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Why is America so backward

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By tovarichpeter   2015 Jun 22, 6:05pm   ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   3 links   2,021 views   15 comments   watch (0)   quote  

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/22/opinion/paul-krugman-slaverys-long-shadow.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

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1   Tenpoundbass   762/763 = 99% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 22, 6:08pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Does he offer any examples or are we supposed to take admonishment for subtleties?

2   lostand confused   150/150 = 100% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 22, 6:28pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

What about male slavery due to the feminazis??

3   Strategist   961/963 = 99% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 22, 6:48pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

tovarichpeter says

Why is America so backward

This article makes a lot of sense. Thanks for posting. No thanks for posting that dumb article on the plight of housing that is not representative of the norm.
If Marcos was your teacher he would give you an "A", but I would give you a "D" only because I am so nice.

lostand confused says

What about male slavery due to the feminazis??

The secret to a long marriage is to be obedient to your female master. Or to make her think her slave is obedient. :)

4   Quigley   340/342 = 99% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 22, 6:52pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

I'd argue that it's mostly about 2nd ammendment rights. The democrats have been consistent in their desire to do away with these rights, and certain states have populations that strongly value them. If democrats would drop their campaign to destroy American rights, they'd find much more support among working class americans of every race. To the point where the GOP woukd become an inconsequential relic!
But they don't actually want to win, just give the impression that there is a competition for votes instead of an intrenched oligharchy.

5   HEY YOU   352/352 = 100% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 22, 10:54pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Democratic & Republican voters.

6   bob2356   427/428 = 99% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 23, 7:43am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Quigley says

I'd argue that it's mostly about 2nd ammendment rights. The democrats have been consistent in their desire to do away with these rights, and certain states have populations that strongly value them. If democrats would drop their campaign to destroy American rights, they'd find much more support among working class americans of every race. To the point where the GOP woukd become an inconsequential relic!

So people just don't care about the 1st, 4th,5th, 6th,7th,8th,9th,and 10th amendments that the GOP has been consistent in their desire to do away with these rights? Only the 2nd amendment matters to certain states populations?

7   finehoe     private mesage   2015 Jun 23, 9:23am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

bob2356 says

Only the 2nd amendment matters to certain states populations?

They think that if the US Army or the militarized police come after them, a couple of shotguns will protect them.

8   HydroCabron     private mesage   2015 Jun 23, 9:44am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

finehoe says

They think that if the US Army or the militarized police come after them, a couple of shotguns will protect them.

It's like that Fwd:>>Fwd: Fwd:>>Fwd:Fwd:, from the "I'm a gun nut and I can't shut up" types, that was making the rounds around 2000, entitled "Today's History Lesson".

Seems some old Japanese general once said there was no invasion of North America because the populace own too many guns. Never mind that in 1942 the rate of gun ownership in the United States was far lower than today, and that the Japanese had no hope of invading anyway, and never planned to, thanks to two facts: 1) No staging area was available near the Pacific coast; 2) the little matter of the U.S. Navy.

A well-armed but untrained populace is no match for an actual army, which is always better armed and better trained.

9   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   823/823 = 100% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 23, 9:50am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

HydroCabron says

1) No staging area was available near the Pacific coast; 2) the little matter of the U.S. Navy.

And not enough Amphib or logistics capability to form a bridgehead with enough divisions to stand a chance at breaking out and making a conquest, even if they did have Hawaii and got past the USN.

10   jazz music   370/370 = 100% civil   private mesage   2015 Jun 23, 11:30am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Thanks to repeal of fairness doctrine coupled with the financial wherewithal to broadcast 24/7 propaganda saturating us with pro-corporate lies on radio, web and TV while legally able to call it news.

... working-class whites were being induced to vote against their own interests by the right’s exploitation of cultural issues. But Mr. Bartels showed that the working-class turn against Democrats wasn’t a national phenomenon — it was entirely restricted to the South, where whites turned overwhelmingly Republican after the passage of the Civil Rights Act and Richard Nixon’s adoption of the so-called Southern strategy.

And this party-switching, in turn, was what drove the rightward swing of American politics after 1980. Racism made Reaganism possible. And to this day Southern whites overwhelmingly vote Republican, to the tune of 85 or even 90 percent in the deep South.

Hysteria producing "cultural issues" like gays, god, abortions, immigrants, guns, and the usual flag-waving xenophobia, all highly emotional, divisive non-wealth control issues, all "dog whistle politics" that leave corporations and enforcement completely unchallenged to amass ever greater power while workers rail against each other even massacring each other in public to the brink of civil war. (justifying ever greater enforcement and surveillance) Meanwhile IMPORTANT demonstrations against the system over oppression by the ruthlessly empowered are discredited by mainstream media reporting as being crazy and extremists.

... Supreme Court gave individual states the option, if they so chose, of blocking the Affordable Care Act’s expansion of Medicaid, a key part of the plan to provide health insurance to lower-income Americans. But why would any state choose to exercise that option? After all, states were being offered a federally-funded program that would provide major benefits to millions of their citizens, pour billions into their economies, and help support their health-care providers. Who would turn down such an offer?

The answer is, 22 states at this point, although some may eventually change their minds. And what do these states have in common? Mainly, a history of slaveholding: Only one former member of the Confederacy has expanded Medicaid, and while a few Northern states are also part of the movement, more than 80 percent of the population in Medicaid-refusing America lives in states that practiced slavery before the Civil War.

11   KatherineLeigh   1/1 = 100% civil   private mesage   Mar 20, 9:52am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

...because progressive approaches to solving the nation's problems are claimed to "kill jobs" and "hurt profits".

12   jazz music   370/370 = 100% civil   private mesage   Mar 20, 10:31am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

We are conditioned by billboard, radio, TV internet and emails a thousand times a day to indulge in conspicuous consumerism.

We are taught that we are not truly enjoying life unless we are out racking up horrendous debt.

Splurges into phony and foolish displays of affluence are the ONLY SACRED ACT you could ever perform in the USA, surveillance and enforcement is lined up everywhere to make sure that no one stands in your way as your are slyly shook down for more than you ever planned to spend thus assuring your fall into abject slavery and assuring your complicit treachery against your fellow man.

We are all made to be self congratulating rats in a trap, jackals and vipers all of us trying to front off like you are a Rockefeller or a Morgan looking at some housewives show on Bravo.

Wiser people look at you just as you would look at the ridiculous pimp in his ridiculous car.

At least the Beverly Hillbillies were cute.

13   Strategist   961/963 = 99% civil   private mesage   Mar 20, 10:35am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

The Pink Panther strikes again.

14   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   823/823 = 100% civil   private mesage   Mar 20, 3:03pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

And not enough Amphib or logistics capability to form a bridgehead with enough divisions to stand a chance at breaking out and making a conquest, even if they did have Hawaii and got past the USN.

This was disliked but it's a fact. You'd need to land about 100,000 in 72 hours to have a hoot in hell of invading the US Mainland by Sea. And then follow up with a million in the next month or so. Remember D-day was supported by a vast logistics train including several Mulberry Artificial Harbors - but only across the English Channel.

Imagine supporting D-Day logistically from the other side of the Pacific or Atlantic. An invader would have to seize Long Beach intact with no damage to support an invasion of the CONUS (and not lose a single supply ship to the USN which would have to be extirpated entirely from the Pacific; nor suffer one crane at Long Beach to be lost from demolition or air attack)

Also, in WW2 the primary mechanism of international travel was shipborne. Nowhere near the tonnage of Ocean capable passenger ships these days.

15   Straw Man   221/221 = 100% civil   private mesage   Mar 20, 4:44pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

HydroCabron says

A well-armed but untrained populace is no match for an actual army, which is always better armed and better trained.

Right. There was one time when actual army, better armed and better trained, went to confiscate some black powder from some untrained populace.... The rest is fucking history.

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