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Old white dudes - deal with it - we really are all basically the same

By marcus follow marcus   2010 Jul 31, 5:18am 9,209 views   88 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


I think that some of the fear and trends in politics, including recent posts about corporate dominance of our government,  can be traced to the older generation of white leaders who just can handle where demographics are headed. It is probably especially true for those who have led sheltered lives, and are now old, and set in their ways, and somehow never truly learned that we are all the same.They never learned what America's greatest strength actually is.

Satire:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-caucasians-will-soon-be-a-minority-in-their,4635/

Report: Caucasians Will Soon Be A Minority In Their Own Goddamn Country

PIKEVILLE, TN—According to Hormel-plant breakroom sources, if the Puerto Ricans and the Mexicans and the Orientals and the blacks don't stop having all those babies, whites will be a minority in their own goddamn country as early as 2010. "Someone looked at the census figures, and on account of how much faster they're multiplying, it's only a couple years before there's more of them than of us real Americans," foreman Ron Nelson announced Tuesday. "They're already making the kids learn Spanish at the high school." According to U.S. Census Bureau estimates, 80.7 percent of the current U.S. population is white.

The truth is more like 2050, but I did hear that as of 2012, less than half all births will be to "white" babies.

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49   marcus   ignore (10)   2010 Aug 4, 12:32am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

I firmly believe radical, leftist, liberalism is in fact destroying this country via their policies.

This country has steadily moved to the right, since at least the 80s. At this point moderate republicans are being forced out of congress. "The middle" is so far to the right of where it was even 15 years ago that I can't believe it.

And we still have the moronic types who can't even scratch the surface of what's going on. If we are doomed, it's because people become so biased with this absurd our team against their team mentality, that democracy no longer works as well as it needs to.

50   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 4, 12:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

elliemae says


yawn. you’re boorish.

Further proof from ellie “I can’t prove Rayray is a Hitler loving racist like I’ve claimed” mae. LOL !!!
Thanks for continuing to prove you are a baseless liar ellie!!

You're welcome, rayray. I don't have to justify myself to you and provide proof of anything. All that one must do is read your many, many posts attacking me and others to understand your agenda. Your inability to accept that people have opinions other than yours and your obvious obsession with me is creepy, really creepy. Your constant personal attacks on me lost their "bite" long ago, if they ever had any.

Antisocial personalities such as yours lack the ability to understand that the world doesn't revolve around you.

I was browsing some previous posts for another purpose and saw some old friends who left the forum - I'm willing to bet that your incessant boorish posts and personal attacks as well as your inability to discuss anything other than your hatred of pretty much anyone who disagrees with you had everything to do with the mass exodus. You are a troll who hijacks every thread, and you obviously feel the need to believe that you have "won" every argument when in actuality people are running away in droves.

You must be so proud. and used to it. Here's a tip, rayray: it can't always be someone else's fault.

51   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 4, 12:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Again, very typical of how the left LIES and gets deeply offended when they are challenged to provide PROOF for their allegations. Elliemae (the leftist) has repeatedly attacked me (the conservative) for being a "racist that hates all blacks," a "Hitler follower, admirer, etc." a "child molester, rapist, etc."

When she is challenged to copy and paste ONE SINGLE statement I have ever made on this site to verify ANY of the above, this is how this LEFTIST RADICAL responds:

elliemae says

I don’t have to justify myself to you and provide proof of anything.

I personally couldn't care less what little elliemae thinks of me. I only post this as an example of how incredibly dangerous the radical left really is. This is the same spirit that gave us the political correctness movement, the Fairness Doctrine, the Hate Speech legislation, etc. If they are not checked, more of this radicalism will be coming our way until America is no longer the "land of the free."

52   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 4, 8:40am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

No copy & paste from elliemae?? Has anyone seen elliemae??

RayAmerica says

Again, very typical of how the left LIES and gets deeply offended when they are challenged to provide PROOF for their allegations. Elliemae (the leftist) has repeatedly attacked me (the conservative) for being a “racist that hates all blacks,” a “Hitler follower, admirer, etc.” a “child molester, rapist, etc.”
When she is challenged to copy and paste ONE SINGLE statement I have ever made on this site to verify ANY of the above, this is how this LEFTIST RADICAL responds:
elliemae says
I don’t have to justify myself to you and provide proof of anything.

53   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 4, 12:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

Has anyone seen elliemae??

Why? Is it time to masturbate again?

54   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 4, 1:33pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

What's wrong, rayray? hands too busy to type out another tired attack on me?

55   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 4, 2:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Bueller....

56   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 5, 1:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Where's the copy & paste ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae?? Having trouble finding where I posted my, according to YOU, "hate for all black people," my supposed "admiration of Hitler, etc." posts??

Your silence is very telling: YOU are in fact an extraordinary LIAR of the worst kind. Right up there with Joseph Goebbels.

57   simchaland   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 5, 5:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

Where’s the copy & paste ellie “I never, ever insult anyone” mae?? Having trouble finding where I posted my, according to YOU, “hate for all black people,” my supposed “admiration of Hitler, etc.” posts??
Your silence is very telling: YOU are in fact an extraordinary LIAR of the worst kind. Right up there with Joseph Goebbels.

I see you found your lubricant. Just make sure you use a towel afterwards to clean up.

58   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 5, 2:42pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

You didn’t copy and paste one single comment made by me, ellie.

how's this?
RayAmerica says

Where’s extraordinary ellie?

I posted my admiration of Hitler , being a racist that hates all blacks, a child molester, rapist, Hate Speech legislation etc. I firmly believe in destroying this country. I post this at the risk of being accused with wild eyed lunacy of being an idiot – on that I agree with you. LOL!

Prepare yourself to be really, really shocked: my wife is white. I have always lived my life by treating people as outsiders - down with those white folks!! Racism is inherent in human nature and is found everywhere in a variety of forms, and mine knows no boundaries.

Hitler Hitler Hitler Joseph Goebbels Hitler Hitler Hitler Joseph Goebbels Hitler

59   simchaland   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 5, 4:32pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Elliemae, stop it! He's going to get raw and end up having a heart attack! Too much excitement!

60   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 5, 11:40pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I'm sure there's some rayray lotion he can use - smooth, lacking in substance. It can blow something out of proportion, magnifying an issue to make it appear larger and more important than it actually is. And it can keep a "subject" alive, even when no one (except rayray) has any interest.

61   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 6, 12:53am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Note: the only answer provided by these demented people is more gutter talk from their gutter brains. SAD. PATHETIC. JUVENILE.

62   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 6, 1:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Ellie "the LIAR" mae actually took the time to write a complete lie. She wrote the above and made it look like I actually posted it. What an incredible LIAR she is.

And then she gets upset when justifiable comparisons are made between her and that notorious LIAR that practiced the exact same tactics, none other than the Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels.

63   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 6, 1:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

I actually posted more gutter talk. What an incredible LIAR, the exact same tactics of the Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels.

;)

64   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 6, 1:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hitler's biggest fan says

Hitler Hitler Hitler Joseph Goebbels Hitler Hitler Hitler Joseph Goebbels Hitler + another Joseph Goebbels

65   simchaland   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 6, 3:35am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hitler's Bubba Rayray says

I actually took the time to write a complete lie. I wrote the above and made it look like I actually posted it. What an incredible LIAR I am.
And then I get upset when justifiable comparisons are made between me and that notorious LIAR that practiced the exact same tactics, none other than the Nazi Minister of Propaganda Joseph Goebbels+Hitler+Goebbels+Hitler+Mengele+Hitler... Uh, Oh, Oh, Oooooh! I love you elliemae!!! Excuse me I have to get some tissues.

66   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 6, 7:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hitler's biggest fan says

Has anyone seen my life? I’m having trouble of the worst kind finding a justifiable comparison between racists and my very good friends Hitler and Joseph Goebbels. I can’t prove or disprove it because I know no boundaries. Why? Because I am a shameless liar. Literally. This is a well known fact- that I lie and slander as if I’m a clone of Joseph Goebbels and then I pretend to play the high moral ground.

Damn, rayray. I am good at cutting and pasting. Thanks for the suggestion. ;)

67   marcus   ignore (10)   2010 Aug 6, 8:02am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Maybe Ray and Elliemae are both actually guys in black suits that are very effectively getting people to not want to read this forum anymore, you know, because of the left leaning views of some posts.

Probably not. But seriously this banter gets really tiring. Couldn't you guys get each other's email addresses and send these ugly messages directly to each other ? I don't believe that anyone wants to see the personal attacks back and forth. I'm not saying that I'm great about following strict protocols, such as never getting off topic,... but jeez.

68   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 6, 12:31pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Okay. I'll do my best to stop. It's so tempting... Rayray will continue to troll the interwebs and hijack threads, tho. And he'll continue to attack me and anyone who disagrees with him, as he's done since he joined the forum. I've never been attacked so much in my life. It's been fun fucking with him, though.

69   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 7, 1:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

elliemae says

And he’ll continue to attack me and anyone who disagrees with him, as he’s done since he joined the forum. I’ve never been attacked so much in my life.

Attack? Ellie "I never, ever insult anyone" mae has repeatedly LIED, saying I am an "admirer, follower of Hitler," said I'm a "racist that hates all black people," has accused me of being a "child molesting rapist, etc.," and yet little ellie claims I’m the one that attacks her. A shrink would have a field day with this one.

I’ve pretty much figured her out though. Ellie really doesn’t hate me. She’s just overcome with her obsession with her idol. It’s a form of idol worship. She’s just love sick over her idol. We get it ellie. This isn’t about hate, it’s a love story. You are in love with Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels, which is kind of creepy, being that he’s like very, very dead, and very, very evil. But, you have every right to love and imitate the little Doctor. Imitation is after all, the highest form of flattery (not an original thought). Every time you tell these huge whoppers, you honor your idol. He sort of “lives” through your lies. In that way, it must seem like a “real” relationship. You have every right to have this relationship. Maybe the two of you can get married? Why not? I'm sure we can find a good judge in San Fran Freako to rule in your favor.

70   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 7, 2:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Just curious - what does this have to do with the Onion newspaper? It's a satirical rag that's been around for 22 years and has a circulation of 700,000. It has won a Peabody, and been quoted in real news articles as a source for such scintillating articles as the one that reported the Harry Potter movies were turning small children into witches.

It's hilarious. Patrick linked to it at one point, in an article about Barbie's housing crisis:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/dollhousing-crisis-set-to-worsen-mean-older-brothe,5890/

71   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 7, 2:36am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

elliemae says

Okay. I’ll do my best to stop. It’s so tempting…

I feel like Michael Scott and "that's what she said..." :)

72   Clarence 13X   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 12, 3:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@RayAmerica

Explain why it is that all executive positions held in America are by white men?

Do Mexicans, Blacks, Asians and Women have any chance in hell at receiving one of these positions. White men hire their friends and family, even with diversity requirements within their organization. Coca Cola company has a diversity requirement of 15% which they claim to meet year end and year out at a whopping rate of 60%, yet when you dive deeper into the facts you find that the divsersity stops once you reach the manager level positions and upwards. For manager levels and up diversity drops to 1%.

What does this tell you? White men are OK hiring blacks, mexicans and women for supervisor level positions and below but you really have no chance in hell of moving upward within a corporate company.

Why is this important? Managers generally make 100K and above, where as supervisors make 50K and below.

With this knowledge it is no wonder that blacks, mexicans turn to gang activity. Their SUPERVISOR parents are too busy working and cannot afford to spend time with the children where as the white MANAGERS can afford to hire their silly nanny's and spend heavily to keep their kids involved in activities that the nourish their minds.

Your racist oppressive mentality needs to change, until then you are a racist who outwardly says one thing but inwardly is only willing to hire your white friends.

Go play with yourself, we could care less about your oppressive views of other ethnic groups.

73   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 13, 1:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

@Clarence

I guess I must have struck a nerve somewhere. Can you direct me to my comments in which, as you claim, proves that I am a "racist who outwardly says one thing but inwardly is only willing to hire your white friends," and that I have "oppressive views of other ethnic groups."
Also, are you saying there are no Black owned companies? Do these companies hire Blacks or Whites as their CEO? Personally, I couldn't care less, but apparently this is a huge issue with you.

By the way, you mention that "all executive positions held in America are by white men." President Obama is the Chief Executive of the USA. Are you recognizing that he is in fact "half white" or are you claiming him to be "white?"

While we're at it, how many whites belong to the Congressional Black Caucus? A very liberal white Congressman attempted to join a short time ago and was turned down. Do you want to know the reason? Because he was white. How do you explain that?

One more little question for you: what is your opinion on "minister" Farrakhan’s depiction of "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE DEVILS?" Do you agree with him? Or do you agree with me that he is a despicable racist?

74   Nomograph   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 13, 2:06am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Clarence 13X says

Explain why it is that all executive positions held in America are by white men?

What the hell are you talking about?

Ronald Williams, CEO of Aetna, black.

Richard Parson, Chairman of Citigroup, black.

Clarance Owen Jr., CEO, Darden, black.

Don Thompson, President, McDonalds, black.

Ken Chenault, CEO, American Express, black.

There are plenty of other executives, from CEO down through lesser executive levels.

Clarence 13X says

Your racist oppressive mentality needs to change,

I've never viewed RayRay as being racist. He seems to hate everyone and everything equally. I will agree that he is a complete idiot who has nothing better to do than post the same specious arguments over and over and over and over again.

75   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 13, 2:45am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nomograph says

He seems to hate everyone and everything equally.

This a typical type of lie that you continue to post. I don't "hate" anyone, as you claim. You can't copy and paste a single post I have ever made that illustrates this supposed hatred, unless of course, you interpret "hatred" to mean any position that differs from yours, which appears to be the case.

Nomograph says

I will agree that he is a complete idiot who has nothing better to do than post the same specious arguments over and over and over and over again.

I can just feel the "love" in this type of statement. The radical left are extremely hypocritical. Thanks for again proving that point.

76   elliemae   ignore (0)   2010 Aug 13, 3:00am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nomo? Radical Leftie? Get yourself a vanity license plate, Nomo.

77   Clarence 13X   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 13, 2:53pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

@Clarence
I guess I must have struck a nerve somewhere. Can you direct me to my comments in which, as you claim, proves that I am a “racist who outwardly says one thing but inwardly is only willing to hire your white friends,” and that I have “oppressive views of other ethnic groups.”
Also, are you saying there are no Black owned companies? Do these companies hire Blacks or Whites as their CEO? Personally, I couldn’t care less, but apparently this is a huge issue with you.
By the way, you mention that “all executive positions held in America are by white men.” President Obama is the Chief Executive of the USA. Are you recognizing that he is in fact “half white” or are you claiming him to be “white?”
While we’re at it, how many whites belong to the Congressional Black Caucus? A very liberal white Congressman attempted to join a short time ago and was turned down. Do you want to know the reason? Because he was white. How do you explain that?
One more little question for you: what is your opinion on “minister” Farrakhan’s depiction of “ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE DEVILS?” Do you agree with him? Or do you agree with me that he is a despicable racist?

Ok, your not a racist....but Obama is 1 F*****N black man out of millions of executive postions available in this country. Plus, blacks gave up hanging out with whites in the 1960s when I was young. The black power movement pushed many blacks backwards because they gave up trying to seek these positions....

The Congressional Black caucaus was formed to address the lack of attention being given to black issues. What would a white man know about black issues? Probably what would a black man know about issues in a trailer park, right?

Farrakhan is a F****N idiot demogogue hating on jewish people, calling them leeches just because he cant find a way to "leech" off the black community and its talents.

78   Clarence 13X   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 13, 2:54pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nomograph says

Clarence 13X says


Explain why it is that all executive positions held in America are by white men?

What the hell are you talking about?
Ronald Williams, CEO of Aetna, black.
Richard Parson, Chairman of Citigroup, black.
Clarance Owen Jr., CEO, Darden, black.
Don Thompson, President, McDonalds, black.
Ken Chenault, CEO, American Express, black.
There are plenty of other executives, from CEO down through lesser executive levels.
Clarence 13X says

Your racist oppressive mentality needs to change,

I’ve never viewed RayRay as being racist. He seems to hate everyone and everything equally. I will agree that he is a complete idiot who has nothing better to do than post the same specious arguments over and over and over and over again.

I stand corrected, Im just a race baiter like BAP said.

79   Clarence 13X   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 13, 3:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

RayAmerica says

Nomograph says


He seems to hate everyone and everything equally.

This a typical type of lie that you continue to post. I don’t “hate” anyone, as you claim. You can’t copy and paste a single post I have ever made that illustrates this supposed hatred, unless of course, you interpret “hatred” to mean any position that differs from yours, which appears to be the case.
Nomograph says

I will agree that he is a complete idiot who has nothing better to do than post the same specious arguments over and over and over and over again.

I can just feel the “love” in this type of statement. The radical left are extremely hypocritical. Thanks for again proving that point.

that is true, i have heard this lable placed on you over and over. I give up, moving to another post....you have my apologies.

80   Bap33   ignore (7)   2010 Aug 13, 3:47pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Clarence 13X says

I stand corrected, Im just a race baiter like BAP said.

shoe fits

81   Bap33   ignore (7)   2010 Aug 13, 3:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Nomograph says

Clarence 13X says


Explain why it is that all executive positions held in America are by white men?

What the hell are you talking about?
Ronald Williams, CEO of Aetna, black.
Richard Parson, Chairman of Citigroup, black.
Clarance Owen Jr., CEO, Darden, black.
Don Thompson, President, McDonalds, black.
Ken Chenault, CEO, American Express, black.
There are plenty of other executives, from CEO down through lesser executive levels.
Clarence 13X says

Your racist oppressive mentality needs to change,

I’ve never viewed RayRay as being racist. He seems to hate everyone and everything equally. I will agree that he is a complete idiot who has nothing better to do than post the same specious arguments over and over and over and over again.

Awesome post Nomo ... humor, fact, a few digs, stood up for an adversary when the attack was incorrect, and showed Clarence to be a racebaitor ... I give it a 9.5 The -0.5 is for the use of name calling (idiot) that is below your ability level for satire. Great post though.

82   Bap33   ignore (7)   2010 Aug 13, 3:51pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

marcus says

Maybe Ray and Elliemae are both actually guys in black suits that are very effectively getting people to not want to read this forum anymore, you know, because of the left leaning views of some posts.

ROFLMAO

83   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 14, 12:47am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Clarence 13X says

that is true, i have heard this lable placed on you over and over. I give up, moving to another post….you have my apologies.

You seem to specialize in applying generalized labels yourself.

84   RayAmerica   ignore (1)   2010 Aug 14, 12:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Clarence 13X says

I stand corrected, Im just a race baiter like BAP said.

Honesty is such a noble trait. Thanks for being honest, Clarence.

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