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How to bring down drug prices

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By tovarichpeter   Jan 11, 11:57am   ↑ like   ↓ dislike   261 views   8 comments   watch (0)   quote  

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-bring-down-drug-prices-post-election/

Martin Shkreli. Valeant Pharmaceuticals. Mylan. These names have become big news, but just a year ago, most Americans devoted little time and attention to the question of pharmaceutical pricing. Now, a Kaiser Health Tracking Poll released Oct. 27 suggests many people care more about the increasing prices of drugs than they do about any other aspect of health care reform.

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1   MMR   257/257 = 100% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 1:34pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

B...b but that might leave your rent seeking son out of job at Genentech

2   Dan8267   1896/1917 = 98% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 2:50pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Much of the public outrage accompanying high drug prices has come in response to companies that raise the prices of old drugs, seemingly only to increase their profits.

That's the entire purpose of business in capitalism. Once again, capitalism does not work for necessities. This is an abject failure.

3   Heraclitusstudent   150/150 = 100% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 2:57pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Dan8267 says

That's the entire purpose of business in capitalism. Once again, capitalism does not work for necessities. This is an abject failure.

Of course it is the entire purpose of capitalism, except that capitalism has a clear mechanism for keeping prices low: this is called competition.

Since there is no competition for drugs under exclusive patents, there is no limit to the price increase.

In other words this has nothing to do with capitalism per say.
It's all about the laws that were carefully written specifically to give big payouts to drug companies.

4   Ironman   1622/1681 = 96% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 3:23pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Heraclitusstudent says

drugs under exclusive patents

Any idea what it costs to bring a new drug to market???

Didn't think so...

5   Heraclitusstudent   150/150 = 100% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 4:53pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

So you mean to say there is nothing wrong with drug prices and drug companies are barely breaking even?

Incidentally PFE also has a dividend payout ratio of 118%, MRK 94%.
Great funding of new research.

6   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   665/665 = 100% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 5:14pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Shkreli is considered a hero of FREE!dom people loving everywhere and the only hope of industry to realize the profits that are due it. There is no reason pharma prices shoulnd't be doubling by the hour.

7   Ironman   1622/1681 = 96% civil   private mesage   Jan 11, 5:19pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Heraclitusstudent says

So you mean to say there is nothing wrong with drug prices and drug companies are barely breaking even?

Have you figured out where that other $10 Trillion is in the Repub budget?

8   curious2   413/413 = 100% civil   private mesage   Jan 12, 11:07am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

MMR says

Genentech

Did Novartis fire him already?

Dan8267 says

Much of the public outrage accompanying high drug prices has come in response to companies that raise the prices of old drugs, seemingly only to increase their profits.

That's the entire purpose of business in capitalism. Once again, capitalism does not work for necessities.

It works most of the time for many necessities, including food, clothing, and shelter. America does not have capitalism in medicine: we have lemon socialism, privatizing profits while socializing costs (including losses). Outrageous increases in the prices of old drugs are only possible because of anticompetitive regulation and collusion, which should be prosecuted instead of mandated. If all drugs were sold OTC in competition with each other, you'd see lower prices and higher quality.

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