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Both of my 83 year old parents tested positive for Covid. The don't want to go to the hospital. If they were scared or in need, they'd change their mind. They tested positive 4-5 days ago. So far so good.

I would get on some treatment if I were in their shoes. Maybe the monoclonal antibody infusions are okay.

I guess it’s time to act when or if they have a fever.

If they took the shot maybe they won’t even feel shitty, no problem.

clambo says

I would get on some treatment if I were in their shoes. Maybe the monoclonal antibody infusions are okay.

I guess it’s time to act when or if they have a fever.

If they took the shot maybe they won’t even feel shitty, no problem.

No shots. Dad took some Ivermectin and mom has taken some HCQ. No fevers and no breathing issues. So far.

WineHorror1 says

clambo says

I would get on some treatment if I were in their shoes. Maybe the monoclonal antibody infusions are okay.

I guess it’s time to act when or if they have a fever.

If they took the shot maybe they won’t even feel shitty, no problem.

No shots. Dad took some Ivermectin and mom has taken some HCQ. No fevers and no breathing issues. So far.

False positives are very common. Unless they show symptoms, I wouldn't worry.

I'd also notify them that false positives are common lest they be influenced by expectations. Vitamin D and Zinc are commonly used. Don't overdo these, just have them take a few supplements.

I'll also advise that they don't go around telling people they tested positive, because other people will inevitably start giving them advice. Considering what was done to people who tested positive 12 months ago - like sedating them and placing them on a ventilator, I'd avoid a hospital.

Chicken soup and whatnot - standard stuff you'd get for a cold.

Patrick says

Is that a fancy word for an Italian Joint?

richwicks says

WineHorror1 says

clambo says

I would get on some treatment if I were in their shoes. Maybe the monoclonal antibody infusions are okay.

I guess it’s time to act when or if they have a fever.

If they took the shot maybe they won’t even feel shitty, no problem.

No shots. Dad took some Ivermectin and mom has taken some HCQ. No fevers and no breathing issues. So far.

False positives are very common. Unless they show symptoms, I wouldn't worry.

I'd also notify them that false positives are common lest they be influenced by expectations. Vitamin D and Zinc are commonly used. Don't overdo these, just have them take a few supplements.

I'll also advise that they don't go around telling people they tested positive, because other people will inevitably start giving them advice. Considering ...

We've got them taking Zinc, C, D and Quercetin daily.

WookieMan says

This will be a seasonal flu forever.

In August?

Yes the dilemma is false positive results can make you worry and take unnecessary action.

clambo says

Among the people who are sick in his hospital, the worst weren’t vaccinated.

What were their comorbidities

clambo says

So, my risk list has grown.
1. Old
2. Fat
3. Asthma
4. Diabetes
5. Cancer
6. Heart disease
7. High blood pressure
8. No shot

I thought you took the shot?

WookieMan says

We've become a freak out society where everyone needs a solution to every problem.

And huge industries have sprung up to amplify every freakout and monetize and profiteer off of "solutions".
And when "crisis" are so incredibly profitable I am pretty sure there is a strong impulse to gin one up as needed among the Psychopathic Elites.

Robert Sproul says

And when "crisis" are so incredibly profitable I am pretty sure there is a strong impulse to gin one up as needed among the Psychopathic Elites.

Health is the biggest industry when you combine all parts of it. Insurance companies are still getting their monthly payment and copays for procedures they bill you and the hospital differently (less). Labs getting all these tests like never seen before. Other illnesses not being treated for a year creating more business for hospitals and docs. Then there's the obvious, big Pharma making shit loads of money on tax payer backs with no recourse for the patient. PPE manufacturers. The list goes on. This is a massive con job or bio warfare. Pretty indisputable at this point.

We then tell people to stay home and the likes of Walmart, Amazon, etc will ship everything to you after they print free money for you. This whole situation is fucked up big time. We need much more defiance from the average person and employees of companies that put draconian restrictions on you or your peers.

Onvacation, yes I took the shot.
I consider not taking the shot a minor risk.

clambo says

Onvacation, yes I took the shot.
I consider not taking the shot a minor risk.

I know you did. I was trying to make a joke. If you have to explain your joke, it's not funny.

I wish you well.

I didn’t ask about the comorbidities, but I assumed it’s 94% of dead 💀 had a couple of comorbidities from what the CDC claimed.

The guy 29 years old having multiple organs fail sounded scary, but I don’t know anything else.

clambo says

I assumed it’s 94% of dead 💀 had a couple of comorbidities from what

93% had 1 or more comorbidities is the number I heard.

95% are over 50 years old.
79% are over 65 years old.
57% are over 75 years old.
30% of "deaths from covid-19" are amongst people over 80 years old

It's a tragedy that we are giving up our kids future in order to protect old people. It's a travesty that we are trying to give our children, who are NOT at risk, an experimental biologic agent that has unknown long-term effects.

clambo says

I didn’t ask about the comorbidities, but I assumed it’s 94% of dead 💀 had a couple of comorbidities from what the CDC claimed.

The guy 29 years old having multiple organs fail sounded scary, but I don’t know anything else.

635k deaths approaching two years now as other flu strains seemingly have disappeared. The net loss of additional life is trivial really. The 29 year old likely had something undiagnosed and just tested positive from a faulty test. It's not all that uncommon in a medical setting for people to come in with failing organs. They're seeing the sickest of the sick regardless of age. Probably wasn't healthy from the word go.

As OV posts above in the pie graph, if you're 64 and under, you'll likely be totally fine. Remember you still have to catch it in the first place which only a few of us on this forum have. It's likely rampant in older people because they generally just sit indoors. Flu is spreading constantly. We just don't fully know this one and how it's evolving. It will be a part of the flu cocktail in the future once approved.

Either way, data shows it's killing older, mostly dead and unhealthy people. America is obese. There's a lot of 65+ people that are fat and have been their whole lives. That's who this kills. Knowing an obese person about to hit 70 having gotten Covid, you really have to be in bad health to die from this or have some undiagnosed condition.

WineHorror1 says

We've got them taking Zinc, C, D and Quercetin daily.

Per @Rin's suggestion, they should be taking quercetin phytosome, which is 20X more bioavailable than quercetin dihydrate. This is one source: https://www.thorne.com/products/dp/quercetin-phytosome

clambo says

I know a guy who is in charge of an ICU in a hospital in South Florida.

There's over 9 million people in south Florida. Did he tell you how many people are in his ICU?

Did he ever explain, why one or two people get brain eating parasites, from swimming in the same body of water 1000's of other Summer revelers. That were also swimming in the exact same spot, on the exact same day, didn't get such an infection?
Every flu strain, has it's fatalities. It's the only thing that keeps them in the news. Even Zika that shrunk baby heads, stayed in the news for almost 5 years. Before it dried up and went away. The HN191 or what ever variant that was, going around in the summer of 2009, had just as many real hospitalizations and deaths. Asia countries were masking up, and carrying on the way we're carrying on now, back then. The only difference between then and now, is now, almost every death in 2020 was attributed to Corona. They play games with numbers, to where you can't trust them and take their word for it, to make an informed decision.

I don't deny there's a pathogen going around, that can kill some people in the population. While an overwhelming majority of the population can breath it in all day long, touch their face, rub their eyes, and lick their fingers and never get it. While other people may get it, and for some reason, some chronic conditions they may have had in the past, will make them deteriorate in an instant.

There's just a lot of truth and half truths to go around on both sides of the argument. But when we've got a power hungry, tryanny mongering marxist trained, communist promoting government politicizing it, and mandating things that don't make any sense. Then I'm going to side with caution and say... "No fuck that! They are pissing up our legs."

Get the fuck out of here, there's sick people in the hospitals! Where's the fucking ambulances, where's the neighbors falling out of their houses, sick and dying.
I'm in South Florida and I'm not seeing the 11,000 new cases a day. It's a big fucking lie.

Tenpoundbass says

Get the fuck out of here, there's sick people in the hospitals! Where's the fucking ambulances, where's the neighbors falling out of their houses, sick and dying.

Where's the dead people ON the street? Why no mass graves covered by caterpillar tractors driven by men in space suits? Where are the hazmat bins to dispose of our used paper masks?

We're being bamboozled.

My wife told me her hospital is starting to divert covid cases away because they are full. More age ranges and unvaccinated.

I read so much from both sides its really sad the left turned it into a weapon.