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The Fox News Fear Factory


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2011 Jun 2, 1:32pm   9,974 views  40 comments

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Wow, just WOW. You thought Fox News was a bad partisan hack-job? Just wait until you see how the network is actually run. This article gives an inside view of Fox News in general and the boss, Roger Ailes, in particular.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-20110525?source=patrick.net&page=12

This article from Rolling Stone magazine is just jaw-dropping.

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1   Done!   2011 Jun 2, 1:47pm  

For what it's worth, Fox News is not a Conservative station.
It sole purpose to exist is for Liberal Democrats to watch, talk, write and read about.

But from an Independent perspective, may I? Here let me...

Well first of all, "Pot Meet Kettle!" that Liberal agenda based rag you just linked to. Did an opinionated editorial chocked full of observations and theories or just general fears and suspicions about how he perceives the Fox network as a whole. There was not one shred of poof or facts to back up one single claim in that article that suggest Fox is operating under any pretense other than how they are presented. It's Rollingstone reading more into their motive for their content, and injecting sinister motives for the selection of their content.

You know what, you guys keep watching Fox News, it will make you go blind and grow hair on the palm of your hands. All of the Mental Masturbation you guys do over Fox News.

Here
(TOT hands irrelevant rag no one has read in over thirty years back to Justme.)

2   just_passing_through   2011 Jun 2, 3:14pm  

That's a thread capper if I've ever seen one. Had a mental image of little teeny tiny dinosaur boxing gloves.

4   FortWayne   2011 Jun 3, 12:25am  

marcus says

Btw, I know personally of rich republican types that have Fox on almost 24/7.

What a very intelligent comment, a prime shining example of a CTA union member intelligence. This is one of the many reasons public education is such hooey.

5   tatupu70   2011 Jun 3, 12:59am  

ChrisLA says

marcus says


Btw, I know personally of rich republican types that have Fox on almost 24/7.

What a very intelligent comment, a prime shining example of a CTA union member intelligence. This is one of the many reasons public education is such hooey.

Chris--what happened to your original reply? I thought that was even more intelligent..

6   EightBall   2011 Jun 3, 1:07am  

Tenouncetrout says

Obama Kicked this terd and got shit all over him self by being a smug wise ass, instead of producing the Birth Certificate. The Petty ass dickwad!

Are your meds out of whack today?

7   justme   2011 Jun 3, 4:00am  

APOCALYPSEFUCK says

Obama should be subject to weekly drug tests, too, as he acts like a crystal meth addict.

I would not support a regime that imposed drug tests on people whose otherwise lawful behavior they did not approve of.

Sounds too much like the old Soviet Union, where dissenters were drugged and placed in mental hospitals.

I would think anyone who respects our constitution would agree with me.

8   Done!   2011 Jun 3, 4:03am  

I thought when Glen Beck left, the Liberals would stop watching Fox news.

9   simchaland   2011 Jun 3, 11:14am  

Tenouncetrout says

For what it’s worth, Fox News is not a Conservative station.
It sole purpose to exist is for Liberal Democrats to watch, talk, write and read about.

Tenouncetrout says

You might think “Being Petty” is an ideal quality for a President to exhibit. But not me, not for MY America.

Palin? Anyone?

Tenouncetrout says

Obama Kicked this terd and got shit all over him self by being a smug wise ass, instead of producing the Birth Certificate. The Petty ass dickwad!

shrekgrinch says

See above. How can I refute their words’ actual meaning when they have no meaning at all, as they have ‘communicated’ them?

Is this the "Nominations for the Dumbest Things Read on Patrick.net" thread?

10   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 3, 11:22am  

Here's an news item you'll never see on Faux News (or, on most cable news):

CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez said Thursday he will not to tolerate the presence of Colombian guerrillas in Venezuelan territory, adding that he's confident Colombia's government would in turn capture any opponents conspiring against his government.

"We are not going to allow the presence of any armed group," including rebels, paramilitary fighters and drug traffickers in Venezuelan territory, Chavez said before meeting with former Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva. "We have fulfilled our obligations."

The socialist leader's comments came a day after Colombian President Juan Manuel Santos announced that a top commander of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, was captured across the border in Venezuela.

Venezuelan security forces captured Guillermo Torres, better known by his alias "Julian Conrado," and later contacted Colombian authorities after identifying the rebel leader, Chavez said. Venezuela announced in a statement that Torres would soon be extradited to Colombia.

...

Torres is the most senior FARC commander captured since 2004. He is on the FARC's general staff, No. 2 in the command chain after the rebels' seven-member secretariat, and is also renowned for composing and performing rebel anthems during failed 1999-2002 peace dialogues.

The United States had offered a $2.5 million reward for the FARC leader's capture.

In April, Chavez deported to Colombia an alleged top FARC guerrilla, Joaquin Perez, who was described by Santos as the rebels' most important operative in Europe. Santos had tipped off Chavez to Perez's arrival in Venezuela from Germany.

Chavez expressed confidence that Santos would prevent enemies of Venezuela's government from hatching plots within Colombian territory aimed at forcing his ouster. "I'm sure that they will not allow conspiracies against Venezuela in Colombian territory," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110603/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_venezuela_colombia_rebels

11   just_passing_through   2011 Jun 3, 12:15pm  

This thread cracks me up. First Rolling Stone and then Jon Stewart.

Here is a link that PROVES (no it doesn't) what liar Michael Hastings, a Rolling Stone reporter was when he wrote that damn article about McChrystal that sure helped a lot during a friging war - (thanks Mike!):

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2011/02/27/hastings

Ellie, you sound like my aunt bless you. "I get all my news from Jon Stewart!" I know you didn't mean THAT but whenever I hear people reference Jon it just slays me. Do you really think that guy is funny? I mean, to me he just comes across as a bitter guy with a chip on his shoulder. Now Stephen Colbert (also not a Fox News fan) is genius I can watch that guy all day. But would I consider ANYTHING they said 'news'? Just say'in..

I used to keep Fox news on for background noise at my place daily. I heard the arguments. Nothing about birthers. Now switch over to MSNBC: Keith Olbermann and that Rachel Maddog chicken hawk lady - blah blah birthers, blah blah birthers. Give me a break...

Yup, I know, Fox is full of it they all are. But they sure are a LOT nicer to people on that show (in general, I never liked some of them at all but Megyn Kelly - yum!) and there is a reason they clean up in the ratings. MSNBC, CNN, etc, all pretty much just parrot each other. I'm trying to think of the equivalent to, 'Faux News' using MSNBCCNNPBSNPR - scrabble anyone?

Anyone with a brain on their head knows they all have an agenda. There is no more real 'investigative reporting' anymore. If you want news and facts you don't even need to watch the news. You can get as much as you'll ever get at the water cooler at work. For example: We are bombing someone. There is your fact, news, you're done. Why are we bombing someone? Well, there is the spin baby.

12   marcus   2011 Jun 3, 12:26pm  

ChrisLA says

Marcus says:

Btw, I know personally of rich republican types that have Fox on almost 24/7.

What a very intelligent comment, a prime shining example of a CTA union member intelligence. This is one of the many reasons public education is such hooey.

You do understand how this works right, (context) the comment wasn't meant to show how erudite I am, it was just a response to Tot who has said on several occasions (including right here in this thread) that Fox is only watched by democrats so that they can make fun of what they say. He more than just implies that intelligent republicans don't take it seriously. He's wrong and we all know it. Well, technically it might be true that intelligent republicans don't watch it much. But I guarantee that many mainstream, not just super right wing DBs like you, watch it.

Context Chris, context. But I am impressed with your reasoning. "that's why public education is hooey." I'll just assume you are preaching to some retarded choir out there.

13   just_passing_through   2011 Jun 3, 12:26pm  

So i canceled comcast cable and built a UHF antenna out of scraps for ~$5 which is awesome in the bay area. This means I can't get Fox News anymore unless I pipe it to my plasma TV from my computer. For a good while now I'm watching the local broad casts over 90% of the time. Here is what I get:

100 channels crystal clear
30 of them are in English (WTF?! I guess only 30% of the public speak English)
10 of them are HD
3 of them are 1080i

All of the news and informational broadcasts such as PBS, BBC, etc lean left. Way left in some cases. I literally can't leave a PBS station on for over an hour with out hearing: Americans are bad, white people are bad, slavery this/that, inequality this, men are bad, we screwed the Japanese over in concentration camps, we did this, we did that. Seriously... I start out with maybe a show on Nature (which are often great but a bit leftist at times - tolerable) and get busy doing something else but still listening. I get hit with propaganda over and over and over until about the time I feel like putting on the hair shirt and flogging myself I change to something else.

Sure, don't forget your history or you'll repeat it. But to repeat this stuff over and over and over and over with nothing else in between? Total propaganda.

Heysus Kristos... People are upset with Fox News which is a private station?

14   simchaland   2011 Jun 3, 1:29pm  

Wow, that must be one powerful antenna. I have an antenna with a power booster in Oakland and I get only 58 channels. I'd say that 85% are in English. Your antenna must be so powerful that you can pick up channels in Mexico.

It must be terrible to watch programs that make you think on PBS. I rather enjoy thought provoking programming. I don't get liberal propaganda during nature shows, Suze Ormann, cooking shows, and foreign news programs. Also I never feel like whipping myself and wearing a hair shirt. And I don't seem to get programming that tells me that white Americans and this country are evil. Are you sure that your antenna isn't so powerful that you are getting North Korean stations? I know that signals can bounce across the water...

I'm very impressed that you get so many stations from so far away.

I find our local news to be a joke. It's dumbed down corporate rambling.

At least it's not Fox News... Too bad News Corp owns several of the stations here.

15   just_passing_through   2011 Jun 3, 1:50pm  

simchaland says

Wow, that must be one powerful antenna. I have an antenna with a power booster in Oakland and I get only 58 channels. I’d say that 85% are in English. Your antenna must be so powerful that you can pick up channels in Mexico.

Here's a list pal:

http://www.choisser.com/sfonair.html

Here is the antenna design:

http://uhfhdtvantenna.blogspot.com/

Mine is 1/3 the size his is, also in the attic, also on a rotor and so it's directional. You don't need no stinkin power booster smarmy guy...

16   tatupu70   2011 Jun 4, 12:36am  

shrekgrinch says

Semantics matter. Words matter. I only delight in all the idiots on these forums that don’t know how to properly communicate

See, the thing is, nobody else ever has a problem communicating. It's always you that seems to not be able to understand. As an intelligent person, if I saw that everyone else were communicating perfectly and I was the only one having trouble--I might consider the possibility that it was I that had the problem.

Just something to think about shrek.

17   kentm   2011 Jun 4, 12:57am  

shrekgrinch says

properly communicate

Also, technically, shouldn't that be "communicate properly"?

(trolling, pardon, cheap shot)

18   elliemae   2011 Jun 4, 3:37am  

shrekgrinch says

I only delight in all the idiots on these forums that don’t know how to properly communicate.

I "only delight..." is clearly incorrect, as he purports to delight in all sorts of things on other threads. And the proper wording would be "I take delight in reading the replies of all of the idiots on these forums who..."
Hell, let's take a walk down recent memory lane and review shrek's "proper communication:"
shrekgrinch says

You could have fooled me given how entire posts have been on the subject of me (usually slandered beyond all facts, but that is beside the point). Plus, you have no idea who takes me seriously or not. Have you run a poll on patrick.net users or something the rest of us are not privy to?

You are grammatically incorrect in each of these sentences. Since we're discussing semantics, your first sentence is poorly constructed. The second sentence is incorrect, in that I am able to read and comprehend the meaning of the many posts that you believe to be about you. Given that you believe you're the focus of multiple posts which include statements about you that you believe to be factually incorrect, you have supported my hypothesis that you aren't taken seriously.

shrekgrinch says

Again, you could have fooled me. What planet are you on? Seriously.

And I don’t go for numbers anyway…or for convincing people who shower me with bullshit in lieu of logic or babble in lieu of properly constructed sentences. I go for exposing the frauds on here for what they are to THIRD PARTY people who are reading but not participating in the conversation. If I only convince just *one* person change to their mind, then I have achieved what I set out to do. Besides, all the frauds supply 90% of the dirt I use on them anyway.

Oh, I get it. You're here for the little guy, the one who reads but never participates in the conversation. Since these anonymous, unrepresented people don't post here, how would you quantify your ability to convince them of anything? Do the voices in your head tell you they've been convinced? Have you conducted a poll to arrive at the 90% figure, or did you pull this number out of your ass?

shrekgrinch says

See. I even have achieved my goal with regards to you. I’m happy to have made a difference for you elliemae. I’ll be sure to keep up the good work.

The word "see" is not a sentence unto itself, nor is the word "seriously." In fact, we're able to identify multiple grammatical errors in your writing. Using your logic, these glaring grammatical errors overshadowed whatever it was you were attempting to say, rendering your messages unitelligible and therefore obsolete. But please keep up the "good work," we're just waiting to see it.

shrekgrinch says

It is not that hard.

This sounds like a personal problem to me.

19   simchaland   2011 Jun 4, 5:04am  

Is that ToT taking another bong hit or did he switch to salvia divinorum?

20   elliemae   2011 Jun 4, 5:11am  

simchaland says

Is that ToT taking another bong hit or did he switch to salvia divinorum?

He obviously doesn't realize that this thread is about Faux News. Please don't use such large words with him, Simcha. It tends to confuse him.

21   simchaland   2011 Jun 4, 5:16am  

elliemae says

simchaland says

Is that ToT taking another bong hit or did he switch to salvia divinorum?

He obviously doesn’t realize that this thread is about Faux News. Please don’t use such large words with him, Simcha. It tends to confuse him.
Eschew Obfuscation

Maybe I should have suggested that he switched to smack. Salvia Divinorum are both Latin words and "Divinorum" does have three syllables.

22   Done!   2011 Jun 4, 5:18am  

Typical Liberal fight or flight....
"I'm smart and you're stupid"

If I'm so Goddamn stoned and stupid then why do you Assholes spend so much energy and resources to spin and suppress every damn thing I say?

Isn't there a Sean Hanity Marathon on today?

23   simchaland   2011 Jun 4, 5:23am  

Tenouncetrout says

Isn’t there a Sean Hanity Marathon on today?

I guess you would know better than we do about that.

I get over the air starions only. I hate Comcast and I don't think I'll be calling them to install their faulty and worthless product in my apartment.

But please, do go on. Tell us all about the Sean Hannity Marathon. Is it showing anywhere else but in your drug addled mind?

24   elliemae   2011 Jun 4, 5:27am  

Tenouncetrout says

Typical Liberal fight or flight….

I'm not sure you understand what "fight or flight" means.

Tenouncetrout says

If I’m so Goddamn stoned and stupid then why do you Assholes spend so much energy and resources to spin and suppress every damn thing I say?

I don't spend time, and I certainly don't spend resources, "spinning & suppressing every damn thing you say." I do spend a few minutes trying to decipher what you meant. Oops, too many syllables, so I'll try again.

You make no sense. Your rants are unintelligible. We don't understand your posts. Your lack of ability to formulate a cohesive thought on paper (in this case, online) doesn't lend itself to mutual conversation.

I know that I was redundant, repetitive, and I said the same thing over & over. I hope it made sense in one of the formats I presented.

25   Done!   2011 Jun 4, 5:35am  

Well see, that's your first problem, you shouldn't argue over things you don't understand, with people you don't understand.

26   simchaland   2011 Jun 4, 5:39am  

ToT, may I suggest a place for you to get away from it all for a while? It's free:

Faith Family Farm Ministries Rehabilitation Services Boynton Beach Campus

It looks like it's very pleasant there.

27   elliemae   2011 Jun 4, 5:43am  

simchaland says

ToT, may I suggest a place for you to get away from it all for a while? It’s free:
Faith Family Farm Ministries Rehabilitation Services Boynton Beach Campus
It looks like it’s very pleasant there.

Please take a cab or have your wife drive you, tho. DUI is serious business.

28   Done!   2011 Jun 4, 6:20am  

OK, I'll watch Fox if it means so much to you.

I just turned to Fox News for the first time in a long time.

FYI Ellie Sean Hanity is on right now. I didn't know they are America's News Headquarters, AND America's Election Headquarters. Did you know that? Of course you did, you watch FOX all the time. What's his deal Ellie he seems feisty.
He said Obama patted him self on the back yesterday for the auto bailouts, Hanity says it was Bush that made the auto Bailout.
You Go Sean! It had to be said, right? right? right?

29   elliemae   2011 Jun 4, 7:00am  

Tenouncetrout says

Ellie Sean Hanity is on right now.

I'm glad you have someone to play with.

Tenouncetrout says

Did you know that? Of course you did, you watch FOX all the time. What’s his deal Ellie he seems feisty.

I'm glad you're thinking about me, tp. It's cute. I don't watch Faux News, but I'm a "fox" so I can see where you connect the two.

We're all happy that you're able to focus on anything.

30   Done!   2011 Jun 4, 7:36am  

elliemae says

I’m glad you’re thinking about me, tp. It’s cute. I don’t watch Faux News,

Then how do you know what they talk about all the time?
How could you lead intelligent debate on hear say,
how can you NOT watch FOX and have anything objective to say about it?

They have actually been quite enlightening and entertaining for the hour or so I've been watching so far.

31   B.A.C.A.H.   2011 Jun 4, 7:48am  

I like The Simpson's, it's on Fox. I think King of the Hill, was, too.

I out-foxed Fox and their corporate partners by TIVO'ing past the commercials.

(Ah yes, TIVO, another Californian innovation to help Californians put non-California corporate content on 'ignore'.)

32   Done!   2011 Jun 4, 7:56am  

hey the iFoxnews App is the #1 iTunes free download,
that's ironic even the apple fanboys watch Fox News.

33   B.A.C.A.H.   2011 Jun 4, 8:06am  

I agree, another innovation from California, all the money those California-hating folks spent on those innovations going to China for the cost, and California based company for profit.

It's redistributionist. Kind of like the high gasoline taxes they pay for their inefficient gas guzzlers, subsidizing costs for the gas-sippers.

Keep buying those apple products, and keeping paying those gasoline taxes.

And oh yeh, thank you.

34   simchaland   2011 Jun 4, 6:58pm  

elliemae says

Tenouncetrout says

Ellie Sean Hanity is on right now.

I’m glad you have someone to play with.

I know. Right? He's usually playing with himself.

Tenouncetrout says

hey the iFoxnews App is the #1 iTunes free download,

that’s ironic even the apple fanboys watch Fox News.

Oh well. I have an Epic 4g. I'm using it to post now. Android rules. Fanboys piss me off. It figures that you're a fanboy ToT.

35   elliemae   2011 Jun 5, 3:20am  

Tenouncetrout says

How could you lead intelligent debate on hear say,
how can you NOT watch FOX and have anything objective to say about it?

I don't have anything objective to say about Faux News, never claimed to. I can base my opinion on the multiple statements made by the intelligent reviewers, not-so-intelligent reviewers, and the stoned reviewers. I can also base my opinion on Faux News' admission that the majority of its programming consists of opinion.

I'm happy that you were able to focus on anything for an hour. But your claim of Faux Nes being the number one download doesn't compute, according to Apple th number one download is CNN but I guess that doesn't fit into your paradigm:

http://www.apple.com/euro/itunes/charts/apps/top10appstorenews.html

36   marcus   2011 Jun 5, 3:46am  

The US of Europe ? No, they have the EU.

37   marcus   2011 Jun 5, 3:56am  

elliemae says

according to Apple the number one download is CNN but I guess that doesn’t fit into your paradigm

Yes. That is from Apple and it is CNN #1, and Fox #2 (sad), but that is only news apps right ? Neither one is up there if ranking all free apps, which is what Tot said.

38   elliemae   2011 Jun 5, 3:57am  

Tenouncetrout says

hey the iFoxnews App is the #1 iTunes free download

Don't get your panties in a knot, ten-oz. I couldn't find a link to a site stating that your favorite app is the #1 free download. However, if it is, does it support that faux news is number one, or just number one amongst the people who are too cheap (or can't afford) to pay for real news?

Why are you so angry with me, tpb? All I've done is to point out that you make little or no sense most of the time, and that your grasp on reality seems to be slipping. You constantly blame everything on the liberals and display your anger, however misdirected it might be, at our president and the liberals in California.

You used to make more sense and it's sad to see evidence of brain cells dying or at least resisting the opportunity to deal with reality.

39   MisdemeanorRebel   2011 Jun 5, 6:45am  

Two Fox News guests Ken Blackwell and Ben Shapiro warn of the liberal propaganda dangers of Elmo and Big Bird in Sesame Street; Hannity agrees.

According to these people, Sesame Street:

* Engenders low expectations (???)
* Engenders gender bending
* Places itself between Church and Family in values creation
* Creates dependency on the government (?!?!)
* Creates an environment where making money doesn't entitle you to it (?!?!)

See for yourself:

http://youtu.be/3Ypsojc5vFg

40   elliemae   2011 Jun 5, 7:03am  

Don't you remember the "Bert & Ernie are Gay" controversy of the 1990's?

Stupid shit.

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