who have been trained to believe that facts don't matter, only emotion or force, and have never had to discipline themselves, just get authorities to back down through tantrums or threat. Drop performance standards down to the lowest common denominator. What could possibly go wrong.
2   Patrick   2022 Apr 4, 5:59pm  

https://www.dailywire.com/news/appeals-court-upholds-multi-million-dollar-verdict-against-oberlin-college-for-defaming-gibsons-bakery?source=patrick.net


Appeals Court Upholds Multi-Million Dollar Verdict Against Oberlin College For Defaming Gibson’s Bakery
By Ashe Schow
Apr 2, 2022 DailyWire.com
3   EBGuy   2022 Apr 4, 9:12pm  

I don't understand. How did it all go so wrong...
This spring, at Oberlin, I tracked down Cyrus Eosphoros, the student who’d worried about the triggering effects of “Antigone.” We met at the Slow Train Café, a coffee joint on College Street, one of the two main streets that make up Oberlin’s downtown. (The other is called Main Street.) Eosphoros is a shy guy with a lambent confidence. He was a candid, stylish writer for the school newspaper and a senator in student government. That day, he wore a distressed bomber jacket and Clubmaster glasses. His hair was done in the manner of Beaver Cleaver’s, with a cool blue streak across the top. Eosphoros is a trans man. He was educated in Mexico, walks with crutches, and suffers from A.D.H.D. and bipolar disorder. (He’d lately been on suicide watch.) He has cut off contact with his mother, and he supports himself with jobs at the library and the development office. He said, “I’m kind of about as much of a diversity checklist as you can get while still technically being a white man.”

Half a century ago, Eosphoros might not have had access to élite higher education in the United States. In that respect, he is exactly the sort of student—bright, self-made, easily marginalized—whom selective colleges like Oberlin have been eager to enroll. So I was taken aback when he told me that he’d just dropped out for want of institutional support.

“There’s this persistent, low-grade dehumanization from everyone,” he said. “Somebody will be, like, ‘Yeah, I had a class with a really great professor, and it was wonderful,’ and I’ll be sitting there, like, ‘Oh, yes, that was the professor who failed me for getting tuberculosis,’ or ‘That was the professor who, because I have double time on exams, scheduled them during lunch.’ ” Eosphoros was drinking Oberlin’s specialty, the Albino Squirrel: a white mocha with hazelnut syrup and a generous dollop of whipped cream. In an Oberlin Review essay explaining his “Antigone” experience (it was Antigone’s case for suicide that concerned him), he argued that trigger warnings were like ingredient lists on food: “People should have the right to know and consent to what they’re putting into their minds, just as they have the right to know and consent to what they’re putting into their bodies.”
4   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 4, 9:46pm  

EBGuy says

Half a century ago, Eosphoros might not have had access to élite higher education in the United States.


That's the problem.

He'd have been the family nut, at the happy home with chirping birds and everything is beautiful all of the time. Now he's some kind of victim-hero.
5   Ceffer   2022 Apr 4, 10:16pm  

EBGuy says
Eosphoros was drinking Oberlin’s specialty, the Albino Squirrel: a white mocha with hazelnut syrup

How come the squirrels didn't get triggered and sue Oberlin, too?
6   NuttBoxer   2022 Apr 5, 2:15pm  

I suggest writing an email to the president and alumni, it's quite enjoyable to call out racists. And Oberlin is full of them, because we all know had those store owners been black, wouldna heard shit about this.

https://www.oberlin.edu/campus-resources/contact-us/directory?source=patrick.net
7   WillyWanker   2022 Apr 6, 12:08am  

Oberlin should just pay and learn a lesson not to side with criminals.
9   Bd6r   2022 Jul 10, 12:51pm  

Hope the legal stalemate results in 30M interest bill on woke college payment. $$$ is the only way how to dhut this nonsense down.

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