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Wonder how many tapes are out there?

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By HEY YOU   Jan 11, 10:18am   ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   1 link   2,438 views   80 comments   watch (0)   quote  

Penthouse may need more than a $million for the number of tapes that might suddenly appear.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-penthouse-magazine_us_5875c333e4b05b7a465c78de

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41   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   152/152 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 10:15pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

Iwog files personal bankruptcy, fucks over his family, and fucks over how many other creditors, and that's OK..

Trump files BUSINESS bankruptcy 4 times, yet has over 500 business enterprises (which means almost 99% of his businesses are good), and ducky thinks that's bad and shows "poor judgement."

the dumb ass can't even realize the differences between personal and corporate bankruptcy.

42   Rew   196/196 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 10:27pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

between personal and corporate bankruptcy.

To someone running on the credentials of a "great businessman" both matter.

43   iwog   547/547 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 10:34pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

the dumb ass can't even realize the differences between personal and corporate bankruptcy.

Actually I do know the difference. A personal bankruptcy is when someone makes a mistake and ruins his credit. Generally the losers are credit card companies which have bankruptcy losses written into their profit model. Six corporate bankruptcies however shows a pattern of intentionally fucking people over for profit. Romney had the same business model.

One of these means you're human. The other means you aren't qualified to run the country.

44   iwog   547/547 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 10:34pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

So you're denying all of this?

Yeah pretty much Piggy.

45   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   152/152 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 11:21pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

that would be a problem with "ethics" not "judgement."

5/6 of his bankruptcies are due to his failing casinos in Atlantic city. this is due to increasing competitions as more states legalized gambling making Atlantic obsolete.

46   Rew   196/196 = 100% civil   Jan 11, 11:27pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks says

this is due to increasing competitions

Good thing the Presidency of the US has very few competitive challenges and low stakes. Trump will do fine.

47   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 3:59am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

HEY YOU says

Let me help you with your lack of facts that might be reasons to hate trump.

5 TIME DRAFT DODGER?

Murdering & Raping Mexicans?

Grabbing joshuatrio's female loved one's by the PUSSY?

Women who trump would grab by the PUSSY probably have those that love them.

It's cute & clever as long as it doesn't happen to me.

LOL Really? Plenty of the other Presidents (including Dem's) dodged the draft. And regards to your other comments? Just plain stupid. I'd love for you to provide me "legitimate" sources for your bullshit.

48   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 5:05am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"5/6 of his bankruptcies are due to his failing casinos in Atlantic city. this is due to increasing competitions as more states legalized gambling making Atlantic obsolete."

That's not a problem of judgment? He couldn't figure out that more states were legalizing gambling? That's the guy you want to be President?

And he would have filed a personal bankruptcy too if Daddy hadn't walked into one of his casino's, purchased $3MM in chips, and then gone home without playing them.

49   BlueSardine   215/217 = 99% civil   Jan 12, 5:20am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Actually his new online personality is the result of years of nonstop troll bombardment.
The Great Experiment has succeeded!

joshuatrio says

As I've mentioned before: You used to argue with common sense (think old forum) and were at least semi-respectful of others and rational in your arguments. As you've aged though, you come off as a very paranoid, senile aging old man.

50   BlueSardine   215/217 = 99% civil   Jan 12, 5:34am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Damn, you beat me to it...

Ironman says

iwog says

Wow, look at that guy, if you put glasses on him, he would look like this:

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51   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   420/420 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 5:36am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

If there were sex tapes out there, Trump would make a reality TV series out of them and sell ads.

52   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 5:39am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

And he would have filed a personal bankruptcy too if Daddy hadn't walked into one of his casino's, purchased $3MM in chips, and then gone home without playing them.

You're incredibly jealous. Wow.

Like I said before. If my kid had a business and I had the means to help him out, I'd do it. Wouldn't you?

These guys are in business to make money, not lose money. They do this legally. So you're gonna have to get over it at some point.

53   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 5:42am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"You're incredibly jealous. Wow. Like I said before. If my kid had a business and I had the means to help him out, I'd do it. Wouldn't you? These guys are in business to make money, not lose money. They do this legally. So you're gonna have to get over it at some point."

lol. Jealous no. Rational, yes. I choose not to admire someone who best accomplishment was getting born into a rich family.

Of course I'd help my kid. How is that remotely relevant? I'm not knocking Dad for helping. I'm knocking Donald for being an idiot and losing hundreds of millions of $$

54   BayAreaObserver   55/55 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 5:43am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Wow, look at that guy, if you forget about the loan from Daddy, he would look like this...

55   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 6:25am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

I choose not to admire someone who best accomplishment was getting born into a rich family.

Yet, here you are, still ranting and raving about how he was born into money, and dad helped him out.

Taking a million dollar loan from dad, and building a company worth several billion dollar company is a pretty damn good accomplishment if you ask me.

Where's the link for a $250 million dollar loan?

joeyjojojunior says

Of course I'd help my kid. How is that remotely relevant? I'm not knocking Dad for helping. I'm knocking Donald for being an idiot and losing hundreds of millions of $$

It's relevant, because you hate the fact that he was born into a rich family, was given some change from his dad to get started, and actually did something with his life.

Even if he took a loss at some point (which most businesses do go through ups and downs), what's the big deal?

56   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 6:34am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"Yet, here you are, still ranting and raving about how he was born into money, and dad helped him out. Taking a million dollar loan from dad, and building a company worth several billion dollar company is a pretty damn good accomplishment if you ask me. Where's the link for a $250 million dollar loan?"

It was his inheritance, not a loan. But, in reality, Daddy's help was really more in getting Donald all he loans/financing he needed. Banks would never have loaned him so much money if Dad didn't intervene.

"It's relevant, because you hate the fact that he was born into a rich family, was given some change from his dad to get started, and actually did something with his life. Even if he took a loss at some point (which most businesses do go through ups and downs), what's the big deal?"

Why do you keep injecting emotion into this conversation? I don't hate him. And I certainly don't hate him for being born into a rich family.

What I dislike is folks like you or Ironman implying he is some sort of wonderful businessman. And this qualifies him for being President.

57   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   420/420 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 6:43am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

What is really bizarre is Trump took a company that was as good as it gets for the development and maintenance of single family homes and rental housing and forced it to build and operate casinos. Daddy Trump was no saint - Eisenhower went after him for exploiting vets - but he did build and maintain solid housing stock accessible to working class families and did so profitably, albeit with best-terms loans from the government. Rational. Stable. Stepwise. Fucking casinos? You might as well ask a maternity hospital to start building hydraulic braking systems for trains.

58   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 7:44am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

Six corporate bankruptcies

Now we're up to SIX.... How did it jump from FOUR??

59   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 7:46am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

That's not a problem of judgment?

No. it's a BUSINESS decision (something you know NOTHING about). He decided to cut his losses and get out of the shit hole AC, run by the asshole Dems.

60   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 7:47am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

What I dislike is folks like you or Ironman implying he is some sort of wonderful businessman.

joshuatrio says

Taking a million dollar loan from dad, and building a company worth several billion dollar company is a pretty damn good accomplishment if you ask me.

Hey Joey, have you done that same thing?

61   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 7:53am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

Ironman says

So you're denying all of this?

Yeah pretty much Piggy.

OK... denying bankruptcy... You're such a FUCKING LIAR.

March 26, 2013
iwog says

Nope. I was flat broke from age 18 to 21. Worked at Jack in the Box. In 1988 I found a job with AT&T that paid $237 a week and I jumped on it. 6 years later I had worked my way into management and topped out at around $30,000 a year. I was then unceremoniously laid off.

In 1994 I encouraged my wife to open her own law firm. It was moderately successful for a few years, but a poor real estate investment combined with a forced move to Sacramento slammed us into bankruptcy in 1996.

Hey Fuckface, does this bring back any memories (or should I say, prove you're lying.... again?)

62   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 7:55am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"Hey Joey, have you done that same thing?"

Give me $250MM and let's find out.

"No. it's a BUSINESS decision (something you know NOTHING about). He decided to cut his losses and get out of the shit hole AC, run by the asshole Dems."

It was a business decision required because of his poor judgment.

63   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 8:14am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

It was a business decision required because of his poor judgment.

Yes, how could Trump know the Dem leadership in AC would run the city right down the sewer. Doesn't Trump have a crystal ball or a time machine??

64   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 8:19am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"Yes, how could Trump know the Dem leadership in AC would run the city right down the sewer. Doesn't Trump have a crystal ball or a time machine??"

Isn't that his job? To forecast future earnings? To develop best case, most probable case, worst case projections? Otherwise, what the hell is he doing?

65   WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch   387/387 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 8:51am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

That's not a problem of judgment? He couldn't figure out that more states were legalizing gambling? That's the guy you want to be President?

Indian Reservations are Federal. It was the Foxwoods casino of the Pequot Tribe in Connecticut. Nobody expected them to be allowed to host anything other than Bingo games, it was a huge shock when they jumped through all the hurdles. They ended up getting permission and built the biggest casino complex in the world.

66   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 8:55am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

It was his inheritance, not a loan. But, in reality, Daddy's help was really more in getting Donald all he loans/financing he needed. Banks would never have loaned him so much money if Dad didn't intervene.

So what?

joeyjojojunior says

And I certainly don't hate him for being born into a rich family.

Then why keep bringing it up?

joeyjojojunior says

What I dislike is folks like you or Ironman implying he is some sort of wonderful businessman. And this qualifies him for being President.

I never said he was an "amazing" businessman. But he is successful.

67   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 9:05am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

Isn't that his job? To forecast future earnings? To develop best case, most probable case, worst case projections? Otherwise, what the hell is he doing?

You would do well in government work. Never at fault, everyone else is always wrong, and somebody should predicted the future.

Sounds to me like Trump's worst case projection was to cut losses. That was probably a GOOD business decision. Unless you like to bleed cash.

68   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 9:06am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joshuatrio says

I never said he was an "amazing" businessman. But he is successful.

Wait, doesn't every businessman turn a few millions into BILLIONS?

joeyjojojunior says

worst case projections?

Yes, his worse case:

Ironman says

He decided to cut his losses and get out of the shit hole AC,

69   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 10:03am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"Sounds to me like Trump's worst case projection was to cut losses. That was probably a GOOD business decision. Unless you like to bleed cash."

You weren't listening well then. His worst case scenario was being homeless on the streets. He only avoided that because Daddy bought $$millions of casino chips. Otherwise he would have had to declare personal bankruptcy.

"Wait, doesn't every businessman turn a few millions into BILLIONS?"

Nope, and neither did Trump. His businesses returned less than the S&P 500 over the same time period.

70   Tim Aurora   91/91 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 10:08am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

Wait, doesn't every businessman turn a few millions into BILLIONS?

Who says he has billions and how does he earn that. All he does is peddle his name

71   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   420/420 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 10:39am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

He needed the TV shows. Laundering Russian money didn't pay the way it was supposed to.

72   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 10:45am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

His businesses returned less than the S&P 500 over the same time period.

Oh Tatty, why are you still running with that old, tired and failed narrative.

73   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 10:48am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Because I like the truth?

74   Tim Aurora   91/91 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 11:10am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

Oh Tatty, why are you still running with that old, tired and failed narrative.

Just like Trump you brushed it aside. Answer the question.

75   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 11:23am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

His worst case scenario was being homeless on the streets. He only avoided that because Daddy bought $$millions of casino chips. Otherwise he would have had to declare personal bankruptcy.

Mother of god. Let it go. He was never homeless, he was given money, he invested it in his business and has done well for himself.

Whether or not his dad bought casino chips to float him through - so what?

You are one sad, jealous individual.

76   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 12:25pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"Whether or not his dad bought casino chips to float him through - so what?"

Wow--you are a bit dense. I've explained it to you several times already. The fact that he had to be rescued by Daddy because his business acumen was so poor speaks to his judgment and business skill.

77   joshuatrio   23/23 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 12:51pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joeyjojojunior says

"Whether or not his dad bought casino chips to float him through - so what?"

Wow--you are a bit dense. I've explained it to you several times already. The fact that he had to be rescued by Daddy because his business acumen was so poor speaks to his judgment and business skill.

I highly doubt the entire "Trump empire" would have collapsed if his dad had not purchased 3 million in chips. Perhaps one casino, or one branch of his business - but not the entire thing.

I've asked you three times for a link/article showing that his dad gave/loaned him $250million to get started. I'd also like a link/source where his dad bailed him out for 3 million. I never heard the chip story.

78   iwog   547/547 = 100% civil   Jan 12, 12:54pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

joshuatrio says

I highly doubt the entire "Trump empire" would have collapsed if his dad had not purchased 3 million in chips. Perhaps one casino, or one branch of his business - but not the entire thing.

You're dead wrong. Donald Trump was insolvent and faced personal bankruptcy. The only reason he didn't lose everything is that the banks who made personal loans to him in the millions of dollars agreed to take a large loss to avoid embarrassment. There are still banks that refuse to do business with Trump.

Trump's daddy bailing out his casino by buying up chips and not redeeming them was simply part of a larger picture.

79   joeyjojojunior   252/255 = 98% civil   Jan 12, 1:07pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

"I've asked you three times for a link/article showing that his dad gave/loaned him $250million to get started. I'd also like a link/source where his dad bailed him out for 3 million. I never heard the chip story."

So now I have to be your google slave? I promise you there are tens if not hundreds of stories detailing this tale. Just put Trump bankruptcy or Trump's dad buying casino chips or anything remotely close to that. Here's a screen shot.

80   Ironman   854/894 = 95% civil   Jan 12, 1:53pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

Donald Trump was insolvent and faced personal bankruptcy.

Do we have to go through this again, to get it into your thick skull?? "Faced" is NOT the same as "filed"..

Trump negotiated his way out, YOU didn't.

iwog says

is that the banks who made personal loans to him in the millions of dollars

Basic rule of borrowing:

If you owe the bank a $1000, that's YOUR problem

If you owe the bank a MILLION dollars, that's the bank's problem.

So, tell us, how many people and banks did YOU fuck over when you filed??????

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