patrick.net

Cool tune, clever.
I’m constantly arguing with people about the Wuhan virus hoax.
It’s tiring but I keep trying anyway.

That video is good enough that I suspect we won't be able to view it for long, so here is a copy on patrick.net:

The irony is this would have been RATM 30 years ago, but the system is so strong and the smell of money with as side of virtue signaling so sweet that within time many sell out. RATM probably today not only endorse full blown marxism, but also full scale lockdowns and big government aggression against the buddhist monk self-immolating on their debut album cover.

Patrick says

If I’m out doing errands and driving from groceries store to the post office and to go to pickup food only a 1 mile round trip... it makes sense to leave the mask on. Touching your mask in between errands defeats some of the purpose of the mask if you touch your face with covid virus.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Touching your mask in between errands defeats some of the purpose of the mask if you touch your face with covid virus.

The purpose of the mask is to signal your virtue and willingness to do whatever it takes to "stop the invisible enemy!"

If the virus was so deadly "essential" workers would be dropping like flies.

The fact is that less than a thousand people under 25 and an additional ten thousand under 50 in America have died from this "plague".

It's the big lie.

Having said all that, I do mask for food.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Patrick says

If I’m out doing errands and driving from groceries store to the post office and to go to pickup food only a 1 mile round trip... it makes sense to leave the mask on. Touching your mask in between errands defeats some of the purpose of the mask if you touch your face with covid virus.

That's true but cloth masks don't provide protection (but at least they signal cooperation), you would need to use n95 or higher and leaving those on for a prolonged time is unhealthy. You could disinfect/wash your hands and then take the mask off but it's a hassle. There are n100 masks with valves to breathe out some of the hot used air which are likely the best for you but they don't want you to wear those (just in case you carry sars-cov2) since they don't care about you. In any case, it's not healthy to wear a mask for a prolonged time.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/28/asia/japan-suicide-women-covid-dst-intl-hnk/index.html (CNN is usually shit, of course, but this is interesting)

In Japan, more people died from suicide last month than from Covid in all of 2020...

Japan is one of the few major economies to disclose timely suicide data -- the most recent national data for the US, for example, is from 2018. The Japanese data could give other countries insights into the impact of pandemic measures on mental health, and which groups are the most vulnerable.

"We didn't even have a lockdown, and the impact of Covid is very minimal compared to other countries ... but still we see this big increase in the number of suicides," said Michiko Ueda, an associate professor at Waseda University in Tokyo, and an expert on suicides.
"That suggests other countries might see a similar or even bigger increase in the number of suicides in the future."

BoomAndBustCycle says

Touching your mask in between errands defeats some of the purpose of the mask if you touch your face with covid virus.

Lol, and this is exactly why masks are useless and I personally believe are why we've only seen a steady increase in cases since mandates went into place. I'd venture to guess people are 10x's more likely to be touching their face with the mask on and making constant adjustment. I know I do.

Remember that before widespread mask mandates went into place, the number of cases had been dropping. This was as more testing was being done. Now you're told to slap a mask on and the virus is only spreading more it appears. It's not scientific data, but it's all there on public websites with visual graphs. We social distanced without the masks at first and it seemed to work. Now everyone's wearing a mask and it's worse than when we were "unprotected" so to speak at the beginning.

I personally think hand washing/sanitizer and being careful around high touch surfaces is all that needs to be done. I know quite a few people that have had it at this point. All believe that it was surfaces and touching family members or loved ones. Not being in close quarters without a mask.

From a mostly-reader:

I think there is some cultural reason for why COVID seems to create such a problem here -- I know that Vietnam has not had even one death from it, it is minor in N Zealand, in Denmark they don't even wear masks and closely socialize, and yet have little trouble

I know P may not agree, but I still entertain suspicions that the US government released it like in /The Stand/, and the reason I think this view viable (thought certainly NOT proven) is because ALL of the benefits from the pandemic run to the elites and one-percenters, and every one else is fucked under by it

I think it's too hard to engineer a virus that affects populations differently, esp. since NZ, Europe and US are extremely close genetics wise. However the US is on avg pretty unhealthy and they also fake a lot of severe flu or pneumonia cases as Covid so they can drum up the panic here. It is a serious illness but it's clearly overhyped here.

mell says

It is a serious illness but it's clearly overhyped here.

The problem is, there's no way of telling how serious. Really. The lies, incentives, force and misinformation point toward a hoax. I do believe it is pretty serious for the elderly but, COME ON MAN, still 94%(?) of the elderly live to tell about it even.

WineHorror1 says

mell says

It is a serious illness but it's clearly overhyped here.

The problem is, there's no way of telling how serious. Really. The lies, incentives, force and misinformation point toward a hoax. I do believe it is pretty serious for the elderly but, COME ON MAN, still 94%(?) of the elderly live to tell about it even.

It's as serious as the flu but we vaccinate the weak and exposed against it so there's never that mass contagion unless we completely miss the strains. Not more or less and we have never told people to stay home or wear masks because of the flu, well since the Spanish flu at least.

mell says

since NZ, Europe and US are extremely close genetics wise.

Or rather used to be. US is much more colored than Europe now, let alone NZ.

Dying on a ventilator after being intubated has to be a terrible way to die. I think a lot of fear stems from that procedure being hammered into people’s minds.

I personally think the masks are potentially immunizing more people though too, through low level exposure and limited exposure to the dead virus. I have a stack of old masks in my car that i wear when I forget a mask. Those have to have some dead or weakened strain of the virus or other viruses on it. I always believed in too sterile of an environment being really bad for the immune system. Your immune system needs a work out... so wearing a “dirty” mask for a healthy person is probably good and has some benefits.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Dying on a ventilator after being intubated has to be a terrible way to die. I think a lot of fear stems from that procedure being hammered into people’s minds.

Dying is terrible. You're dead. Fear of death is fear of death. None of us have died, so no point in saying one way is worse than any others.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Your immune system needs a work out... so wearing a “dirty” mask for a healthy person is probably good and has some benefits.

Or you just allow the body to react naturally. Protect yourself if vulnerable. Let's say I'm overweight. The solution right now is to starve everyone else because I ate too much and am fat. That's not a logical approach, but that's what Fauci would have us believe. Fuck everyone else except for these few vulnerable people that likely did it to themselves.

BoomAndBustCycle says

wearing a “dirty” mask for a healthy person is probably good and has some benefits.

Seriously?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/nov/30/almost-700000-driven-poverty-covid-crisis-uk-study

Almost 700,000 driven into poverty by Covid crisis in UK, study finds