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Dershowitz: Even if Russian Collusion happened, there's no Crime

By TwoScoopsMcGee   May 18, 6:02pm   1 link   401 views   13 comments   watch (1)   quote      

The good news is obvious. Robert Mueller is a good choice to become the special counsel investigating the Trump campaign and administration. The bad news is that a special counsel is the wrong mechanism for conducting an investigation that will uncover the whole truth.

The mandate of the special counsel is to “prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation.” But the accusations directed at the Trump campaign and administration are not primarily criminal. Accordingly, they fall outside of the jurisdiction of the special counsel.

Consider the worst-case scenario that the Trump campaign worked closely with the Russians to ensure his election. It probably didn’t happen, but even if it had, there would be nothing criminal about it. It would be wrong and voters would be right to consider this and make them pay a political price. But it is not the role of the special counsel to expose wrongdoings — only to investigate and prosecute crime. And not all wrongdoing is criminal: coordination with the Russians is simply not a crime.

The same is true of providing Russians with secret intel that may have endangered sources and methods of an ally — Israel. It was wrong, but it was not a crime. The special counsel has no jurisdiction to investigate or prosecute this important blunder — if it occurred.

Finally, there is the allegation of obstruction of justice growing out of President Trump’s firing of FBI Director James Comey and his alleged request to Comey to “let it go” with regard to his fired national security advisor Michael Flynn. None of this, in my view, rises to the level of criminal obstruction, because all of the president’s actions were within his constitutional and statutory authority. But even if it were a crime, it is unlikely that a sitting president could be indicted and prosecuted for what is alleged against Trump.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/334100-opinion-a-special-counsel-is-the-wrong-way-to-uncover

I guess given all the money and connections and favors politicians have done for and received involving foreign governments like Saudi Arabia, I guess it isn't a crime, even if it did happen, which it probably didn't.

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1   Patrick   1754/1754 = 100% civil   May 18, 6:06pm  ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Starting to think the stock market will realize that Trump is as strong as ever and buy back in.

2   TwoScoopsMcGee   1165/1165 = 100% civil   May 18, 6:08pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

Starting to think the stock market will realize that Trump is as strong as ever and buy back in.

That's a great point, if every time it seems that it gets closer to impeachment, the Stock Market goes down...

3   joeyjojojunior   487/490 = 99% civil   May 18, 6:10pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

That's a great point, if every time it seems that it gets closer to impeachment, the Stock Market goes down...

Are you surprised? It's probably people selling Goldman Sachs stock.

4   Strategist   1249/1252 = 99% civil   May 18, 6:59pm  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Patrick says

Starting to think the stock market will realize that Trump is as strong as ever and buy back in.

That's a great point, if every time it seems that it gets closer to impeachment, the Stock Market goes down...

Thereby creating a buying opportunity.

5   Graybox   101/103 = 98% civil   May 18, 8:01pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

Starting to think the stock market will realize that Trump is as strong as ever and buy back in.

You got it, the stock market technically is still on solid ground..
Or you can take the analysis of the dumb ass who thinks it's time to buy gold again...

6   Fucking White Male   227/228 = 99% civil   May 18, 8:40pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Im still waiting for someone to identify the crime.

7   Strategist   1249/1252 = 99% civil   May 18, 8:47pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Fucking White Male says

Im still waiting for someone to identify the crime.

The crime was........Calling it a crime when it wasn't.

8   freespeechforever   50/55 = 90% civil   May 18, 8:59pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick REALLY is neck deep in the Trump kool-aid - WOW!

Drink it all in, Patrick, but make sure not to get it up the nostrils!

It's amazing that the more Trump reveals his total and complete ignorance and propensity towards incompetence and criminality, the more you seem to bro-crush on him.

9   BlueSardine   510/517 = 98% civil   May 18, 9:08pm  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

It's a total libby triggerfest.
Who would not want to sit around and egg that bitch on...

freespeechforever says

It's amazing that the more Trump reveals his total and complete ignorance and propensity towards incompetence and criminality, the more you seem to bro-crush on him.

10   Patrick   1754/1754 = 100% civil   May 18, 9:20pm  ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

TRUMP!

TBH I have to say I enjoy triggering people, but only if they are too easily triggered. It's fun only when it's easy.

11   Patrick   1754/1754 = 100% civil   May 19, 8:53am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Patrick says

Starting to think the stock market will realize that Trump is as strong as ever and buy back in.

That's a great point, if every time it seems that it gets closer to impeachment, the Stock Market goes down...

Thereby creating a buying opportunity.

Lol, looks like the buying opportunity is passing already.

12   Tenpoundbass   963/964 = 99% civil   May 19, 8:56am  ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

This has been my position all along. The Cold War ended, Russia isn't a mortal enemy of the United States or Hillary Clinton would have ended up in front a Leavenworth Firing Squad.

13   Straw Man   321/324 = 99% civil   May 19, 9:19am  ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Tenpoundbass says

Russia isn't a mortal enemy of the United

Putin disagrees. Here, right from the horse's mouth in Dec 30, 2015 interview: "По-прежнему, наш главный геополитический противник — США и коллективный Запад." Which translates to:"As before, our main geopolitical adversary is the United States and the collective West."
Nothing fucking changed.

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