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Ron Paul on Larry King: RT

Published on Aug 15, 2019
Former congressman Ron Paul (R-TX) discusses his support for Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard, and tells Larry King why he thinks some D.C. factions are against her White House run. Plus, his take on the U.S.-China trade war.

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There's an enormous class action wolf pack prepared to pounce on Big Pharma and I suppose they would support any vehicle that they think might convince a jury of 'peers' who can't possibly grasp the issues.

Psychotropic drugs are witches oils, applied in an almost experimental manner on a case by case basis by shrinks, with spectacular results both on the good side as well as the bad side. This is why monitoring is so important. Psychiatrists often have to change drugs or combinations of drugs for particular individuals to get something that works for them. Without the monitoring, the drugs might have adverse effects.

However, very few people really have the money to afford the appropriate psychiatric monitoring, so the drugs are applied haphazardly and even en masse like psychotropic blunderbuss. The hope is to bring behavior into a more general normative range so the individuals don't have to be more aggressively institutionalized, segregated, or scapegoated.

Our legal system is cursed by lawyers and 'victims' getting rich on the random bad results which then deprives the entirety of society for the often majority 'good' results. It is a case of the few profiting at the expense of the majority. Doesn't seem to matter, because the guys getting rich on windfalls aren't exactly the types with true, rather than purely faked, social conscience anyway. They are more like sociopaths selling windfall lottery tickets.

Establishing cause and effect even if the shooters WERE on psychiatric medicines is going to be tricky and scarcely syllogistic. You could just as well argue that it wasn't the medicines or withdrawal at all. It was the unmasking of their inherent underlying psychosis or mental disabilities because they WEREN'T continuing to take these medications or on the proper regimen of medication.

Ceffer says

Psychotropic drugs are witches oils, applied in an almost experimental manner on a case by case basis by shrinks, with spectacular results both on the good side as well as the bad side. This is why monitoring is so important.

On the one hand you call these drugs "witches oils" and on the other hand you think they have good effects. If the good effects are controlling the behavior of kids instead of allowing them to be kids and deal with their natural energy, then I guess you have a point, but dulling the senses for classroom control is a problem for me. I don't think they should be giving the kids drugs, especially not their manufactured drugs for deadening the populace to make them more pliable.

I'm not fond of the idea of giving kids the drugs, either, but that is no reason to throw out the baby with the bathwater. Many of these psychological problems are beyond baffling and arbitrary. I knew a guy whose father was a professional, and he took drugs from the time he was a kid because of psyche problems from childhood. He seemed pretty 'normal' when I talked with him as an adult. However, he told me about a web site which I don't have any more. All of these juiced up, hyperactive young adults were trading tips on all the drug cocktails that they used to try to be 'normal' and restrained .

it struck me as nothing more than an exotic, iatrogenic drug dependency. However, I have heard shrinks talk about how difficult it is to mediate many of the severe mental problems they encounter any other way, short of involuntary commitment. The meds are still only partially understood, so applying them is a sort of dark art. Any drug that is psychotropic can also be abused.

A question I have is how many of these meds wind up being largely self administered without monitoring, and what kind of withdrawal they lead to. Detox is a dangerous process that needs to be medically regulated as well, and, yes, detox itself can lead to psychosis that may or may not sort itself out. That can be true of beneficial meds as well as the usual array of recreational and illegal meds.

It's a complex social problem, and it's not as simple as saying bad things happen sometimes, therefore all meds are bad and only bad people prescribe them. Cars are deadly devices and we accept the carnage because as a society we refuse to live without their convenience. Cars kill a lot more people than misadventures with psychotropic meds, so some perspective is necessary.

Ceffer says

It's a complex social problem, and it's not as simple as saying bad things happen sometimes, therefore all meds are bad and only bad people prescribe them.

ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY WITHOUT QUESTION Very Bad! Stupid! Things were so much better in the 1960'2 and 70's when real drugs that were fun were available, drugs that expanded consciousness instead of deadening it. Your friend sounds like a zombie. That's what these prescription drugs do: zombiefy you. Just to be normal? My God, please preserve me from that, anything but. I see so many people walking around brain dead. It's like T.S. Eliot said, "A crowd flowed over London Bridge, I had not thought death had undone so many."

It's sad that the younger generation thinks things are better now with less choices, less possibilities. When I was growing up in the 60's no one had to work two jobs to get by. You could live cheap and you had plenty of time to go to all the rock concerts you wanted and play with your friends for hours. Back then life was exciting and interesting and you didn't have school shootings and students weren't given a bunch of pharmaceuticals. No, you got those from the local drug dealer and you got fun drugs that made you want to live and shout.

Oh but we can't have that now can we? We all must sit still and be NORMAL.

Sad, just sad.