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Patrick.net - Welcome to the new politcal correctness forum!!!

By Graybox   Feb 14, 12:22pm   25 links   4,081 views   68 comments   watch (4)   quote      


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29   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 14, 6:03pm  ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike   quote    

30   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 14, 6:05pm  ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike   quote    

31   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 14, 6:07pm  ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Preparing for a BLM rally:

32   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 14, 6:08pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

33   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 14, 6:12pm  ↑ like (5)   ↓ dislike   quote    

34   Dan8267   3221/3266 = 98% civil   Feb 14, 9:28pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Graybox says

Patrick.net - Welcome to the new politcal correctness forum!!!

PatNet politically correct? Now I've heard everything.

I'll believe that PatNet is politically correct when Patrick gets some of that sweet, tight Amazon partner site revenue.

35   Ceffer   742/742 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 1:17am  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

How many infidels do I have to kill to get my own Caliphate franchise?

36   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 1:43am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Dan8267 says

Graybox says

Patrick.net - Welcome to the new politcal correctness forum!!!

PatNet politically correct? Now I've heard everything.

I'll believe that PatNet is politically correct when Patrick gets some of that sweet, tight Amazon partner site revenue.

Lol, thanks for the reality check!

37   mmmarvel   43/43 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 3:58am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Graybox says

No Freedom Of Speech at it's best.....

Sad day for patnet...

Bottom line - you don't know WHAT you're talking about.

38   BlueSardine   657/671 = 97% civil   Feb 15, 5:51am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yeah thats what mysoginists wind up doing...When are you gonna tell us what your broker had for breakfast?

iwog says

Fuck feminism. Fuck it right up the pooper.

39   BayArea   380/380 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 6:25am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Blurtman says

Black women have large asses.

Is there a stronger compliment you can pay a women in this day and age?

40   Blurtman   504/504 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 9:29am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Yes, your ass is fat. In fact, it is fucking immense!

41   Graybox   150/152 = 98% civil   Feb 15, 9:30am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick pissing down our leg with his new Moderated piss on free speech BS. You can't have it both ways Patrick
and your alternate truths don't make it so.

42   zzyzzx   805/805 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 10:35am  ↑ like (6)   ↓ dislike   quote    

43   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 10:38am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Graybox says

Patrick pissing down our leg with his new Moderated piss on free speech BS. You can't have it both ways Patrick

and your alternate truths don't make it so.

What alternate truths?

Just asking you to attack points and not people.

Now if only we could get the press to do that...

44   NuttBoxer   378/381 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 10:44am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Kite
Wap
Spic
Beaner
White Trash
Rapfugee
Chink
Kite
Dike
Fag
NIGGER

45   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 10:48am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

That's all fine, just don't call another patrick.net user those things.

Unless the thread has "thunderdome" in the title. Then it's fine to insult other users in that thread.

46   NuttBoxer   378/381 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 10:57am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

That's all fine, just don't call another patrick.net user those things.

Actually, thinking about it, it's always been much more fun to insult someone's ideas or argument. With most Patneter's there's really no skill required when it comes to insulting our hygiene, sexual preferences, appearance, etc.

47   indigenous   250/250 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 11:06am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

zzyzzx says

Preparing for a BLM rally:

OMG that is too funny

48   mell   63/63 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 11:44am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

I agree with the the nutt and the gray box that this is a slippery slope. Patrick, you don't want to be bogged down deciding what is ad hominem and what not. And if you make it purely automatic people can still flag wrongly all they want on purpose. Didn't ignore work almost flawlessly? I don't think spamming or trolling is a problem, you can just glance over the comments you are not interested in and scroll down or don't read the thread at all. And really, if you don't want to engage with someone 99.99% of the time they eventually give up if you simply ignore them, and the few exception should be considered part of the school of life. Lastly free speech is only truly free if it's free from flagging as long as it is lawful.

49   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 11:59am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

You're right, it is a bit dangerous as a precendent, it's a limitation on free speech, and I don't want to do the work of personally making judgements. Ignore was not really working. People would just come back under alt id's and continue flame-baiting.

I think the original experiment failed, so this is a new experiment: can we all refrain from personal attacks and stick to the point being argued? There is a lot of potential value to be had in giving up the nasty pleasure of direct insults.

And if you really miss insulting other patrick.net users, well, there are now thunderdome threads for that.

50   P N Dr Lo R   361/362 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 2:56pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

can we all refrain from personal attacks

This is going to be difficult for some people.

51   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 3:07pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

(one ad hom from each side deleted)

Jesus, use the thunderdome, guys.

52   iwog   1875/1877 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 3:15pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Patrick says

Jesus, use the thunderdome, guys.

I think things will settle down after a week or two.

53   Tenpoundbass   1169/1171 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 3:29pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

NuttBoxer says

Kite

Wap

Spic

Beaner

White Trash

Rapfugee

Chink

Kite

Dike

Fag

NIGGER

If any sonofabitch calls you motherfuckers any of those words I'll flog the Lot of them!

54   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 15, 3:39pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Bam, yet another personal attack deleted.

Please, use thunderdome or stick to arguments about something other than each other's character.

55   Tenpoundbass   1169/1171 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 5:54pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

zzyzzx says

Preparing for a BLM rally:

I bet Marathon runners would appreciate that pile of bananas.

56   Tenpoundbass   1169/1171 = 99% civil   Feb 15, 5:55pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I could win the Venezuela election with that pile of bananas right now.
And over throw Kim Junk Young.

57   errc   577/585 = 98% civil   Feb 15, 6:51pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

You're right, it is a bit dangerous as a precendent, it's a limitation on free speech, and I don't want to do the work of personally making judgements. Ignore was not really working. People would just come back under alt id's and continue flame-baiting.

I think the original experiment failed, so this is a new experiment: can we all refrain from personal attacks and stick to the point being argued? There is a lot of potential value to be had in giving up the nasty pleasure of direct insults.

And if you really miss insulting other patrick.net users, well, there are now thunderdome threads for that.

What about people too simple to debate ideas? The Simple Simon motherfuckers who can't defend their positions, so they're only option is to attack personally those who do?

Free Speech has no value if One cannot drown out alternative view points with messy noise!

58   NuttBoxer   378/381 = 99% civil   Feb 16, 9:50am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

errc says

What about people too simple to debate ideas? The Simple Simon motherfuckers who can't defend their positions, so they're only option is to attack personally those who do?

Free Speech has no value if One cannot drown out alternative view points with messy noise!

There's a proverb in the Bible that says don't throw your pearls to swine. Translation, don't bother sharing wisdom with dumbasses.

59   rootvg   6/6 = 100% civil   Feb 16, 4:10pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

zzyzzx says

Preparing for a BLM rally:

This is going a bit far even for me.

60   rootvg   6/6 = 100% civil   Feb 16, 4:20pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Tenpoundbass says

NuttBoxer says

Kite


Wap


Spic


Beaner


White Trash


Rapfugee


Chink


Kite


Dike


Fag


NIGGER

If any sonofabitch calls you motherfuckers any of those words I'll flog the Lot of them!

Carpet Muncher

Clitty Licker

Muff Diver: (You just have to have this.)

If that lesbo gets any fatter, she's gonna develop her own gravitational pull!

61   BlueSardine   657/671 = 97% civil   Feb 16, 6:47pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I wanna insult somebody but the thunderdome takes the thill away.
How about a new rule where each user is required to read one thunder dome comment for every 5 sane comments. Of course they would be automatically transferred to the dome. No user action required...

62   Goran_K   446/446 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 8:11am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

I came back after getting Pat's e-mail about the change just to see how compliant people would be. :)

63   Patrick   2078/2078 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 8:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

@Goran_K welcome back! Miss your good insights.

Note that insults are allowed in threads with "thunderdome" in the title.

64   Goran_K   446/446 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 8:31am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

I like to visit once in a while Pat, I'm glad this community is still around after all these years.

65   nobaloney   2/2 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 10:35am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Assuming that this is still about "free speech" on this thread, protecting other people’s self-esteem or emotional states has become important because humans are no longer seen as being able to cope with ‘disagreeable’ words. This has pretty much become the organizing principle on university campuses throughout Britain and America. But the culture of limiting ‘offence’ has only encouraged people to perceive and exaggerate all manner of comments as ‘offensive’. We’ve reached the point where an individual’s subjective ‘hurt’ now triumphs over solidarity with other people. Indeed, solidarity based around work, how most of us are only one pay check away from penury, was once a powerful social bond among the powerless in society.

66   a1sinclair   2/2 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 11:37am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

One sided news is "Fake News" and the mainstream media are the largest offenders. The essence of journalism was to present both sides of the issue. When was this lost? Fox tries to be "Fair and Balanced". CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC and many others are very biased.

67   Rew   759/759 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 4:48pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

a1sinclair says

Fox tries to be "Fair and Balanced".

Fox has a hard right reputation. Undeniable.

When someone says something blunt like "Believe me" odds are you should consider doing the opposite. The same with tag lines and mission statements.

When someone with horrible credibility calls something FAKE NEWS, you can almost guarantee there is very little basis for the accusation. They may point at certain articles, but they will be unable to challenge the actual factual record, the article now challenging them, and sometimes even their own words are against them.

68   a1sinclair   2/2 = 100% civil   Feb 17, 11:40pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Fox has a hard right reputation because the other networks are so unfair and biased to the left. Watch Fox and you will see two sides of most stories (fair and balanced). It is the old style of journalism. Viewership continues to migrate towards Fox from the other networks. The public has come to realize how the other networks have lied "Fake News" about so much and presented a wholly biased opinion instead of facts. You can stick with the other net works but the independents are moving to Fox. That is why Hillary lost the election. These demonstrations by lefties are driving more people away from the democrat party. What the left does not understand is that the private sector must be healthy and if it is not government revenues and the economy weaken. Capitalism works and Socialism does not. Government is a burden on the economy and not an engine. Once you understand that, you realize that we must do more to support the private sector. In the last election, the voters that have jobs and are paying taxes decided that they resent those that are not working and are collecting. They are a burden to the system and we must create more jobs or fail. Soros knows that Capitalism will beat Socialism and the only reason he invests in U S Politics is because he wants to convert us to Socialism so we don't destroy the European economy. Think about it, there is no other reason. He is trying to protect Europe by destroying capitalism in the United States. The secret is not to mandate higher wages but to create more jobs and create more demand for labor. Only 3% of the working population work at minimum wages; it should be called a starting wage. It is critical to get people employed. Higher starting wages just creates more robots more welfare and fewer employed people. Kids that had a job in high school permanently earn more than kids that did not. At the very least we should exempt people under 20 and handicapped people from any minimum wages.

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