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HOW TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM CORPORATE RULERSHIP

By jazz_music   Jan 11, 8:30am   4 links   1,698 views   22 comments   watch (2)   quote      

Things to think about: how to take back America from corporate rulership. Some people have been thinking about this for years now.

I do not claim to be the expert with all the answers but perusing the links below you can tell that others have given the American plight a lot of thought and time.

Ralph Nader wrote some astute observations posted here:
TAKING ON THE CORPORATE GOVERNMENT IN AN AGE OF SURRENDER
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Nader/Corporate_Govt_Nader.html

Clearly Donald Trump is a pitch-man, his status as wealthy highly questionable, certainly Trump exploits outrage and racial prejudices to advance his rise to power along with his cabinet who are all principal world-class plutocrats. Except for their figurehead Trump, we now will experience direct rule by the plutocracy in the White House. This is certainly a first.

DEFINITION
plutocracy, n. 1. government by the wealthy 2. a government or state in which the wealthy rule 3.a group of wealthy people who control or influence a government 4.a controlling class of rich men - plutocrat.
plutocrat, n. 1. a member of a wealthy ruling class; hence, 2. a person whose wealth gives him control or great influence. 3. [Colloq.], any wealthy person.

The situation is never hopeless. Just a few years ago it was a felony in Wisconsin for a corporation to make any political contributions. Such fearful legislation may seem paranoid to you, but there are many wise and concerned Americans who prevailed once upon a time.

Note there are legal underpinnings these corporations rest upon that the people have rights to CONTROL.

HOW TO OVERTHROW CORPORATE RULE
http://www.corporations.org/solutions/

HOW UNITED STATES ISN'T A COUNTRY BUT A CORPORATION
http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm

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1   HEY YOU   Jan 11, 9:02am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

BOYCOTT!

2   jazz_music   Jan 17, 4:42pm     ↑ like (3)   ↓ dislike   quote    

And stop using the expression corporate welfare because what corporations really do is subsidy abuse and extortion of our taxes.

Big corporations have thousands of lobbyists. Thousands of them!!! Their job is to make sure taxpayers get NOTHING from paying taxes except to add to corporate bottom lines.

Start focusing on powerful these white collar criminals and corporate crime or get used to being poorer every year and blaming your fellow man in need.

3   errc   Apr 12, 4:52am     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

This is Neil Gorsucks America now. Lay back, and try to relax a bit. We're in for a serious reaming, the less you resist, the less it hurts

4   Strategist   Apr 12, 8:03am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

jazz music says

Things to think about: how to take back America from corporate rulership. Some people have been thinking about this for years now.

Someone, please remind the Pink Panther that communism failed a long time ago.

jazz music says

I do not claim to be the expert with all the answers

We know, Jazz. We know.

5   jazz_music   May 7, 11:15pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

We know.

LOL You are not a "we" you are a troll.

If you knew nothing that would be a big improvement on your situation, like most trolls, you are here for LULz.

So thanks, for reminding me that capitalism fails now.

6   bob2356   May 8, 3:43am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

jazz music says

Things to think about: how to take back America from corporate rulership. Some people have been thinking about this for years now.

Someone, please remind the Pink Panther that communism failed a long time ago.

What relevance does the fall of communism have to the ever increasing plutocracy of America?

7   BayAreaObserver   May 8, 3:50am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

8   BayAreaObserver   May 8, 4:07am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

what corporations really do is subsidy abuse and extortion of our taxes.

Some States Spend Billions on Economic Tax Incentives for Little or No Return

By one estimate, state and local governments spend at least $45 billion a year on tax breaks and other incentives to lure or keep job-producing businesses and plants in their jurisdictions.

New York, for example, plows billions of dollars into the Empire State Development Corp. and Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s signature Start-Up NY program. For more than three decades, Florida has offered an array of tax incentives to businesses that locate, invest, and hire in the state’s distressed areas through an initiative called the Enterprise Zone Program.

Colorado provides as much as $4 billion a year in economic incentives and deals to enhance the state’s economy. And Michigan once dangled highly lucrative incentives to attract major Hollywood stars and top directors to make such movies as “Batman v. Superman” and “Red Dawn” before GOP Gov. Rick Snyder pulled the plug on the venture in 2015.

But while these tax credits, exemptions, and property tax abatements are popular tools to create jobs, attract new businesses and strengthen the local economy, they also constitute high-risk investments that can squander billions in tax dollars without always paying off.

A new study by the Pew Charitable Trusts offers provides a wide-ranging look at the way many state officials handle these costly programs in recent years. While the ultimate success of these incentives often hinges on good planning by state officials and follow-up measurements of the impact and efficacy of the programs, Pew researchers found that many states have fallen well short of what was needed.

Indeed, the study found that 23 states either lack a smart evaluation policy or have had a policy in place for five or more years that has not proven effective in measuring impact or adequately informing state lawmakers and other policy makers of what needed to be done.

Full Article: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/05/07/

See Also: https://patrick.net/1301542/2017-01-18-mega-takes-the-shine-off-maga-for-michigan-taxpayers

9   BlueSardine   May 8, 5:45am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

This of course assumes that america wants to escape corporate rulership.
Given the other world alternatives, you better be careful what you wish for...

jazz music says

HOW TO TAKE BACK AMERICA FROM CORPORATE RULERSHIP

10   bob2356   May 8, 5:57am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

BlueSardine says

This of course assumes that america wants to escape corporate rulership.

Given the other world alternatives, you better be careful what you wish for...

Like the oecd's awful socialist countries where you get 6-8 weeks paid vacation a year, higher education, and health care?

11   Fucking White Male   May 8, 6:26am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

So easy to take America back from your desk while hitting the flask every now and again.

12   jazz_music   May 8, 1:32pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

as long as you are working day and night you are golden.

Comes a day when you better be able to live without much money

13   iwog   May 8, 3:34pm     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Strategist says

jazz music says

Things to think about: how to take back America from corporate rulership. Some people have been thinking about this for years now.

Someone, please remind the Pink Panther that communism failed a long time ago.

Someone please remind jazzoff that we don't live in a binomial universe. Everything is not either a 0 or 1. Teddy Roosevelt, a Republican, saw the need to prevent corporations from exerting too much power in the federal government and the economy. That's still the case and the lack of antitrust enforcement over the last few decades is part of the reason wages aren't keeping up.

14   Heraclitusstudent   May 8, 3:53pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

All ways requiring concerted actions by human beings will fail because it is just too easy to manipulate people, turn them on each other and watch them as they bicker on message boards - while you rob them blind.

Communism ended not because of opposite ideas (capitalism and the like). No, it ended because these ideas were put in practice and then pushed to their ultimate conclusions. No one liked the consequences. Then they were discarded.

The same needs to happen to capitalism.

The problem people should think about is not how to throw out the current system, but rather what to put in its place. Because right now we don't have a good replacement candidate.

15   someone else   May 8, 5:29pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

@"jazz music" the answer is publicly financed congressional campaigns.

There are plenty of people with integrity would would run and win if they could only get the financing without selling out. Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

But of course no one in congress is going to vote for publicly financed campaigns, because every single one of them was elected under the corporately financed campaign system we have now.

16   jazz_music   May 8, 7:28pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

@"jazz music" the answer is publicly financed congressional campaigns.

that's a finger in a dyke, there are other leaks.

17   BlueSardine   May 8, 8:06pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

If one wanted to fight the corporations, the most expedient way would be to unionize the buyer.
Organize and form purchasing groups in every city.
Direct purchases of products from manufacturers that espouse your world view.
Given the varied communicative options, this may not seem as wild as it looks.

18   Entitlemented   May 10, 7:12am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

We need to transform the Country from a Capitalist/Corporate based private sector to a larger public sector. Having a large public sector controlling these Corporation surely would be more fair to the people and create more prosperity.

Its been done before: http://alphahistory.com/russianrevolution/bolshevik-economic-policy/

Or not?

19   jazz_music   May 20, 11:39am     ↑ like   ↓ dislike (1)   quote    

Entitlemented says

We need to transform the Country from a Capitalist/Corporate based private sector to a larger public sector.

Maybe but you're never going to sell something that's called a Bolshevik economic policy, yikes!

20   TwoScoopsMcGee   May 20, 11:41am     ↑ like (1)   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

There are plenty of people with integrity would would run and win if they could only get the financing without selling out. Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

Sorry Patrick, but I disagree with you on this one. The two big parties, State-by-State, would create so many regulations and exclusionary rules, only the Party backed Insider Candidate would be able to access the funds.

"To access financing, candidate's party must have qualified to be on the ballot in the past 3 elections and collect 200,000 signatures, etc. etc."

Also, a lot of the wealth generated by doing the Corporate Will comes in the forms of speeches, board memberships, etc. after the term of office is over.

21   Heraclitusstudent   May 20, 5:11pm     ↑ like   ↓ dislike   quote    

Patrick says

Publicly financed campaigns is the way to do that.

But of course no one in congress is going to vote for publicly financed campaigns, because every single one of them was elected under the corporately financed campaign system we have now.

Exactly. Since it can't be done it's not a solution.

22   Booger   May 20, 5:28pm     ↑ like (2)   ↓ dislike   quote    

HEY YOU says

BOYCOTT

It's hard to boycott when all of your choices are made in China, or all of them hire h1b's. That's why we need import duties and no h1b's. We should also not be importing anything from countries that use child labor, do not have or enforce environmental laws, or do not allow workers to organize.

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