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2013 Sep 6, 3:24pm   27,002 views  68 comments

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Apple has been strangely quiet since iPhone 5. Everyone knows Sep-Dec is Apple domination quarter and for end of 2013 it will be especially plentiful.

Here is what a lot of people expect:

Iphone 5s with IoS 7. More to follow on the Cupertino event in details. There is no shortage on news anyway. over the course of 2013, HTC one, Moto X, BBRY, Galaxy 4S came out and none were blocckbuster hits, people will buy the 5S.

Iphone 5C. The midmarket smartphone. Apple lost market share due to ignoring the non-premium market. Well this should turn the tide. It will canabalize the 5S but getting back some lost market share is extremely important to Apple. My feeling is they want to be in 30% market share range and this had to be made to get those customers. Will it be a China/India/Indonesia phone? I don't see the C in North America.

Ipad 5: Still the king of Pad's for good reasons. While everyone has different taste for phones, everyone has the same taste for Ipads. Natural upgrade cycle is coming.

Ipad Mini with Retina: The perfect kids machine and the newly developing school market.

Phone deal with China mobile and other carriers. LG, Samsung, Huwei, etc, have benefitted from a lack of lower-priced product. Well, it should be the end of that. The 5C is built for the Asia market that the majoroty of customers favor.

Apple had an "off" year with no new product in 2013 so far and stil made 50B pre-tax. Well, you know Apple have Sep circled and will have a huge season. At least history has proven itself and brand equity is still strong.

Technically, Apple is poised to enter what is a known as a golden cross, a surefile accumulation signal. Last Nov, it was the death cross and predicablt went down another 25% upon hitting the cross. I expect 25% upside @500 and target $625 in 3 months. Apple doesn't follow market trends anyway so even if you are worry about Syria, Apple is still a great long. Call activities have significant premiums for those looking for Dec/Jan calls and not worth it.

If you have extra investable cash, I will just buy shares straight up for a fantastic risk/reward proposition.

Good luck.

disclosure:

55 shares long at $498.

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48   FortWayne   2013 Oct 26, 3:12pm  

Vicente says

How's her near sight? Mini better value but challenges my 40+yo eyes.

Good point, certainly makes the case for the bigger one.

49   hanera   2013 Oct 26, 5:53pm  

FortWayne says

Vicente says

How's her near sight? Mini better value but challenges my 40+yo eyes.

Good point, certainly makes the case for the bigger one.

I'm buying iPad Air for sure. Eyesight bad.

50   hanera   2013 Dec 4, 8:16am  

$565

51   Vicente   2013 Dec 4, 8:47am  

China issued 4G LTE TDD licensing today

If this means 5S and 6 come to China Mobile, then targets will have to be revised upwards.

My portfolio is heavy on AAPL lately, a source of both joy & worry.

52   Vicente   2014 Apr 28, 2:52pm  

Still long AAPL, wondering if it is headed past 700 before it split.

53   clambo   2014 Apr 28, 3:06pm  

Apple makes about $2000/second profit.

54   anotheraccount   2014 Apr 28, 5:55pm  

Here we go again. The latest run up has all to do with financial engineering and not fundamentals. Steve Jobs would have never taken on debt to buy back shares of the company.

iPads are getting killed by competition (the only times I buy iPads anymore is when they are on huge sales). As US carriers move off subsidy based models, the average price of an iPhone will drop below $500 over the next three years to four years. It will be much harder to make serious profits.

55   zzyzzx   2014 Apr 28, 11:41pm  

tr6 says

Steve Jobs would have never taken on debt to buy back shares of the company.

I always thought that was questionable move. Having said that I believe Apple is doing that because they want to keep their cash untaxed in foreign accounts.

56   Vicente   2014 May 5, 6:57am  

Crossed 600 again today, first time since late 2012.

57   EBGuy   2014 May 12, 5:14am  

Accessorize!

58   BoomAndBustCycle   2014 May 12, 6:22am  

tr6 says

Here we go again. The latest run up has all to do with financial engineering and not fundamentals. Steve Jobs would have never taken on debt to buy back shares of the company.

iPads are getting killed by competition (the only times I buy iPads anymore is when they are on huge sales). As US carriers move off subsidy based models, the average price of an iPhone will drop below $500 over the next three years to four years. It will be much harder to make serious profits.

Nonsense... Schools only buy IPADS... The subsidy model is not going away. It's just not! Companies love the long contracts.. and the only way to sucker people into long contracts is with subsidies to hardware. They can hide all kinds of fees in your monthly bill that way!

Apple is gonna come out with an iWatch soon or some other wearable tech that will drive an IPHONE-like adoption. IPHONES will continue to advance and eventually everyone will get rid of their wallets.. and use IPHONES to check out at the grocery store and buy things.

I don't know about you.. But i wouldn't trust an open-source program like Android with my credit card information. The nice thing about Apple's walled garden.. is it makes breaches of that wall much more difficult and easier to fix.

Apple is also going to have a music streaming service and probably some sort of deal with Comcast that puts an Apple TV Box in every subscribers home.

The bad news for the consumer is you aren't ever gonna get ALA Carte Television. Most likely the internet is going to become more and more like your Cable subscription in cost and access to what you want. Apple will definitely get it's piece though.

In less than 5 years everyone will have an Apple designed DVR of some sort... with SIRI voice activation, guestures and works seamless with your IPAD or IPHONE if you like. Your cable bill will still be $100 a month... but it will work much better and do more for you atleast.

59   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 May 16, 3:12am  

People keep talking like Android is the minority product, when it has the greatest Smartphone/Tablet market share and gained it very early in the Smartphone wars.

Android is now about 81% worldwide, with Apple at 16% and Windows at 3% of the smartphone market:
http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows-phone/23904/windows-phone-stuck-3-world-market-share-time-call-android

Apple TV has been launched several times, every time it fails to gather steam, Apple claims it was just testing the waters.

Proprietary Software is less robust than open-source software simply because of the numbers of people that can find and close vulnerabilities. There is always the temptation of Prop Software owners to conceal or delay fixing a problem, especially if they have a "Perfection" Culture where they think their poop don't stink.

60   Vicente   2014 May 16, 3:27am  

thunderlips11 says

Proprietary Software is less robust than open-source software simply because of the numbers of people that can find and close vulnerabilities.

I used to believe this too, waving around my copy of Cathedral and the Bazaar.

However, this gross oversimplification doesn't always hold up. Take the example of OpenSSL, a deep underpinning of all Internet commerce. For YEARS it had a major flaw which nobody looked at, and the few authors who were looking at it were just scraping by with no money for audits. This idea that all this wealth of people and money would NATURALLY kick in flatly didn't work. I see this more and more, as IT is chronically bid down to least possible expense. More open source software will be USED but not properly maintained.

61   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 May 16, 3:58am  

Vicente says

However, this gross oversimplification doesn't always hold up. Take the example of OpenSSL, a deep underpinning of all Internet commerce. For YEARS it had a major flaw which nobody looked at, and the few authors who were looking at it were just scraping by with no money for audits. This idea that all this wealth of people and money would NATURALLY kick in flatly didn't work. I see this more and more, as IT is chronically bid down to least possible expense. More open source software will be USED but not maintained.

Interesting, thanks for this point, Vincente. It's nuances like this I love to find out about.

Having OpenSSL dependent on contracts for revenue is a strange model. One would think they would insist on some kind of commercial fee. Given the prevalence of the software, even a very modest fee would be enough to supply far more resources to the organization!

(And I see the mystery disliker has arrived at your post).

62   Eman   2014 May 19, 10:30am  

After gapped higher in late April and has been consolidating the gains in the last several weeks, looks like AAPL is making its move.

AAPL should get back some market share from Samsung with its iPhone 6. My guess is AAPL will hit $700 by this Christmas season.

63   Vicente   2014 May 19, 1:35pm  

thunderlips11 says

Having OpenSSL dependent on contracts for revenue is a strange model. One would think they would insist on some kind of commercial fee. Given the prevalence of the software, even a very modest fee would be enough to supply far more resources to the organization!

Ah but it's Open Source!

I've been to seminars with Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation. After reading Eric Allman "Cathedral and the Bazaar" many years ago I was a True Believer(tm) in Open Source and FSF ideals. It's the kind of thing that worked great in the 90's, and even into the millenium. That was when money flowed like water for IT projects and plenty of IT people had free time to do interesting stuff.

Used to be lots of companies might have a few hotshots where some time was carved off to contribute to cool OSS. Now however we all get cut to ribbons on budgets, you want to contribute to SNMP? Fine, do that on your own time! You want to take a junket to a big conference and rub elbows? Forget it!

I really do love the ideals, and would like to see all code be freely available. However the promise of OSS just isn't playing out.

Relevant article:

http://veridicalsystems.com/blog/of-money-responsibility-and-pride/

It's a sort of Tragedy of the Commons, and it will only get worse. How do I put this.... everyone that's a US citizen and still employed, wants to work on the Next Big Shiny Thing. Anything that smacks of infrastructure if maintained at all, is farmed out to H1B or Chindia and those people generally don't give a crap about doing anything beyond what is required to collect the paycheck before moving on to the next contract.

64   swebb   2014 May 19, 3:08pm  

thunderlips11 says

People keep talking like Android is the minority product, when it has the greatest Smartphone/Tablet market share and gained it very early in the Smartphone wars.

I'd be interested to see a chart that breaks out post-purchase revenue (app store / itunes / whatever) by device type. I strongly suspect that even with a fraction of the install base that apple whips the shit out of android. Just a hunch, though.

65   zzyzzx   2014 Jul 11, 1:58am  

Obligatory:

66   Vicente   2014 Jul 28, 5:30am  

Meanwhile I am still long AAPL in a large way. I expect it to top $100 soon.

In keeping with the animated gif can of worms you opened:

67   Eman   2014 Jul 28, 10:11am  

E-man says

SFace says

yes, the Iphone 5C is too expensive. Can't crack the asian market with that price tag.

Well, the good news is everyone should download the new Ios7 update on Sep 18th. It would be a good chance to see what improvements are made to the software side of it.

I see it differently. This is an opportunity to buy AAPL stocks before it resumes its uptrend. I was hoping for a pullback to $485, but here it is sitting near its 200 DMA. Back up the truck & load it up.

:0) AAPL is 40%+ higher now. Sweet. :0)

68   Vicente   2014 Aug 19, 4:50am  

AAPL passed $100 today. Runup before iPhone 6?

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