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Press conference from the Twilight Zone

By iwog   Feb 16, 12:18pm   ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike (5)   25 links   3,764 views   85 comments   watch (1)   quote     share

Who knew that a new president could claim unqualified success in everything before his nominees are even sworn in?? I guess every other president in history was simply doing it wrong.

Donald Trump’s combative, grievance-filled press conference, annotated
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/02/16/donald-trumps-grievance-filled-press-conference-annotated/?utm_term=.df92223afd3f

Notable quotes:

"I turn on the T.V., open the newspapers and I see stories of chaos. Chaos. Yet it is the exact opposite. This administration is running like a fine- tuned machine, despite the fact that I can't get my Cabinet approved."

"I'll give you an example. I called, as you know, Mexico. It was a very, very confidential, classified call. But I called Mexico. And in calling Mexico, I figured, oh, well that's -- I spoke to the president of Mexico; I had a good call. All of a sudden, it's out there for the world to see. It's supposed to be secret. It's supposed to be either confidential or classified, in that case. Same thing with Australia. All of a sudden, people are finding out exactly what took place. The same thing happened with respect to General Flynn. Everybody saw this. And I'm saying -- the first thing I thought of when I heard about it is: How does the press get this information that's classified? How do they do it? You know why? Because it's an illegal process and the press should be ashamed of themselves. But more importantly, the people that gave out the information to the press should be ashamed of themselves, really ashamed." (apparently he forgot that the information came from the president of Mexico)

TRUMP: Where are you from?
QUESTION: BBC.
TRUMP: Here's another beauty.
QUESTION: That's a good line. Impartial, free and fair.
TRUMP: Yeah. Sure.
QUESTION: Mr. President...
TRUMP: Just like CNN right?

#trumphump #politics

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46   Rew   414/414 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 5:02pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

So which is it, do they work for the "red, white, and blue", or just for the "blue" (team)?

You can't have it both ways to suit your narrative (today).

I think you wrongly assume going against Trump, de-facto, makes you part of the blue team. A good civil servant will not only support whatever factions and agendas are put forward by their leadership, they will also challenge it where they believe they need to, and in some circumstances they may be insubordinate and attempt to sabotage an agenda they believe is a threat to America.

The CIA and FBI aren't a bunch of "yes" men. Blind allegiance isn't what our Democracy values.

47   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 5:16pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (3)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

I would absolutely argue that Donald Trump made it very clear before he was elected that he was incompetent, uniformed, stupid, undiplomatic
These were all crystal clear before America's unwashed went to the polls.

Yes, crystal....

48   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 6:22pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

49   Blurtman   329/329 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:11pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

This is a grotesque failure of democracy.

You are looking at the aftermath. I am describing what led up to it.

50   BlueSardine   393/395 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:30pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

It's patently obvious Blurt man has dominated and won this exchange going away...

51   landtof   36/36 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 7:49pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Trump's platform emphasizes renegotiating U.S.–China relations and free trade agreements such as NAFTA and the Trans-Pacific Partnership, strongly enforcing immigration laws, and building a new wall along the U.S.–Mexico border. His other positions include pursuing energy independence while opposing climate change regulations such as the Clean Power Plan and the Paris Agreement, modernizing and expediting services for veterans, repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act, abolishing Common Core education standards, investing in infrastructure, simplifying the tax code while reducing taxes for all economic classes, and imposing tariffs on imports by companies offshoring jobs. He advocates a largely non-interventionist approach to foreign policy while increasing military spending, "extreme vetting" of immigrants from Muslim-majority countries to preempt domestic Islamic terrorism, and aggressive military action against ISIS. His positions have been described by scholars and commentators as populist, protectionist, and nationalist.

52   Rew   414/414 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 8:16pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

If ducky really wants to make a anti-Trump point, he should post Fox News links.

Fox News:

:)
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/319985-fox-news-anchor-defends-cnn-reporter-who-asked-about-russia

53   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 8:31pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rew says

Fox News:

Shepard Smith is a gay Liberal, he belongs at CNN, bad choice to use as an example. You'll have to do better.

54   iwog   952/953 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 9:09pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Blurtman says

iwog says

This is a grotesque failure of democracy.

You are looking at the aftermath. I am describing what led up to it.

I have published many times on the fact that some on the left have lost their mind, are no longer liberal, are no longer the good guys. I also recognize that this is a big reason why Trump won.

However these unwashed people are not revolutionaries and they aren't standing on moral grounds and they aren't competent to even vote in the first place. The mob is almost never right and they should have been smart enough to either abstain from the election like I did or vote for Clinton. Casting a vote for this monster will damage the nation going forward. Probably in ways that cannot be repaired.

55   Rew   414/414 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 10:26pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

bad choice to use as an example. You'll have to do better.

I see. The goal posts ever shifting. So now not only must be a right wing news outlet, it must be the 'right type of person' too? When you decide on hair color and favorite sport the media person has to have to be credible, let me know.

My impression is the only "source" you would listen to is one you agree with.

56   Rashomon   266/266 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 16, 11:45pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Trump's verbal diarrhoea over one state/two state was probably even worse than this latest debacle.

57   PCGyver   285/285 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:00am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

I would absolutely argue that Donald Trump made it very clear before he was elected that he was incompetent, uniformed, stupid, undiplomatic even as he applied for the job of head of state, and had demonstrated his love of lying about almost everything. These were all crystal clear before America's unwashed went to the polls.

Apparently, where it counted, people disliked Hillary more.

58   iwog   952/953 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:11am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

PCGyver says

Apparently, where it counted, people disliked Hillary more.

When you vote for your feelz instead of your brain, bad things happen.

59   bob2356   431/432 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:21am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

But more importantly, the people that gave out the information to the press should be ashamed of themselves, really ashamed." (apparently he forgot that the information came from the president of Mexico)

"Boy, I love reading those WikiLeaks!" Donald Trump Nov 4th 2016.

Is this the same donald trump that was praising leaks before he was elected?

60   bob2356   431/432 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:28am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rew says

My impression is the only "source" you would listen to is one you agree with.

You are just figuring this out now? A little slow on the uptake.

61   bob2356   431/432 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:42am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Ironman says

iwog says

I would absolutely argue that Donald Trump made it very clear before he was elected that he was incompetent, uniformed, stupid, undiplomatic

These were all crystal clear before America's unwashed went to the polls.

Yes, crystal....

A whole 22,000 people. OMG. That's not very many. Burlington stores is dead last on the fortune 500 and has 28,000. Should Tom Kingsbury the head of burlington stores be president instead since he has more employees? I'm sure he has bigger hands also.

You do know the federal government has 2.8 million employees don't you?

62   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   868/868 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:43am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rashomon says

Trump's verbal diarrhoea over one state/two state was probably even worse than this latest debacle.

Time for the two state solution is now passing. The Palestinians had been made several good offers in the past 20 years, but each time they walked away and doubled down on terrorism instead of a making counter-offer. The world never penalized the Palestinians for walking away from the table.

There is probably one chance, but to succeed there has to be aid cuts, travel bans of Fatah and Hamas members, and other sanctions for refusing to negotiate. Not just the usual "Blame Israelis."

Only a slim majority of Palestinians and Israelites want it. And increasingly, a large number of Americans don't want it, almost a plurality now. One of the big problems is that when Palestinians hear "Two-State Solution" they think not just ALL the pre-1967 border, but additional lands reducing Israel to basically a strip on the Coast.

63   Rashomon   266/266 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 1:00am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

It's an extraordinarily complex issue with huge regional ramifications and doesn't warrant the blathering and ill-informed comments produced by Trump:

“I’m looking at two-state and one-state and I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like...”
“I can live with either one. I thought for a while it looked like the two-state might be the easier of the two – but honestly if Bibi, if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I’m happy with the one they like the best...”

Does he even know what one state potentially means? His spiel isn't funny anymore, if it ever was.

64   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   868/868 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 2:43am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rashomon says

blathering and ill-informed comments produced by Trump:

“I’m looking at two-state and one-state and I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like...”

“I can live with either one. I thought for a while it looked like the two-state might be the easier of the two – but honestly if Bibi, if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I’m happy with the one they like the best...”

Does he even know what one state potentially means? His spiel isn't funny anymore, if it ever was.

Lead if Obama said it: "President wisely insists on broad, multi-lateral agreement on any solution adopted between Israel and Palestine. Nobel Peace Prize winner leaves door open for any kind of agreement."

65   lostand confused   155/155 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 5:45am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

it looks like the lefties are doubling down on their election strategy-good. Don't change, don't try to understand-double and triple down-very, very good. They used to say Obama was the master of 8th dimension chess.Hahahaha!!

66   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:10am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rew says

I see. The goal posts ever shifting. So now not only must be a right wing news outlet,

Sorry, every one in the media knows Shepard Smith is a gay Liberal, why do you think you selected that as your example?

Maybe you should search for some Megyn Kelly clips, I'm sure they'll help you prove your (non-existent) point.

Rew says

My impression is

That's what gets you into trouble here every day. You really need to focus on FACTS instead of your "impression".

67   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:11am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (2)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

bob2356 says

A whole 22,000 people.

Please tell us Bobby, how many employees did Obama have in his organization/business that made him qualified to be President and showed he had management experience to run the government.

68   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:13am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

When you vote for your feelz instead of your brain, bad things happen.

Yep, that EXACTLY how we got Obama... The need to have the first "black" president.

69   Rashomon   266/266 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 7:29am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Lead if Obama said it: "President wisely insists on broad, multi-lateral agreement on any solution adopted between Israel and Palestine. Nobel Peace Prize winner leaves door open for any kind of agreement."

Utter nonsense. If Obama had done what Trump did, then he too would have been lambasted. Unfortunately for you, Obama was actually able to grasp the details and handle himself in front of the press.

70   Ironman   1673/1732 = 96% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 8:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rew says

Ironman says

Either is WaPo, AP, NYT...

AP : centrist

http://www.allsides.com/news-source/associated-press

@Rew, time for you to find a new source then AP for your daily intake of FAKE news:

White House Blasts "False" AP Report That 100,000 Troops Will Round Up Illegal Aliens

AP reported that according to a draft 11-page memo, the Trump administration is considering mobilizing as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up illegal immigrants. However, the White House quickly slammed the agency’s report is “false." In yet another leak-counterleak example of "spot the fake news" , moments after the AP report hit, the White House denied everything
-


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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-17/trump-considers-mobilization-100000-national-guard-troops-round-unathorized-immigran

71   FortWayne   210/212 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 8:40am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Liberals who hate America sure love to hate Trump for his patriotism.

72   indigenous   248/248 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 9:15am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

This article is apt to this thread.

Obama endorsing subversion even mayor Garcetti endorses this BS, an army of unwitting zombies.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/02/14/lefts-alinsky-plan-destroy-trump-administration/

73   Entitlemented   174/174 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 9:42am  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

How was relationships with Russia in 2009?

How was relationships with China in 2009?

How many islands (Rock outcroppings) had occurred in 2009?

How many rapes and mass murders in EU by terrorist in 2009?

How big was Boka Harrum kidnappings going on in 2009?

How many dictators in the Middle East were on their back foot in 2009?

How many Dictators had we given open support to in 2009?

Leaving out these global and known facts that this mess has been created but must be fixed by another makes this thread a fallacious thread.

74   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   868/868 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 9:44am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Rashomon says

Utter nonsense. If Obama had done what Trump did, then he too would have been lambasted. Unfortunately for you, Obama was actually able to grasp the details and handle himself in front of the press.

Ah, incompetent now. No more Hitler? Or is it Incompetent anti-semitic misogynist Hitler Russian-Puppet?

How did Obama's insistence that Bibi stop settlements for months - which he did beyond the period Obama requested - help the Peace Process? What was the result?

Then, as a parting gesture, against the platform of BOTH Dem and Rep parties, in the last days of his office, colluded with the Palestinians not to veto a one-sided anti-Israel UN resolution for the first time in 50 years. The media covered this huge Norm Violation only superficially.

Trump could say "Freshly cut grass smells nice" and the media would make a smear out of it.

75   Entitlemented   174/174 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 9:51am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Obama was actually able to grasp the details and handle himself in front of the press.

This is 180 degree wrong. The press giving a break to every sin of Obama willfully sat by while our Military is smaller than it was 50 years ago, all the incursions by ISIS into every continent, China and their takeover of altols and projection of military might.

The press and Obama believed their false rhetoric just as they believed the rhetoric the press created that "Hillary has this by 3-8 points" - "shes picking out drapes". Same false observations and collusion with traitors, the press, and the president, and the democrats. These 3 put the US National Security in worse shape that it was in the Cold War.

Obama had no foreign policy - none whatsoever (save for dozens of drone strikes, and getting OBL when he had coordinates).

76   iwog   952/953 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 10:17am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

FortWayne says

Liberals who hate America sure love to hate Trump for his patriotism.

So now you've added "the press" to all the other people who hate America.

At what point do you start to wonder if the country is too dangerous and go into hiding?

77   Lashkar_i_Trumpi   868/868 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 10:51am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Look on the bright side Folks.

Imagine the alternate reality where this was a Jeb! press conference.

Better than Ambien.

78   Quigley   366/368 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:14am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

iwog says

So now you've added "the press" to all the other people who hate America.

This is old news. Wake up ducky! The press has been wildly and rabidly against any candidate for public office with a nationalistic or populist platform for a good two decades at least! Starting with Ross Perot, they made sure to smear and slam anyone who talked sense to working people.

79   marcus   435/436 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:30am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Quigley says

talked sense to working people

Is that what they're now calling what Trump did to get the Presidency ?

80   indigenous   248/248 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:34am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

marcus says

Is that what they're now calling what Trump did to get the Presidency ?

You bet

81   indigenous   248/248 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:35am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Imagine the alternate reality where this was a Jeb! press conference.

Not to mention a continuation of the 4th branch of government, and of all things insidious.

82   iwog   952/953 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 11:49am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

Quigley says

This is old news. Wake up ducky! The press has been wildly and rabidly against any candidate for public office with a nationalistic or populist platform for a good two decades at least! Starting with Ross Perot, they made sure to smear and slam anyone who talked sense to working people.

There's a massive gap between having a clear understanding of modern politics while holding liberal views, FAR better than you have BTW due to being in the middle of it all the time, and hating the country while working to destroy it.

This good versus evil nonsense needs to die. On both sides. I don't believe Trump has evil intent and I don't believe the press is reporting Trump as having evil intent. I believe the press is ACCURATELY reporting on the incompetence, the chaos, the ignorance, and the arrogance of Donald Trump.

83   Rew   414/414 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:11pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

marcus says

Quigley says

talked sense to working people

Is that what they're now calling what Trump did to get the Presidency ?

Funny, I would have called it: "Opportunistically riding a populist message based on simplistic anger and fear."

84   Tenpoundbass   792/793 = 99% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 12:15pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

85   Rashomon   266/266 = 100% civil   private mesage   Feb 17, 2:02pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote   top   bottom   home   share  

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Ah, incompetent now. No more Hitler? Or is it Incompetent anti-semitic misogynist Hitler Russian-Puppet?

How did Obama's insistence that Bibi stop settlements for months - which he did beyond the period Obama requested - help the Peace Process? What was the result?

What? Settlement building clearly hinders any potential peace process, so... And as I said, I don't recall Obama walking back a several decades long US foreign policy in a couple of befuddled sentences unlike Trump. If Obama had done that, the press would have obviously pulled him up on it.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Then, as a parting gesture, against the platform of BOTH Dem and Rep parties, in the last days of his office, colluded with the Palestinians not to veto a one-sided anti-Israel UN resolution for the first time in 50 years. The media covered this huge Norm Violation only superficially.

The US abstains from a motion condemning Israeli settlement building, a motion which was supported by every single other member of the Security Council. That isn't changing what the US government had demanded, that is finally standing up for what it had been demanding all along whilst not being mealy-mouthed about it anymore by never voting against Israel. And that abstention, by the way, got a huge amount of coverage.

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