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Benevolent? --- Is he sending more free money????

Dude your schtick is taking what People fed up with Leftist Communist assholes and that are calling them out. Taking it, then twisting it around and injecting.
"Oh you're just being played by the Global Communist, don't fall for it, that's what they want you to do, you're playing Red Vs Blue Politics."

Which totally disqualifies you to even weigh in on this discussion of concerned Americans that has seen way too often how Communist take foot.
We've managed their feelings for going on over 12 years now. If you have something better to offer to the conversation then bring it, but don't pull that coy mealy mouth double tongue crap with me. I can smell it coming a mile away. America has gone this long without being taken over by Communist, because Joseph McCarthy saw fit to root them out in the 50's and 60's.

Misc says

Benevolent? --- Is he sending more free money????

You can ask him what the "Red Dictator" will offer on whose behest he like citizens silenced or thrown out of country if they raise concerns and ask for accountability.
We should just succumb to his "red-beats-blue" silly game if need to be in good books of American constitution.

farmer2021 says

You can ask him what the "Red Dictator" will offer on whose behest he like citizens silenced or thrown out of country if they raise concerns and ask for accountability.

BBBBBUUUZZZZZZZ!

You Lose!

Communist don't throw dissidents out of the country. They first try to reeducate them, if that doesn't work they have their kids take them to a river and tie plastic bags over their heads. Read a fucking History book for Crist Sakes!

Tenpoundbass says

Dude your schtick is taking what People fed up with Leftist Communist assholes and that are calling them out. Taking it, then twisting it around and injecting.
"Oh you're just being played by the Global Communist, don't fall for it, that's what they want you to do, you're playing Red Vs Blue Politics."

Which totally disqualifies you to even weigh in on this discussion of concerned Americans that has seen way too often how Communist take foot.
We've managed their feelings for going on over 12 years now. If you have something better to offer to the conversation then bring it, but don't pull that coy mealy mouth double tongue crap with me. I can smell it coming a mile away. America has gone this long without being taken over by Communist, because Joseph McCarthy saw fit to root them out in the 50's and 60's.

You know how silly this looks...
"Which totally disqualifies you to even weigh in on this discussion of concerned Americans that has seen way too often how Communist take foot."
Its like saying.. You have freedom of speech as long as you say "what I want".
Your thinking can fit in either fascist or communist box and opposite of American constitution. The lovely part about US constitution is you can't "disqualify me"... But You want it done, so your yearning for dictatorship.

By the way America fought both communism and fascism for a reason.

farmer2021 says

You have very poor understanding of America and your "slave mind" is set in a world ruled by benevolent dictator..

This Hindu fleeing refugee really thinks of us as "Slaves". Shut up and sit this fight out!

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

You have very poor understanding of America and your "slave mind" is set in a world ruled by benevolent dictator..

This Hindu fleeing refugee really thinks of us as "Slaves". Shut up and sit this fight out!

Sure you can't fight against modern state. Hindooo is too many(Billion) and they genocide tiny minority of Sikhs who fought hard and lost 1/2 million lives and eventually lost the battle.
Similar way Election was snatched from Trump with state power and people couldn't do much.
But why should anybody be ashamed of it?... Do You want Sikhs to go and commit suicide by fighting a losing battle?

farmer2021 says

Its like saying.. You have freedom of speech as long as you say "what I want".

So just say "I'm sorry I'm not following the conversation, I don't know all of these words you are using."

You have a warped sense of summarization, when it comes to what I have ever said.

Tenpoundbass says

farmer2021 says

Its like saying.. You have freedom of speech as long as you say "what I want".

So just say "I'm sorry I'm not following the conversation, I don't know all of these words you are using."

You have a warped sense of summarization, when it comes to what I have ever said.

It is your words not mine that having a "opinion" disqualifies me and make me candidate to be sent outside of country.
May be you can explain ...How that is not curb on my freedom of speech?

You have freedom of speech, that has never been my argument. You're more than free to say any rubbish you wish. I will call you out when you're trying to diminish what I say by mitigating it with word salad.
Now if you have a comment on you mincing up the reality of Americans that should be alarmed by a very blatant Global Communist Cabal, and the corruption of our Politicians helping facilitate their take over, and our recognizing it as a Communist threat. You Sir, then said I was playing Red Vs Blue politics. Do you have an honest comment on that, are you going to bring up your freedom of speech again, and call me and Americans slaves encapsulated in quotation marks.

Tenpoundbass says

You have freedom of speech, that has never been my argument. You're more than free to say any rubbish you wish. I will call you out when you're trying to diminish what I say by mitigating it with word salad.
Now if you have a comment on you mincing up the reality of Americans that should be alarmed by a very blatant Global Communist Cabal, and the corruption of our Politicians helping facilitate it, and our recognizing it as a Communist threat. You Sir, then said I was playing Red Vs Blue politics. Do you have an honest comment on that, are you going to bring up your freedom of speech again, and call me and Americans slaves encapsulated in quotation marks.

All I said that we need to fight the "cabal" you are talking about and this "statue" and other things can wait.
They just create unnecessary conflict which is ill served at this time.
.. You can go back and check your response..

You know that the NWO crown prince was Bush Sr, who was "Red".
I have strong objection to "Red" for their participation in it... How is that anti-American sentiment you make it to?

I see it as elite vs common man fight.. Which you see as red Vs blue fight.
.. Now the means to bring victory for common man may be through "red" as a strategy.. But i see reds filled with NWO guys.

Invoking Bush is a Strawman argument. Bush Sr. has about as much in relation to Trump and his supporters, as Julia Childs had anything to do with the Boston Celtic's winning streak.
Perhaps you don't now, but the GOP, NWO, and RINOs are on the outs. The Patriotic voters, that Trump gave a platform to. That platform is the Republican party, the party isn't evil, not intrinsically, it's the people who have been occupying the party for the last 30 years. We're now joining the party locally and voting out the party leadership. Now understand, Mitch McConnel or Mitt Romney or any high profile Republican candidate you hear about on TV, is NOT the Republican party. The Republican party is an organization, that has saw fit to make sure their voters didn't participate in the Party politics. That involves either volunteering to be the person who over sees that Republican votes are counted at your local voting precinct where you cast your votes every two to four years. Or running to be elected to that position, if it's a coveted position in a key town. The Republican party has about 80% of those positions open and vacant, and never bothered to recruit from their voter roles. It's the only Republican party position that is an elected position, every election your precinct committeeperson position is up for reelection. If not then it's non contested, just sign up for it.

Then you get to caucus, once a year, and chose your district leader, congressional committee leadership and your state leadership. Voters have zero say who these people are. But they do matter, Boy oh boy do they matter. They then are the ones that see fit to support the candidacy of all of the RINOs they see fit to get elected. They also have the power to keep people off the ballot as a Republican candidate. These group of Party members are not elected by the voting public but by a caucus of the local precinct committee members, which for the most part hasn't existed in the Republican party until now. The 2020 election steal was an eye opener.

Trump was never meant to run on either party ticket, the establishment would have saw fit to make damn sure he never ran as a Democrat or a Republican. He was always independent, that's why he's never ran for office. He considered running in 2012, more seriously than ever in his life. He was going to run in 1992, but Bill Clinton chummed up to him and talked him out of it. In 2012, there was a real threat, because of the Obama/Trump rift between them, and the vocal ridicule Obama and RINOs gave him over the Birther movement. Mitt Romney offered Trump a spot on the 2016 Republican ticket if he didn't run in 2012.
And THAT is how Trump got on the Republican ticket, and that is how over 10 million life long NPA(No Party Affiliated) registered voters, changed their affiliation to Republican. Because even then early on, there wasn't enough Republicans that would have voted for Trump in the primaries. If all of the NPA voters had not registered as a Republican just for Trump. Trump would have never made it past the primaries. And the RINOs and the Establishment tried like hell to stop him from being nominated regardless how the voters voted. It is why Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, and Steve Bannon and other Trump alies were persecuted by the weaponized Commie Deep State. It was their tireless lawfare and legal constitutional wrangling that prevented the RINOS from usurping the Voters will at every Primary State election. All the way to the Convention, Mitt Romney and Bush Sr. were there trying to convince Preibus to reject Trumps nomination and put Mitt Romney or Ted Cruz instead.

Are you following so far? Any of this getting through to you?

This could have just as easily been the Democrat party if there was an opening opportunity that Trump got in 2016. None of us are life long Red Republicans defending G.W. Bush, and defending the RINOs because we have to stick together. Nothign could be further from the truth.

Now what we are doing as Civic minded citizens, is restoring Civics first to the Voter. And educating them that being a mere voter is pointless, if you're not to engage with the party you are registered to. And I would implore any and all Democrats to go pop their heads in on the local DNC committee executive meetings. It would be an eye opener, and would red pill them better than any Meme pulled off Gab could ever do.

Now you many ask, well why not just go start another party. For good or bad, (Mostly good if people participate!) We're a two party system, mostly due to the framework for distributed representation and execution of a parties viability in our election system is already set up for them. You can go start a MAGA party, but without the framework that has leadership and manpower all the way down to every City and community in America. Any third party would be a joke, they would not be viable to win National Elections.
The Republicans and or Democrats in thousand and thousands of polling stations would just rip those ballots up and shit can them. where the MAGA people aren't installed and part of the local politic machinery, So third parties are primarily used in this country to spoil the election for a popular favorite. And are usually an extension of one of the two parties trying to keep a populist that the Establishment doesn't want to win. That's why the Butt hurt RINOs and Liz Cheny now want to go form a 3rd party to compete with the MAGA patriots faction of the Republican party.
But for the first time in modern politics, the Swamp critters are trying to entice people as the "Sensible Third party alternative".
Usually they get people promising a bunch of free shit, to be the spoilers. Not the assholes that has spent 30 plus year careers, making damn sure nobody gets a damn thing but their donors.
That takes hubris and is quite comical if you think about it.

So you See this Red kick you're on, has nothing to do with what's going on today. Today the Red folks is the Communist Red Threat. The people you're wanting to call red, are the RINO Globalists, and they are on the outs.

Thanks for long response.
I get you:
Perhaps you don't now, but the GOP, NWO, and RINOs are on the outs. The Patriotic voters, that Trump gave a platform to. That platform is the Republican party, the party isn't evil, not intrinsically, it's the people who have been occupying the party for the last 30 years


I am a simple voter and have no skill/inclination for canvassing or other active political work(Not proud of it, But reality).. I can only comment on what I see and have no ability to change it.But What I can contribute is write and have written extensively for people to not have blind faith.
Currently I hate both red/blue for selling Americans to CCP, If reds behave better I am in.

Tenpoundbass says

Julia Childs had anything to do with the Boston Celtic's winning streak.

Well that kinda sucks, otherwise, Larry Bird may have put up a few more banners at the Garden.

Tenpoundbass says

The Republicans and or Democrats in thousand and thousands of polling stations would just rip those ballots up and shit can them. where the MAGA people aren't installed and part of the local politic machinery, So third parties are primarily used in this country to spoil the election for a popular favorite. And are usually an extension of one of the two parties trying to keep a populist that the Establishment doesn't want to win. That's why the Butt hurt RINOs and Liz Cheny now want to go form a 3rd party to compete with the MAGA patriots faction of the Republican party.

Exactly, like the PA Secretary of State going hardcore on the Green Party to get them off the ballot, but leaving the Libertarians alone.

A MAGA third party would instantly be met by a massive increase in the number of signatures and filing fees and other requirements just to get on the ballot. Something Dems/Reps get automatically.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Tenpoundbass says

The Republicans and or Democrats in thousand and thousands of polling stations would just rip those ballots up and shit can them. where the MAGA people aren't installed and part of the local politic machinery, So third parties are primarily used in this country to spoil the election for a popular favorite. And are usually an extension of one of the two parties trying to keep a populist that the Establishment doesn't want to win. That's why the Butt hurt RINOs and Liz Cheny now want to go form a 3rd party to compete with the MAGA patriots faction of the Republican party.

Exactly, like the PA Secretary of State going hardcore on the Green Party to get them off the ballot, but leaving the Libertarians alone.

A MAGA third party would instantly be met by a massive increase in the number of signatures and filing fees and other requirements just to get on the ballot. Something...

There is a Punjabi saying
"Walks few steps less , But walk with pride".

I will take fewer members of congress for red team, If they all are pro-people. I may also get off my butt and do some canvassing for them.
Even one honest member will make the life hell for corrupt proxies of elites.

I brought this up to few liberal people. They hear, but they want to block it out and justify it because it doesn’t fit narrative they built themselves on.

farmer2021 says

I am a simple voter and have no skill/inclination for canvassing or other active political work

Nobody really wants to do it, not even those self serving that have been doing it anyway. They have been doing it so they can get favorable legislation and industry related regulations that protects them from competition by creating a cost of doing business barrier that frustrates small players and start up contenders from competing in their field.

We have to start doing it, it's like Trump always said. He didn't want to have to run and get involved but he had to. And to be clear, the involvement I'm talking about here isn't canvasing or stumping for candidates. They shouldn't even be political activists. Out of al of the people in the two major political party hierarchy the positions I'm talking about has no compensation. For 98% of the precincts out there. There wouldn't even be any residual reward through networking. By that I mean, you're not going to parlay the experience by landing a job or a contract at a huge firm in your district. You're just the precinct captain of residential neighborhood, of your peers. Middleclass and lower middle class neighbors wouldn't have any high paying position to offer you after you've left the Committee. Like we see in most other pollical positions. The reward is purely Civic intent.
Yet this is the most important position in our two Political party system.

What would be ideal is for that Committee member to reach out to the constituency and talk to them about candidates and even the current elected officials. You are the main man for you local politics, and for positions beyond the scope of your neighborhood. You want good solid Civic minded people in surrounding precincts in your district, to discuss and nominate Citywide or even county wide candidates. By getting out and having discussions with registered party voters in your District precinct, you may find a retired Educator that knows the problems with the local school board, or a retired Military or someone from a large outfit that has managed large scale operations and logistics. People you could encourage to run for office. Where as now, those are likely people who have the publishers best interest at heart, and will see to it that their books are featured in their K-12 Curriculum.

There's a lot of dirty local politics that can be cleaned up. And local is where all of the Federal corruption begins. Damn sure where the election corruption that enables the Federal corruption originates.

The precinct committeeman is where the Candidates you see crappy candidates on the ballot and you ask yourself. "You mean you bastards, couldn't find anyone better to run?" comes from.

Tenpoundbass says

Until the 20th Century the Human Race was always a conquering subjugating species, mostly against other Cultures than themselves, but also against lower classes of their own Race and culture. From the dawn of hominids we evolved by either fucking or killing everything that didn't look quite like us. It's how we evolved from a long line of hominids. It's how all species evolved and survived. But after the French Revolution, the Holy Alliance started the concept of many Countries working together against the greater threat.
And the Threat even then, was the same threat we're faced with today. Far Left Disrupters, and Anarchists starving for power and mayhem. Europe formed an alliance to prevent, the kind of Revolt agitators from gaining traction in those countries. Just like we see what the BLM and ANTIFA has done, and how they did, with impunity.
From then until after WWII and the formation of NATO the UN and essentially an expansion of what the Holy Alliance started.
Humans...

Agreed. So what if Columbus was part of the conquistadores? The whole world was doing it, including the Indians. They may not have been into conquering other territories or continents, but slaughtering their own, like African warlords and their tribes. Without the technology and science mostly white people/conquistadores brought we would have never had human rights etc. It's all part of history and considering the adversities life had back then Columbus was certainly an adventurer and deserves to be recognized. You don't have to always moralize everything, history is history. To use a bit of hyberbole, many of you wouldn't be here if not for Genghis Khan.

Tenpoundbass says

Invoking Bush is a Strawman argument. Bush Sr. has about as much in relation to Trump and his supporters, as Julia Childs had anything to do with the Boston Celtic's winning streak.

Yep.

mell says

To use a bit of hyberbole, many of you wouldn't be here if not for Genghis Khan.

NONE of use would be here if it wasn't for Genghis Khan. We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Hitler, Mao, Stalin, the American Civil War, the Armenian genocide, Karl Marx, etc. etc.

Well, unless you were born before some of those people. That's how random life is. It's not hyperbole.

I don't think the Bronze age collapse was mysterious. I think the Egyptian, Hittites, Babylonians the Myceneans and Greeks were all huge empires that was built on Slave labor.
Slaves that no doubt were captured through conquest. The Sea peoples were the relatives and Cultural peers exacting revenge. All of these Civilizations were sacked and left in ruin. You would expect liberated Slaves, would not just be rescued and slip away in the night. They would want to make sure the massive structures they were made to create, was razed to the ground.

The Sea People were quite possibly Mankind's first multi national alliance against the Common enemies. Those enemies just happened to be great Bronze age Civilization capitals and Cities.

https://euphoricrecall.substack.com/p/the-great-statucide

The Great Statucide

... There have been hundreds of similar examples. Monuments that in many cases stood for centuries have been reduced to bare pedestals smattered with graffiti, the end result of Twitter-fueled fanaticism driven by national-guilt and systemic-racism narratives in which Americans are increasingly indoctrinated. But while media coverage has dwindled, the removal, defacement, and destruction of statues quietly continues. It’s part of a trend in which the high priests of social justice, dissatisfied with denouncing the living, now engage in a form of “cancelling” that seeks to condemn the dead, digging up the corpses of “problematic” individuals and putting them on trial. ...

History is a teacher of prudence. And, as is so often the case, it’s full of lessons from which we might learn in order to avoid repeating the past. It shines a light on the future, giving us a glimpse of where we might be headed so that we can course correct before it’s too late.

I’m thinking now of China’s cultural revolution during the 1960’s. Chairman of the People’s Republic of China Mao Zedong, worried that he might be sidelined by senior colleagues in the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), decided to assert his authority by bypassing comrades and appealing directly to youthful party members. He denounced the four olds that were impeding China’s progress: the old ideas, old culture, old customs, and old habits of the exploiting classes. It was a move to extend the revolution from economic and political power bases to all aspects of culture, including morals, values, traditions, and beliefs. In Mao’s telling, only a nation freed from its history could achieve the Communist end state. The informal paramilitary militia of adolescents prepared to engage in cultural revolution became known as the Red Guard. ...

It’s important to understand that members of the Red Guard weren’t psychopaths, as plenty of testimony proves. No, they were young and impressionable folks lured by the delusive analgesic of radical performative collective action and an illusion of purpose, direction, and identity. Afraid of being denounced themselves, they were driven to ever greater degrees of zealotry in order to prove their dedication. ...

When mobs engage in destructive outbursts they’re essentially testing the waters to gauge the level of violence legal authorities and the wider public are able to stomach. In this way, iconoclasm is a prelude to more extreme acts. As British historian Alexander Adams has written, “Iconoclasm is an immediate precursor to suppression, persecution, expulsion and the massacring of people. ...

Patrick says

As British historian Alexander Adams has written, “Iconoclasm is an immediate precursor to suppression, persecution, expulsion and the massacring of people. ...

This is already in the works in the form of wokeism, globalism, outsourcing, climate change, immigration, cancel policies, silent bans, big food, big pharma, indoctrination, lobbying, wars, printing.....