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Democrat thrown in Jail for refusing to issue a gay marriage license.


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2015 Sep 3, 1:19pm   28,045 views  60 comments

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http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/

This is the America we live in now.

Yet when elected officials in San Francisco refuse to follow the law on sanctuary cities which actually results in people being killed, they aren't even fined.

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40   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Sep 4, 11:16am  

socal2 says

We should show gay people tolerance and love, but we shouldn't be celebrating their condition as being ideal or even equal when it comes to raising families.......which used to be the main reason behind the institution of marriage (at least in terms of the interest of the State).

Separate, but unequal. Tolerate them and show them some love, but not as equals - more like the way you would love your dog or even a slave if that were still allowed. Yes, that sounds about right.

41   socal2   2015 Sep 4, 11:20am  

YesYNot says

Tolerate them and show them some love, but not as equals

In terms of marriage and raising families - yes.

If you are a State adoption agency and you have a heterosexual and a homosexual couple wanting to adopt a child. If all things are equal between the 2 couples in terms of finances, education, housing, school district etc,........isn't it a no-brainer that it would be better to adopt to the heterosexual couple?

42   HydroCabron   2015 Sep 4, 11:23am  

socal2 says

The Muslim should lose their job or be reassigned to a position that doesn't conflict with her religious beliefs. Not thrown in jail.

This is an elected position. She can't just lose her job. Contempt of court is the only path here, and it's quite constitutional.

There is no hole in the system on this one. I understand that you don't like the call, but at this point you're just working the refs when the replay shows nothing to complain about.

socal2 says

Gay marriage is a NEW THING for civilization.

So were driving and voting (for women) at one point. Back then, county clerks and governments did their jobs or were fired or jailed in contempt, as appropriate.

Our republic has decided, through a Constitutional process, that gay marriage is legal. There is nothing to argue about here.

43   lostand confused   2015 Sep 4, 11:29am  

socal2 says

The Muslim should lose their job or be reassigned to a position that doesn't conflict with her religious beliefs. Not thrown in jail. I had a Muslim that worked for my team who we had to reassign to another task because he prayed 5 times a day and couldn't work in the field.

What if the Muslim's belief is to stone you to death for adultery? Should they be allowed to do that?

44   anonymous   2015 Sep 4, 11:32am  

I'd like to ask crazed Christian extremists if they're comfortable being told by a Muslim DMV employee that women will not be given driver's licenses, in keeping with Wahhabism and Sharia Law.

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Cant speak for those with half my IQ, but as a solid white American Rationalist jag-off, i'd welcome the idea. Sounds like Sharia Law would make the roads infinitely safer.

45   socal2   2015 Sep 4, 11:33am  

lostand confused says

What if the Muslim's belief is to stone you to death for adultery? Should they be allowed to do that?

Uh no- cause that is murder.

46   lostand confused   2015 Sep 4, 11:36am  

socal2 says

What if the Muslim's belief is to stone you to death for adultery? Should they be allowed to do that?

Uh no- cause that is murder

But that is their belief from God and they actually do that in some countries. So the Muslim will say it is murder in man's world but not by God. So this woman is following her belief in God in opposing secular laws-where do we draw the line?

47   socal2   2015 Sep 4, 11:39am  

HydroCabron says

This is an elected position. She can't just lose her job. Contempt of court is the only path here, and it's quite constitutional.

In a normal and tolerant society not run by Authoritarian Progs, we allow for "accommodations" when we make big changes to our laws like 5 judges just did at the Supreme Court.

Again, about 2 months ago Gay Marriage was not legal in many states. A few years before that it was not legal in most of the world.

They could have found better ways to get through this situation without jailing people. This gay couple presumably waited years for the Supreme Court to legalize gay marriage in Kentucky, they couldn't wait a few more days to deputize other clerks or find a way to recall or impeach this Democrat?

48   lostand confused   2015 Sep 4, 11:47am  

socal2 says

they couldn't wait a few more days to deputize other clerks

They gave her the option-she refused.

49   lostand confused   2015 Sep 4, 11:49am  

Now I don't believe in the war on drugs. But if I become a judge and have to follow mandatory sentencing-can I free any drug related defendant that comes by my way?

50   HydroCabron   2015 Sep 4, 11:50am  

socal2 says

In a normal and tolerant society not run by Authoritarian Progs, we allow for "accommodations" when we make big changes to our laws like 5 judges just did at the Supreme Court.

The accommodation you speak of amounts to coddling a public employee who openly defies the lines of authority.

People who abuse a position of authority or fail to do their jobs should be got rid of. I would think that a self-described "conservative" would be delighted to see a failing public servant dealt with quickly and decisively. Aren't conservatives constantly complaining about the lack of accountability in the public sector?

51   HydroCabron   2015 Sep 4, 12:07pm  

Ironman says

HydroCabron says

People who abuse a position of authority or fail to do their jobs should be got rid of.

Starting here?

Get impeachment through the House, then get the Senate to impeach.

If that happens, and Obama refuses to leave the White House, I would support jailing him.

52   socal2   2015 Sep 4, 12:14pm  

HydroCabron says

Get impeachment through the House, then get the Senate to impeach.

If that happens, and Obama refuses to leave the White House, I would support jailing him.

OK - so why couldn't they impeach this Democrat clerk in Kentucky? That is the option available to remove her from her post.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/09/02/qa-ky-clerk-gay-marriage-license-case/71567812/

And as I pointed out earlier, why weren't Gavin Newsom and Jerry Brown impeached or even reprimanded for not following the State's laws when gay marriage was still illegal?

The law is the law and all that - right?

53   Shaman   2015 Sep 4, 12:15pm  

She also could have done like all the other county clerks with religious objections to gay marriage and had one of her younger Obama-fan junior clerks perform the marriage.
I think she was making a point. It costs to make a point. In this case it costs her a few days of freedom to exercise her religious freedom. Many highly regarded people throughout history (MLK anyone?) would consider this a fair trade.

54   Shaman   2015 Sep 4, 12:17pm  

In Kentucky, her jail time will ensure her reelection. Them rednecks and poor blacks don't like the gays, and certainly don't think they ought to be getting married. Rest assured Davis is a local hero.

55   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Sep 4, 3:13pm  

Look, it's very simple. Here's an imperfect analogy

Quaker joins the USN and flies F-18s. He's instructed to engage the enemy, and refuses, because he's a Quaker.

USAF gives him several choices: Resign, or fire on the enemy planes. He refuses to do either.

Nobody, I mean nobody, certainly not Huckabee, would be screaming "TYRANNY! SOCIALIZM!! OBAMANAZI!! The JEWZ, JEZUITS, NWO, POLICE STATE!!!" if the USAF discharged the guy (or put him in prison).

56   Tenpoundbass   2015 Sep 4, 3:25pm  

She's wrong Cake boy is not.

She works in the Court house issuing legal doccuments. The SOP for people of the same sex to legally benefit share, is to get a cohabitation request form.
That is the way the court should look at it, that is the way the church should look at it, and bakers and tailors can decide if they only do religious ceramony stuff.

58   Tenpoundbass   2015 Sep 4, 6:48pm  

I wonder if he is voting for Trump?

59   lostand confused   2015 Sep 4, 7:13pm  

Mr Happygoluckofus says

I wonder if he is voting for Trump?

Trump has had 3 marriages-or is that not enough since the KY clerk is on her 4th one??

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