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European support group to arm EU citizens

By SpecialSnowflake   Jun 10, 11:49am   3 links   453 views   4 comments   watch (0)   quote      

https://carrynow.eu/

Among the most common lies of the anti-gun babble is that widespread defensive concealed carry (and widespread gun ownership “tout court”) would be the cause for a surge in violence and crime, with possibly disastrous effects on society.

European countries like Switzerland and the Czech Republic however, being at the top of all rankings for civilian gun ownership per capita and at the bottom with regard to gun crime and violent crime in general, illustrate perfectly that this could not be further from the truth.

The mere thought that a potential victim COULD put up armed resistance to an attack is often enough to deter a criminal or terrorist, who generally seek out “soft” targets, from acting on their intent. Tightly gun controlled nations like Britain, France or Germany however, present potential attackers with an abundance of such soft targets in “gun free zones”, as has tragically been proven time and again in Paris, Nice, Berlin, London, Munich and many other places across the continent.

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1   SpecialSnowflake   Jun 10, 12:18pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

"OUR DEMAND
THE MINDSET OF OUR DECISION-MAKERS, AT A NATIONAL AND EUROPEAN LEVEL, HAS TO CHANGE DRASTICALLY.
CURRENTLY, EU POLITICIANS ARE DEBATING WHETHER TO FURTHER TIGHTEN THE GUN CONTROL STRANGLEHOLD ON LAW-ABIDING EUROPEAN CITIZENS BY BANNING SEVERAL CATEGORIES OF FIREARMS AND IMPOSING RESTRICTIONS ON OTHERS, AS WELL AS ON SOME TYPES OF DETACHABLE MAGAZINES.
THIS IS THE POLAR OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE CONSIDER TO BE THE PROPER ANSWER. NOT ONLY SHOULD ALL DEMANDS AND PROPOSALS FOR THOSE RESTRICTIONS BE DROPPED OUTRIGHT, BUT THE GOVERNMENTS OF THE EU MEMBER STATES AND THE AUTHORITIES OF THE EUROPEAN UNION SHOULD ESTABLISH THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT FOR LAW-ABIDING, RELIABLE AND TRAINED CITIZENS TO CARRY A FIREARM FOR EFFECTIVE SELF-DEFENCE AGAINST IMMINENT OR ONGOING ATTACKS AGAINST THEIR LIFE, BODILY INTEGRITY OR PROPERTY."

2   bob2356   Jun 11, 10:48pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Straw Man says

European countries like Switzerland and the Czech Republic however, being at the top of all rankings for civilian gun ownership per capita and at the bottom with regard to gun crime and violent crime in general, illustrate perfectly that this could not be further from the truth.

So you are advocating strict swiss gun laws including mandatory military service for all males? Some large percentage of guns in switzerland are in the homes of military reservists, everyone is in the reserve until something like 40. Those guns don't have any ammo. The ammo is stored at the army armoury. How deterred are violent criminals by guns with no ammo do you suppose?

3   SpecialSnowflake   Jun 12, 7:23am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

bob2356 says

Straw Man says

European countries like Switzerland and the Czech Republic however, being at the top of all rankings for civilian gun ownership per capita and at the bottom with regard to gun crime and violent crime in general, illustrate perfectly that this could not be further from the truth.

So you are advocating

Me?

4   Goran_K   Jun 12, 8:34am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Straw Man says

Among the most common lies of the anti-gun babble is that widespread defensive concealed carry (and widespread gun ownership “tout court”) would be the cause for a surge in violence and crime, with possibly disastrous effects on society.

This is a huge lie. Over a 20 year period from 1993-2013, gun ownership has doubled. Gun homicide has been reduced by half (per capita) during the same time period.

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