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857 Bank St, South Pasadena, CA 91030


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2010 Oct 6, 8:16am   4,065 views  10 comments

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How is it possible that this Victorian home in excellent condition(completely rebuilt/remodeled), in one of L.A.'s premier areas with top-ranked schools (City of South Pasadena), got foreclosed for $207K on 6/8/2010 & is now listed at 1.2 million?

That can't be true, there's no way it wouldn't have gotten bid-up at the courthouse steps unless it was a useless no-recourse second mortgage that was trying to scam people into buying it? For God's sake, I would've paid the $207K in cash to get this place at that price..though I'm affraid I would've flushed my money down the drain paying off a useless second mortgage.

Did a bank who was owed more on a construction loan or a first mortgage pay off the second mortgage at the courthouse steps? This is all very confusing. Can someone who has access to the courthouse records or has dealt with foreclosures explain what's going on here?

http://www.susannehayekphotography.com/Bank857mls.html
http://www.redfin.com/CA/South-Pasadena/857-Bank-St-91030/home/7004985

Property History for 857 BANK St

Date Event Price Appreciation Source
Oct 05, 2010 Listed $1,200,000 -- i-Tech MLS #22144241
Jun 08, 2010 Sold (Public Records)
This home was foreclosed and bank-owned. $207,365 -- Public Records
Apr 27, 2001 Sold (Public Records) $298,000 72.7%/yr Public Records
Feb 27, 2001 Sold (Public Records) $273,000 -- Public Records

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1   Patrick   2010 Oct 6, 8:59am  

The banks don't have to sell it on the courthouse steps if their minimum bid is not met, in my limited understanding.

So they set the minimum bid at $1.2 million, no one bids that, and in the end the recorded price is just the amount of unpaid debt, in this case $207K.

Or something like that. Anyone else understand it better?

2   Mark_LA   2010 Oct 6, 9:12am  

But if the unpaid debt was only $207K, then they would've been able to get a loan from even a Hard Money lender.

Anyone would have lent them that amount to allow them to carry the house through a successful sale since the median in 91030 zip code is $472/sq foot, making this home worth $1.5million by that metric. So at $1.2 million that it's listed at, it's a relative bargain.

Had there been no other loan outstanding and clear title, I would've lent them the money with a 20% interest 3 year loan, no credit check required. They would've been better off taking my money than being foreclosed, and if for some wild reason they can't sell it after 3 years and pay me back, then I'll gladly foreclose on them and hope to get no bidders at the courthouse steps.

No, this is all too fishy, anyone care to explain this? How many other loans were outstanding at the time of foreclosure & might still be outstanding?

3   agrifolia   2010 Oct 6, 6:01pm  

I've been using Redloc.com to watch for foreclosures in South Pasadena since May and as far as I remember this property never appeared on that site. I would have been very interested myself.

4   Mark_LA   2010 Oct 15, 5:07am  

agrifolia says

I’ve been using Redloc.com to watch for foreclosures in South Pasadena since May and as far as I remember this property never appeared on that site. I would have been very interested myself.

I've never heard of redloc, are they better than realtrytrac or foreclosureradar?

5   agrifolia   2010 Oct 19, 12:18am  

I actually prefer foreclosure.com but am under a contract with redloc. The latter's interface is straight out of 1995, although the content seems to be about the same between the two sites. Never tried realtytrac.

6   cearka   2010 Oct 19, 2:33am  

yeah that's pretty terrible.
But I think this may be even worse:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Glendale/720-Cavanagh-Rd-91207/home/28667819

345k buys you a small mansion in any other state. Guess in California all you get is an empty plot of land. What a joke.

7   RC2006   2010 Oct 19, 5:30am  

cearka says

yeah that’s pretty terrible.
But I think this may be even worse:
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Glendale/720-Cavanagh-Rd-91207/home/28667819
345k buys you a small mansion in any other state. Guess in California all you get is an empty plot of land. What a joke.

I remember when I first saw this listed, what a joke when you are shown drawings.

8   cearka   2010 Oct 19, 6:12am  

"PRICED TO SELL!"
= slap in the face

"GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR BUILDERS AND INVESTORS. "
= we're slime balls and we hope you're an idiot.

ROFL:ROFL:LOL:ROFL:ROFL
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I facepalm when I see dumb listings. Unfortunately right now that means I'm facepalming alot.

9   RC2006   2010 Oct 19, 7:21am  

On street view it looks like a cliff, on the side of the road. Crazy to build house there with earthquakes, and debris slides.

10   Mark_LA   2010 Nov 8, 4:21am  

Price dropped to $1,150,000 at the end of October.

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