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User Civility Score

By Patrick   Feb 15, 9:21pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   139 links   5,605 views   45 comments   watch (1)   quote     share

By each comment, I'm now putting a "civility score", which is the ratio of the user's civil comments to total comments made since Feb 15, 2017.

Civil comments are simply those that do not attack another patrick.net user's personal qualities. You can attack anything or anyone else and the comment is still considered civil.

If a comment does attack another user's character, motive, or other attribute of the user making an argument, use the "ad hominem" link to flag it. It will go into comment jail. Anyone can view comment jail.

The user can edit the jailed comment, and Patrick will get notified of the edit, and then perhaps liberate it back to the thread it came from, also restoring the user's lost civility point automatically.

Eventually I'm going to let the most civil users liberate comments from jail so I don't have to be the judge.

#civility #patnet

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6   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 3:50pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   share  

Since you're all into this "civility" gig and "ad-hom" gig, I think you should go "All In". You now send emails when a poster "likes" a comment or thread. It's time to send the same email when a poster "dislikes" a thread or comment.

If it's civility you want, full disclosure should be the rule.

Posters should know both ways who's "liking" and "disliking" their posts.

7   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 4:19pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Maybe so.

8   jvolstad   130/130 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 4:34pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

I assume that Realtor's are fair game.

9   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 4:42pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

As long as they are not registered users on patrick.net.

10   YesYNot   696/697 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 5:34pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

@Patrick, I noticed a comment of mine disappeared. I'm guessing it was moderated and deleted, but I didn't get any notice. Is that the way it is supposed to work? Seems weird.

11   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 5:39pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Must have been ad-hom somehow, but I don't remember which one it was exactly. Do you remember approximately what it said?

Still working on a log where ad-hom comments will go, so they won't be permanently deleted in the future.

12   YesYNot   696/697 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:44pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

It discussed the demonstrably 'fake news' that came about during the last election and how it made money for the 'fake news' mills by generating memes on Facebook. Now Trump has labeled most centrist / center left news outlets as 'fake news' in his war on the media. I called this the fake 'fake news,' and I probably insulted the general class of people who are repeating this propaganda. It was a pretty long post and I thought it was substantive. If people cannot see what you deem as offensive, they the line will remain blurry.

13   BlueSardine   394/396 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:51pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

What if JaNE is arguing that she is more of an ignorant slut then she is being credited for?

Patrick says

So "Jane, you ignorant slut." is out of bounds.

But whatever point Jane is making is fair game for attack.

14   BlueSardine   394/396 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:52pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

I'm batting 84%. Is there any way I can buy back some of my civility?

15   BlueSardine   394/396 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:53pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Wait I went up a point. I gotta post more.

16   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:54pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Macropodia says

Is there any way I can buy back some of my civility?

Good luck, with the abundance of Special Snowflakes here.

17   jvolstad   130/130 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:13pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Macropodia says

Wait I went up a point. I gotta post more.

I served in the military for 26 years. Say something good about me. That will boost your score.

18   YesYNot   696/697 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:18pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

@Patrick, maybe it would be better to have an initial period where you just put a strike through the posts deemed uncivil, instead of deleting them. That way everybody can see what is getting deemed uncivil. It's a much more transparent way to go.

19   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:31pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Yes, @YesYNot I will start simply moving ad hominem comments to a separate area instead of deleting them. But still updating scores. Then it all be very transparent.

Give me a day.

20   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:36pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

jvolstad says

I served in the military for 26 years. Say something good about me. That will boost your score.

You could probably have made more money and been safer in a private job for those years, so I appreciate your service to the country! Thank you.

21   jvolstad   130/130 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:41pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Patrick says

You could probably have made more money and been safer in a private job for those years

You are probably right.

22   BlueSardine   394/396 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:51pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

You are one of the most reasonable posters here. And no this is not a self serving post.
jvolstad says

Macropodia says

Wait I went up a point. I gotta post more.

I served in the military for 26 years. Say something good about me. That will boost your score.

23   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 8:04pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   share  

YesYNot says

I noticed a comment of mine disappeared. I'm guessing it was moderated and deleted,

Wait, weren't you all FOR a "moderated" forum to control people's "Free Speech". Why does it bother you that one of your posts were deleted?

Maybe you should be careful what you wish for.

24   YesYNot   696/697 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 8:18pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Ironman says

Maybe you should be careful what you wish for.

I don't think I expressed much of an opinion on the moderation topic. It will probably improve the site, so I do think it's a good idea. Getting a comment deleted doesn't change my opinion on the topic, although it was annoying to have a rather long post deleted.

I suspect that I know who will have to change their behavior the most. Unfortunately, I probably cannot say who that is anymore.

25   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 8:29pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

YesYNot says

I suspect that I know who will have to change their behavior the most.

You think Iwog will be able to exhibit self control and make factual posts without attacks? It might be really difficult for him.

26   mell   62/62 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 9:43pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

jvolstad says

I served in the military for 26 years. Say something good about me. That will boost your score.

Thank you for your service!

27   rktbrkr   2/2 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 6:56am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

can't we all just get along?

28   Hater   246/247 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:01am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Patrick says

So "Jane, you ignorant slut." is out of bounds.

Patrick you are a jerk!
Where is my uncivil score?

29   Hater   246/247 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:08am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

How is my score?

30   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:28am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Your score looks good.

31   Tenpoundbass   792/793 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:52am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

So the Ad Hominem button is a virtue signal?
Would it be fair to say anyone that uses it, is virtue signalling again?

32   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:55am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Tenpoundbass says

So the Ad Hominem button is a virtue signal?

Would it be fair to say anyone that uses it, is virtue signalling again?

The only virtue it signals is the ability to attack the point and not the person.

But you can say the most ridiculous politically incorrect things and they will not be classified as Ad Hominem. Try it!

33   Hater   246/247 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 10:04am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Patrick says

Your score looks good.

Don't make me call you an a$$hole!

34   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 10:48am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Lol!

35   Ceffer   412/412 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:28am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

I'm uncivility-impaired, I'll never catch up!

36   Tenpoundbass   792/793 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:34am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Can I still rant about the shitbirds, without singling a single asshole out?

37   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:36am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Yes!

Just try not to identify an individual user.

38   HEY YOU   387/387 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 6:15pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

FUCK THIS!
I'M GONE!

39   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 6:17pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Remember -- any point that a user makes is fair game.

Their personal qualities are not fair game, because they are irrelevant to the point being made.

40   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Apr 3, 10:40pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

The Red Pill on Reddit has a good rule: Do not insult or harass members

That's pretty much what I mean by ad hominem.

41   APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE   671/671 = 100% civil   private mesage   Apr 3, 10:55pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Of course, mine is one of the very few 100% civility scores!

42   komputodo   83/83 = 100% civil   private mesage   Apr 3, 11:20pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

BlueSardine says

What if JaNE is arguing that she is more of an ignorant slut then she is being credited for?

Patrick says

So "Jane, you ignorant slut." is out of bounds.

But whatever point Jane is making is fair game for attack.

Well played.

43   Patrick   1456/1456 = 100% civil   private mesage   Apr 3, 11:25pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

Of course, mine is one of the very few 100% civility scores!

Amazing but true!

44   Ceffer   412/412 = 100% civil   private mesage   Apr 4, 12:43am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Does this mean when Iwog is set upon and macerated by mobs of Immense Hirsute Lesbians in Berkeley, I can no longer point out it is his own damn fault?

45   Dan8267   2019/2042 = 98% civil   private mesage   Apr 4, 8:04am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   share  

Ceffer says

mobs if of Immense Hirstue Lesbians in Berkeley

Worst idea for a porno ever!

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