patrick.net

If he didn't rape & murder a young girl in 1990, why hasn't he denied it yet? Why does he choose to remain silent on the issue? What's he hiding? He needs to come clean on the issue.

Either that or hope that some songbird nymph is upstaged by a talentless piece of shit on national teevee and take away the attention from his purported crimes...

Patrick - the Glenbeckraped... site is totally off the ranch. Its not even good parody.

Generally Glen provides plenty of independently verifiable evidence.

How about we discuss him a bit - starting with the claim "Glenn Beck’s method of operation is to use innuendo and insinuation to rile people up," Maybe you are right but I watch him quite frequently and though I have my own disagreements with him I wouldnt agree with that position at all. Can you provide any examples of that (innuendo and insinuation) whatsoever?

nolanjj, you have not provided one shred of evidence to suggest that Glenn Beck did not rape and murder a young girl in 1990.

Where are his alibis from every day in 1990? Surely this is a trivial thing to produce. I'm not saying he did rape and murder a young girl in 1990, but if he did he should burn in hell for the horrible suffering that that poor girl that he raped and murdererd -- allegedly -- went through.

nolanjj says

Patrick - the Glenbeckraped… site is totally off the ranch. Its not even good parody.
Generally Glen provides plenty of independently verifiable evidence.
How about we discuss him a bit - starting with the claim “Glenn Beck’s method of operation is to use innuendo and insinuation to rile people up,” Maybe you are right but I watch him quite frequently and though I have my own disagreements with him I wouldnt agree with that position at all. Can you provide any examples of that (innuendo and insinuation) whatsoever?

If they had any legitimate evidence of Beck's transgressions in the past, they would have used it.

Really? 'cause I saw a bad copy of an article that showed that someone named Glenn Beck raped & murdered a young girl in 1990. Proof enough. Add to that the fact that he's been mum on the issue - an innnocent man certainly would have stepped forward to prove his innocence. We don't know where he was that day. He hasn't produced an alibi, including receipts of where he was (motel with another man, perhaps?). Maybe he's protecting a gay lover, maybe he was stoned on stolen oxycontin and wasn't able to rape & murder a young girl in 1990? Maybe he was playing dressup in his sister's clothing?

The point is that we dont' know. The public has a right to know whether the guy, who has built a career on Faux news using rumor & innuendo, participated in such an event. His silence speaks for itself. So far as providing examples of innuendo & insinuation, just play anything that's occurred after he opened his mouth.

elliemae says

Really? ’cause I saw a bad copy of an article that showed that someone named Glenn Beck raped & murdered a young girl in 1990. Proof enough. Add to that the fact that he’s been mum on the issue - an innnocent man certainly would have stepped forward to prove his innocence. We don’t know where he was that day. He hasn’t produced an alibi, including receipts of where he was (motel with another man, perhaps?). Maybe he’s protecting a gay lover, maybe he was stoned on stolen oxycontin and wasn’t able to rape & murder a young girl in 1990? Maybe he was playing dressup in his sister’s clothing?
The point is that we dont’ know. The public has a right to know whether the guy, who has built a career on Faux news using rumor & innuendo, participated in such an event. His silence speaks for itself. So far as providing examples of innuendo & insinuation, just play anything that’s occurred after he opened his mouth.

Be carefull what you wish for. You could ask Obama to answer similar questions; there is a book out there (by Larry Sinclair, you can find it on Amazon) alleging some of the things you mentioned in your post. If Sinclair is lying, Obama should sue him and demand that book be removed from bookstores.

You are upset because Beck was not afraid to challenge Obama's administration and its "czars" by asking tough questions. Does anybody in the current administration have enough courage to confront the man directly and challenge him in an interview?
They prefer softball interviews from the "main stream media".

nosf41 says

If they had any legitimate evidence of Beck’s transgressions in the past, they would have used it.

How about this one: "Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people". Beck said that. Beck has no evidence, he's just throwing it over the fence to try to get Obama to respond. There is no response to that, so Beck can say "see, he won't respond to it."

It's actually a typical psychological move called "projection". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

Beck knows many of his viewers (most?) are racist and horrified we have a smart and articulate black president, especially in contrast to Bush, who was neither smart nor articulate. Those viewers cannot admit their racism in public, and maybe not even to themselves. But to turn it around and accuse Obama of the "deep seated hatred" that the viewers themselves feel against blacks, now that's something that makes the viewers feel good!

It's actually brilliant in a sick way. It harms the whole country by dividing us, but it does increase Beck's popularity with racist viewers.

And hey, why hasn't Beck responded to the murder rumor? See, he won't respond to it! What is he hiding?

I have lost respect for you Patrick. You are truly mean-spirited.

nosf41 says

If they had any legitimate evidence of Beck’s transgressions in the past, they would have used it.

How about this one: “Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people”. Beck said that. Beck has no evidence, he’s just throwing it over the fence to try to get Obama to respond. There is no response to that, so Beck can say “see, he won’t respond to it.”
It’s actually a typical psychological move called “projection”. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Beck knows many of his viewers (most?) are racist and horrified we have a smart and articulate black president, especially in contrast to Bush, who was neither smart nor articulate. Those viewers cannot admit their racism in public, and maybe not even to themselves. But to turn it around and accuse Obama of the “deep seated hatred” that the viewers themselves feel against blacks, now that’s something that makes the viewers feel good!
It’s actually brilliant in a sick way. It harms the whole country by dividing us, but it does increase Beck’s popularity with racist viewers.
And hey, why hasn’t Beck responded to the murder rumor? See, he won’t respond to it! What is he hiding?

I do not know what Beck's motivation for that statement is. Send him an email and ask for clarification. Mention that you have a successful web site on real estate crash - you could even get some air time, you never know.

My opinion is that sitting in a church lead by a racist pastor for 20 years does count as evidence of somebody's character. For me it is a pretty strong proof where his heart is on the issue of race.

It is also arguable that Obama is smarter than Bush. This is a matter of personal opinion. We could compare their academic records. Unfortunately, Obama's school records are hidden from public. Why? What is so special about releasing college transcripts?
All we know is that he did not graduate with honors from Columbia University - which makes him highly unlikely to be accepted to Harward Law School. It would be interesting to find out who lobbied to get him into Harward Law School.
He was an editor of Harward Law Review - yet there is no record of him publishing any law papers. None!?
There is only one explanation - affirmative action.

During the election cycle in 2004 main stream media created a picture that Sen. Kerry was much smarter than "simpleton" Bush. At the time it was assumed that his academic record was much more impressive than Bush's. In 2005, when Kerry's college transcripts were released to public, it turned out that Bush had better grades than Kerry (by a tiny margin).

"How about this one: “Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people”. Beck said that. Beck has no evidence, he’s just throwing it over the fence to try to get Obama to respond. There is no response to that, so Beck can say “see, he won’t respond to it.”

Patrick - Unlike comments from others, which did not seemed ordered to finding the truth, your reference here is at least something concrete that can look into and verify or not.

I listen to Glen quite often and your quote from him seems like something he might say. I am sure I can look it up somewhere. But lets grant for the sake of discussion that he said that. The next question is - Did Glen Beck provide any evidence for this? It is theoretically possible that Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people is it not? It does not sound plausible since his own mother is white but since you have made the charge that Glen said this I will be happy to investigate it. It does not sound entirely out of character that Glen would say this so your assertion has an air of plausibility about it. Likewise though Ive never thought of Glen as one who levels unsubstantiated allegations so if he did say it I would expect that he also gave some reason for saying it.

For instance Is it disputable that Obama has associated with a number of rascist? Van Jones is clearly a racist and he was appointed by Obama. What about Jeremiah Wright(SP)? There are a number of famous African American who are allies of Obama and who also are arguably racist. Racism is not only a "white" problem.

In any case Ill be happy to take up the challenge and look into your point.

As an aside though I think as a point of order you should have provided some references to when Glen made this comment.

Personally I think you've totally misrepresented Glen but lets take your example find the truth. If you are correct than so be it.

Nomograph says

nosf41 says

It is also arguable that Obama is smarter than Bush. . . Obama’s school records are hidden from public. . . he did not graduate with honors from Columbia University - which makes him highly unlikely to be accepted to Harward Law School. . .He was an editor of Harward Law Review - yet there is no record of him publishing any law papers. There is only one explanation - affirmative action.

Nosf41 may be a child molester. I’m not saying he is, but the issue needs to be addressed and thus far nosf41 refuses to prove that he is not a child molester. Why? Why not simply prove he is not a child molester?
Also, nosf41 may be trying to force gay marriage down our throats. Why won’t he prove otherwise? That would surely be the best way to address this issue.
I also hear that nosf41 lied about his background in order to gain entry to the US. The simplest way to clear this up would be for him to provide proof in a court of law, yet thus far he has failed to do so. Why? What is nosf41 trying to hide?
It should be a simple matter for nosf41 to clear the air on these issues, yet he continues to hide behind lies. Why?

Hahaha...gasping for straws, aren't you? No answers for questions about Obama's past.

I have used reasonable assumptions about Obama using information available to the public. It is a pitty that we have to speculate about trivial biographic data of a person elected to the highest office in the USA.
I would be glad to hear if you can point out any logical inconsistency in my reasoning.

There is a HUGE difference between a private citizen and public official when it comes to expectation of privacy. If I run for a public office, I would assume that my basic background information (biography, education...) would be released to the public so that people can make educated comparisons between candidates.

To satisfy your curiosity about my status in the USA: naturalized US citizen, went through the immigration process abroad including all required health tests (TBC, HIV,...), unlike millions of illegals. Original birth certificate and school documents had to be shown to the immigration officer who was in charge of my case.

If you had information about somebody's criminal behavior you should be contacting the police, otherwise you are an accomplice to the crime.

nosf41 says

My opinion is that sitting in a church lead by a racist pastor for 20 years does count as evidence of somebody’s character. For me it is a pretty strong proof where his heart is on the issue of race.

I disagree. It's very weak proof. Why do you say that his pastor was racist? Because he's paranoid? Lots of white people are paranoid that blacks are out to get them too. How do you know Obama agreed with any of that?

You think he didn't like his white mother, or his white grandparents who took care of him? Maybe you just want to believe Obama is a racist. See "projection", above.

How about this one: “Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people”. Beck said that. Beck has no evidence, he’s just throwing it over the fence to try to get Obama to respond. There is no response to that, so Beck can say “see, he won’t respond to it.”

Hey, I've got one. How about someone who creates a thread with the topic that people who oppose Obama's healthcare plans are racists. I seem to remember that from a few weeks ago. Pot, kettle?

Most of the people on this forum (and the author of that particular thread) seem to be against the bailout mania of this administration and the previous one. I suppose the people opposed to the Obama bailouts must also be racist by the same logic that the people who oppose the healthcare plans must be racist.

I think it's mean spirited to make fun of Glenn Beck as it is to make fun of any mentally ill person.

Over and out.

Not sure why you are in such a bad place, Patrick, but I hope you work it out. Good luck.

Focus on the issues, they should be able to stand on their own. Do not attack those who are attacking issues with substance by labels, it just makes you appear desperate and pathetic. Focus on the issue, and if you thing Glenn Beck is a loon, why would you give him the time of day...unless you actually believe there is substance in some of his arguments that make you uncomfortable.

Whatever it is, from earlier posts where you have called those who do not agree with Obama racists to goofy attacks on a marginal host, have you no one around you who has told you that you are losing it, that you are going off of the deep end?

Sincerely, be well.

If only we COULD focus on facts! As it is the innuendo and false accusations seem to very easily supplant and obscure the facts of important debates. Just look at the heathcare discussions going on right now. The amount of crap going around on this issue is just staggering, and the only thing about it that surprises me is that the crap is taken seriously. Death panels!

And lets be honest - Glenn Beck is one of the leading suppliers of misleading information in this debate, and most others. Please just admit that and don't go on blathering innocently "well that MIGHT be true... or maybe not.." He discusses information thats easily verified. He has a very particular agenda and he's very aggressive about making his case, bully for him, but to defend him as an honest supplier of information is is just an outright misrepresentation and to pretend otherwise is beneath us. So if you're going to defend him then do it based on the real qualities he does possess, but adhesion to facts ain't one of them.

As loony as we may think he is we have to take him seriously - he's a high profile national figure that a lot of people listen to.

Here's what I believe, fyi: Many people believe and listen to the side of a story that supports what they already think. People like Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Rush L know this and will spout stories that exaggerate or misrepresent issues. However easily bebunked they may be, once they've been said on a national forum they're out there and they'll gain traction with the people who want to believe them. And I think the goal of many of these statements, particularly those surrounding the healthcare debate and Obana's origins are not meant to be verifiable, they're meant to excite people, to agitate them. The tactic there is not to win these debates by facts, but to obscure the facts and swamp the debate with emotions.

And, hey, whats with this crap: "Not sure why you are in such a bad place, Patrick, but I hope you work it out. Good luck." Save the croco-troll tears for other forums... nothing P said warrants that kind of statement and you just look silly saying it.

Anyone seen the tea party link in FP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y&feature=player_embedded#t=496&ref=patrick.net

Its amazing, all those idiots just followed what this and some right wing nuts told. They dont want Czars, but when the interviewer confronts them that it was created by Reagan and expanded by Bush, they were speechless.

When you know your viewers are idiots, you can tell anything. Simple!

Patrick,
Stick to blogging housing/financial topics, your site is one of the best ever. The only thing worse than having to vote for these pathetic politicians, is arguing over whether the turd sandwich (Obama) is better than the giant douche (Bush). We live in a corporate plutocracy. One that created the debt bubble disaster that youve helped many people tune into. Obama is more of the same. You voted for a dream, for history. Keep believing in that, and the plutocracy becomes more powerful while we're all distracted by the turd/douche debate raging on and on.

Obama having a deep-seated hatred for white people would make about as much sense as having a deep seated hatred for breathing.

nosf41 says

My opinion is that sitting in a church lead by a racist pastor for 20 years does count as evidence of somebody’s character. For me it is a pretty strong proof where his heart is on the issue of race.

I disagree. It’s very weak proof. Why do you say that his pastor was racist? Because he’s paranoid? Lots of white people are paranoid that blacks are out to get them too. How do you know Obama agreed with any of that?
You think he didn’t like his white mother, or his white grandparents who took care of him? Maybe you just want to believe Obama is a racist. See “projection”, above.

The United States Library of Congress has selected TheObamaFile.com for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials:
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaRace.htm

Patrick,
You seem to have some deep hate for anyone who disagrees with Obama and you now use the small minded debating tool of calling these people rascist. That is just pathetic and to call all or most Beck viewers rascists or closet rascists is about as narrow minded as someone can get.
You add fuel to a debate that takes focus off the facts that Obama has been a big croc of BS and no change has come to the people who elected him. He is by Wall Street and for Wall Street's best interests. He lied to Main Street to get elected and has not stood by his promises. Business as usual in Washington. Dont matter if its Bush, Omaba, Rebublican or Democrat.
Our government is corrupt in every which way. Who do we trust in DC when we dont know who the true devils are.
I agree with the posters up there that you should stick to blogging about housing.
Moe
PS.
You use "projection" all the time and your blog is based 100% on it.

Glenn Beck is a hero. A modern day Paul Revere who is alerting a slumbering America to the detrimental effects of Socialism, Marxism and Communism. He has brought to light a historical perspective that has been hidden from our government education system for decades, even generations. We are reaping what has been sown by the progressive movement, the New Deal and the Great Society. These were nothing more then the few seeking power and control over the citizenry, now serfs, and the complete removal of true liberty and freedom. No free nation (and with America now dead, there are no truly free nations) would employ a burdensome tax code to manipulate behaviour. Yes America is dead and we are only living the illusion of freedom. Kind of like the demise of Rome. The Roman citizens continued to believe Rome was great up to the very end. It was Johann Wolfgang Goethe who said, “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” But I do give credit to Glenn Beck for at least trying. I personally believe the handwriting is on the wall and we will soon have a global currency. Our national soveriegnty will be a thing of the past. Obama has sealed the US-UN relationship (Financial Times Sept 8, 2009) and he will be the 1st President to sit on the UN Security Council. We are doomed but most have their heads buried in the sand and do not want to hear the truth. End time Bible prophecy is unfolding before our very eyes. Obama said he is the answer; he said government is the answer. He is a liar. Look to Jesus Christ as your answer before the final act. We are very, very close. Wake up! Do not trust the government or Obama. They will lead you straight to hell. Wake up. I do not push a religion or a denomination but only Jesus. He alone is the answer; He alone saves. Wake up before it is to late. His coming will be as the days of Noah. It will be a day like any other. Please discern the times. Wake up.

I find it amazing that people would actually try to sabotage Glenn Beck. He legitimately calls out one of Obama's czars (Anthony "Van" Jones for those that only watch mainstream media,) and leftist nuts try to link him to a rape. Show proof. Glenn Beck did of "Van" Jones and he tried to quietly resign on the weekend. I enjoy the site for info on the housing market, but you, Patrick, are showing a particularly high level of ignorance if you are labeling "most" of Glenn Beck's viewers as racist. I'm quite tired of Obama and the Democrats labeling people as racist if they disagree with Obama. The word is losing its meaning thanks to people like you. BTW, Obama's czar Van Jones has said
“The white polluters and the white environmentalists are essentially steering poison into the people of color communities because they don’t have a racial justice frame.”
Sounds kind of "racial," doesn't it? Talking about being accused of "rape?" If I discussed everyone that disparaged me or sued me, I would be giving them a platform they do not deserve. Let's all try to be a bit more even-handed.
Wen

"Generally Glen provides plenty of independently verifiable evidence."

HA HA, HA HA HA HA HA!

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348,00.html

Glenn Beck is laughing all the way to the bank, $23 million dollars last year (and that's what's been reported) - with much more to line his pockets this year. Meanwhile, people who swallow his bitter medicine are panhandling to make enough money to show up to his rallies (and no doubt buy his t-shirts and other official propaganda).

The article also discusses that he's made pro-Obama statements, but that doesn't make him enough money so he's resorting to the fearmongering now.
"The inevitable question is, How much of this industry is sincere? Last year, shortly after the election, Beck spoke with TIME's Kate Pickert, and he didn't sound very scared back then. Of Obama's early personnel decisions, he said, "I think so far he's chosen wisely." Of his feelings about the President: "I am not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of our country ... He is my President, and we must have him succeed. If he fails, we all fail." Of the Democratic Party: "I don't know personally a single Democrat who is a dope-smoking hippie that wants to turn us into Soviet Russia." Of the civic duty to trust: "We've got to pull together, because we are facing dark, dark times. I don't trust a single weasel in Washington. I don't care what party they're from. But unless we trust each other, we're not going to make it."

It appears that he changes his message to line his pockets. And he still hasn't responded to the question: Did he rape & murder a girl in 1990? An innocent man would proclaim his innocence, no matter the cost.

The link to this web site is juvenile as is most of this conversation.

Beck is a blowhard in many ways but, there are plenty on the left too. I listen to them all and maintain my objectivity. I firmly believe there is far too much group think. People should actively seek out those with differing opinions and views and process their message without labeling them nuts because they happen to not support your view of things. Beck has had some decent segments on peak oil and was ahead of the housing and financial crises. Some of us believe he is ahead of the Fed funding bubble now.

"The link to this web site is juvenile as is most of this conversation."

I'm telling my mommy you said that! I don't think she'll let us play together any more!

Patrick

I really enjoy your forum on the housing crisis. But I am very surprised that you've chosen to become so politically opinionated and thus why your donations have been decreasing lately and I'm sure your stats tells the same story as well. I was going to donate, but now I do not want to donate because of your strong bias towards one side.

Housing crisis affects all kinds of folks, both liberal and conservative, you've just managed to alienate about 1/2 of your audience.

I thought you were smarter than that.....remember keep religion, and politics out of this forum, only if it references specific legislation, policies or rulings that would affect the housing crisis.

Mr. Beck was with me that year in a Cambodian prison. He didnt do it.

"How about this one: “Obama has a deep seated hatred of white people”. Beck said that. Beck has no evidence, he’s just throwing it over the fence to try to get Obama to respond. There is no response to that, so Beck can say “see, he won’t respond to it.”

Patrick - Unlike comments from others which did not seemed ordered to a discussion your reference here is at least something we can look into and if you are correct that so be it.

I listen to Glen quite often and your quote from him seems like something he might say. I am sure I can look it up somewhere. But lets grant for the sake of discussion that he said that. The question is - Did Glen Beck provide any evidence for this? I will be happy to look. Just as it doesn't seem plausible that Glen said something like this I dont think it is too implausible that there is not some evidence to back up what he says. Is it disputable that Obama has associated with a number of rascist. I think Van Jones is clearly a racist and he was appointed by Obama.

In any case Ill be happy to take up the challenge and look into your point.

Finally - I think since you are leveling quite a serious accusation that you should have provided references to when Glen made this comment.

Personally I think you've totally misrepresented Glen but lets take your example and look into it a bit.

Maybe ya'll are missing the point, here. The thread is funny! It's satire, aka parody. Patrick didn't create it (disclaimer: to my knowledge, he didn't create it. But by stating that, I'm making an assumption and possibly lying. This statement of deniability is by no means limited to the contents of this thread. I also deny that I had an affair with George Clooney.)

Glenn Beck is dangerous because he's given a national platform upon which he can spout his messages of hatred, lies & innuendo. He uses his platform to push his personal agenda, but that's what Faux News is all about. The more crap he spews, the more people that watch the network, the more money they make and that's what it's all about. Ain't nothin' grass roots about the tea parties, marches, etc. and people are too damn stupid to figure that out. They think they're marching for change - bu they're marching for ratings and money to line the pockets of the owners of Faux News. They're being played for profit.

What I don't understand is why people can spew messages of hate, lies & innuendo, but when anyone disagrees he's the bad guy.

Please put on your sense of humor hat and enjoy the link - it's fucking hilarious!

I couldn't point to Glenn Beck in a line-up.. nor have I ever heard or read anything from him. From the general controversy I've heard about him I assume (perhaps wrongly) that he and anyone who pays attention to him are over-the-edge ignorant fools. I need to move out of this ridiculous country. "Give me you tired, your poor" .. that's bullshit, Western European countries are waaaayyyy nicer to the tired and poor... way nicer. We just poop on 'em here. (and it's worth noting I am neither tired or poor.. I'd be very willing to pay even HIGHER taxes for things like single payer health care -- and I'd vote out at least 80 percent of military spending -- and before any wannabes respond to that.. you'd better be a veteran -- I am)

afghanmaker says

remember keep religion, and politics out of this forum

It's all political. Why should you pay your irresponsible neighbor's mortgage? That's a political question.

The answer to that question, and to our military spending, and to the bank bailouts, and to why our health care system makes little Bobby's parents choose between his chemotherapy or their retirement funds: corporate involvement in government.

Corporations play us and our representatives like a master musician, getting just the right notes to come out to block the public's best interest, and to protect the corporate best interest. Beck is one more instrument in their orchestra.

So, Patrick, do you deny that I had an affair with George Clooney? 'cause I did, I really did. Last night.

And then I woke up.

I wonder if George dreamed of me last night?

And now that I read this article http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2009/09/17/onthejob091709.DTL
I see the guy is right.

The debate is really going on at gut level and insurance reform advocates fail at that level. So... where can we find little Bobby, preferably blond and blue eyed, no, better, a girl, sweet and innocent and very very sick, and her bankrupted parents whose insurance won't cover the treatments? Or who can't get insurance.

That one girl could save Americans from themselves.

elliemae says

So, Patrick, do you deny that I had an affair with George Clooney? ’cause I did, I really did. Last night.

I don't deny it.

Patrick, I agree with afghanmaker. You do seem biased to the left. It seems to me that real estate is in the mess it is in because of leftist gov't policies and programs. Now it is being made worse by more gov't subsidies. Just like FDR made the depression much worse with his Communist programs. It's all about control and it looks like the one worlder's have won. Very soon we will have a new global currency and B.O. has signed a new agreement with the UN. B.O. will be the 1st U.S. President to sit on the UN Security Council. Amazing! It was Johann Wolfgang Goethe who said, “None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” Our liberty and freedom are gone because of the Democrat Party and their leftist/Communist agenda. We are serfs who are manipulated by a gov't tax code that taxes our labor and all we like sheep are led away to ...

Patrick,

What you don't understand is you cannot "project" all of the problems on Beck and others. You list about 5 to 10% of your posts on Beck and others. You are specifically targeting Beck, which is unfair and shows your true identity.

NO ONE can point to one political party and say they are the cause of health care issues, bank bailouts, etc. This is a losing argument if you are going to blame one party or another. What we have is a huge GREED and FEAR issue going on in this country and it is systemic.

I'm a physician and I can tell you that ALL of my colleagues oppose the ObamaCare bill. Yes, we want reform and not some behemoth (~1 Trillion dollars) of a pseudo-socialized medicine that gains very little. I will (and some of my colleagues) re-evaluate my role in medicine should this pass and many will simply retire since they will see more patients, less pay and more taxes, which will make it harder for us to pay our mortgages.

I just wished (and so many others that enjoy your housing posts) that you stop with your one sided political views. I never posted on this forum, but I joined today, because I thought you are wrong and so does other folks, which won't even both posting and worse, take you off their daily visits.

Just for sh*ts and grins, what is the traffic on the Beck links versus the other links you post daily? What has been your traffic lately? This should tell you something - (of course, hoping that I'm correct)

well I just love a guy who can cry on television.