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Musk buys 9.2% of Twitter


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2022 Apr 4, 8:48am   4,411 views  66 comments

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This makes Musk the largest shareholder.

Hopefully he uses this leverage to clean house of all the Commies and Groomers that run this site.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-04/musk-takes-9-2-stake-in-twitter-after-questioning-platform?source=patrick.net

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43   Eman   2022 Apr 5, 5:05pm  

socal2 says
These sales are even more impressive when you consider Tesla doesn't do a lick of advertising or marketing. All of these sales are the result of word of mouth from obnoxious fanboys like me. I have personally converted at least 3 people to order Teslas in the last 2 months by giving test rides in my Model Y.


The car sells itself once someone has experienced it. A few family members and friends are also Tesla car owners now. In fact, my business partner just got his Model X Plaid delivered last week. It’s tax deductible too.
44   Goran_K   2022 Apr 5, 5:15pm  

socal2 says
Eman says
Once you’ve owned one, let us know if it’s over-priced.

By the way, no more government subsidies on Tesla for years now, and their sales haven’t slowed down. The wait for a new $115k starter Model X is over a year now. Apparently, others don’t think it’s over-priced.


These sales are even more impressive when you consider Tesla doesn't do a lick of advertising or marketing. All of these sales are the result of word of mouth from obnoxious fanboys like me. I have personally converted at least 3 people to order Teslas in the last 2 months by giving test rides in my Model Y.


Model 3 is one of the best cars I’ve owned. Can’t wait for my Cybertruck delivery.
45   Hircus   2022 Apr 5, 6:49pm  

If Musk starts positively influencing twitter, especially in terms of platform free speech, the woke attacks on him will surge. I can see the "news" articles already:

"Should a billionaire who made their money making cars be able to use their money to buy influence over our democratic speech platforms?"

"Elon should stick to space"

"How Elon Musk is hindering and even reverting democratic progress"

"Why Elon Musk is problematic"

"Is Elon Musk racist? Ex-employees share their horror stories."

...
46   HeadSet   2022 Apr 5, 7:37pm  

Goran_K says
Model 3 is one of the best cars I’ve owned.

I presume you have a Level 2 charger at home. Do you ever use a commercial level 3 charger? Or on trips do you have enough Tesla sites for charge stops? Around here commercial Level 3 chargers are 30 cents per minute, so an hour "fill-up" is $18.
47   Eman   2022 Apr 5, 9:03pm  

HeadSet says
Level 3 chargers are 30 cents per minute


@HeadSet, I believe you meant 30 cents/kWh.
48   HeadSet   2022 Apr 5, 9:16pm  

Eman says
@HeadSet, I believe you meant 30 cents/kWh.


Nope, 30 cents per minute:

49   Eman   2022 Apr 5, 9:22pm  

HeadSet says
Eman says
@HeadSet, I believe you meant 30 cents/kWh.


Nope, 30 cents per minute:



Then it really depends how fast it can charge. If it can give you 300 miles in an hour, then it’s not bad
50   HeadSet   2022 Apr 5, 9:39pm  

Eman says
Then it really depends how fast it can charge. If it can give you 300 miles in an hour, then it’s not bad

They are Level Three chargers, so that as fast as you can get so far. They will charge a Leaf or similar in about 45min - 60 min, which is about 250 miles. I do not know how long an extended rage car like a Tesla would take, but I would guess about 1.5 hours for the 400 mile range Model S.
52   WookieMan   2022 Apr 5, 11:19pm  

Eman says
Once you’ve owned one, let us know if it’s over-priced.

They are over priced for sure. Having driven one I don't think they're bad cars. But I would never pay the price for any model Tesla to be honest. They simply have no utility besides driving short distances. Basically a commuter car.

I just hauled an electric golf cart 70 miles on my trailer. Not a chance in hell any full EV could do that without a charge on the way. Deciding on a battery for the golf cart and best case I'm looking at 70 miles range and 5 hours to full charge. Fortunately it's a golf cart and not a daily driver. Take the batteries out and you can pick the thing up and you only get 70 miles on a 5 hour charge. EV's have a long way to go. They're fun, but they're basically a toy at this point.

It's not green either. If you account for just the extraction of minerals for the lithium batteries, you've put more CO2 into the atmosphere for one battery than you would an ICE vehicle. That's before you've even charged it. Musk isn't a moron. He built a "cool" golf cart now that I'm researching batteries. I also don't trust Teslas safety. My wife and 3 kids were rear ended in our Sequoia. Totaled. It didn't look bad, but my kids and wife could literally be dead today if they drove a Tesla.

EV's are hitting a wall in my opinion. Can't tow. They're small. Poor range. Long charge time. Hybrids are likely the future and not 100% EV. Even hybrids have massive shortcomings unless you're a straight up commuter driver. They're fun to drive, that legit is the only selling point for me. There is no other redeeming quality about them though.
54   Hircus   2022 Apr 6, 10:53am  

Hircus says
If Musk starts positively influencing twitter, especially in terms of platform free speech, the woke attacks on him will surge. I can see the "news" articles already:

"Should a billionaire who made their money making cars be able to use their money to buy influence over our democratic speech platforms?"

"Elon should stick to space"

"How Elon Musk is hindering and even reverting democratic progress"

"Why Elon Musk is problematic"

"Is Elon Musk racist? Ex-employees share their horror stories."

...


So it begins.


55   Goran_K   2022 Apr 6, 11:47am  

WaPO is just Jeff Bezos cry diary anyway. No one considers WaPO a serious news source anymore.
56   Misc   2022 Apr 6, 11:52am  

Looks like some POS Bloomberg propagandist penned it. --- He mustuv shopped it around looking for someone to pay him some coin.
57   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 6, 12:10pm  

Amazon's Starlink Competition hired multiple flights on every Launch provider but Starlink - the cheapest, most affordable and reliable provider.

I mention this for those who think WaPo isn't Bezo's Blog.

It's not about financial benefit, but control.
58   AmericanKulak   2022 Apr 6, 12:12pm  

WookieMan says
It's not green either. If you account for just the extraction of minerals for the lithium batteries, you've put more CO2 into the atmosphere for one battery than you would an ICE vehicle. That's before you've even charged it. Musk isn't a moron. He built a "cool" golf cart now that I'm researching batteries. I also don't trust Teslas safety. My wife and 3 kids were rear ended in our Sequoia. Totaled. It didn't look bad, but my kids and wife could literally be dead today if they drove a Tesla.


He's making money on EVs whose real purpose is to develop rovers for Moon and Mars.
59   richwicks   2022 Apr 6, 12:39pm  

AmericanKulak says
He's making money on EVs whose real purpose is to develop rovers for Moon and Mars.


We MIGHT return to the moon before Elon Musk is dead at 100 of old age, but we're not going to Mars anytime soon. Mars takes 5 months to get there, and then once you get there, you're there for about a year as you have to wait until Mars is again close enough to the Earth to get back. It's a MAJOR mission.

A base would have to be setup by remote means, the amount of food you'd have to bring is no joke, fuel would have to be parked in orbit around mars, and possibly a ship itself - and if anything goes wrong, ANYTHING goes wrong, the men die there, and it will be men. Not because women can't do it, but the PR disaster if a woman doesn't make it back would be 1000x worse than if the men don't make it back. Men are expendable.

On top of that, the people going to Mars will need to be in simulated gravity, because when people are in 0 G for a few months, they can't walk once they get back to Earth. There's some ideas of how to use rotation to simulate this, and it would probably work and be safe. Men have lived in modules on Earth that spin to simulate 2 G for over a week. I don't believe the people were incapacitated when they exited.

We'll have a full fledged and manned moon base before we even THINK about going to Mars. Mars is over 100 years away and you're going to have some real crazy nutbags to go, but they are plenty of them. It will have to be some sort of rivalry between the US and China to get it going like the moon mission was. It will cost a fortune.
60   stereotomy   2022 Apr 6, 12:51pm  

The corrupt governments of the world will never countenance a self-sufficient (AKA politically independent) colony off the earth. To do so would invite the possibility that these independent colonies, if sufficiently provoked, would fight back by dropping rocks (with catastrophic results) on their earthbound tormentors.

This is the logic of psychopaths, or the logic of crabs in a bucket. In any case, we shall see how Musk et. al. are sabotaged once their technological infrastructure is capable of launching viable colonies.
61   Goran_K   2022 Apr 6, 1:01pm  

stereotomy says
The corrupt governments of the world will never countenance a self-sufficient (AKA politically independent) colony off the earth. To do so would invite the possibility that these independent colonies, if sufficiently provoked, would fight back by dropping rocks (with catastrophic results) on their earthbound tormentors.

This is the logic of psychopaths, or the logic of crabs in a bucket. In any case, we shall see how Musk et. al. are sabotaged once their technological infrastructure is capable of launching viable colonies.


The Martian Resistance will fight off the globalist oppressors!
62   Eman   2022 Apr 6, 2:06pm  

WookieMan says
They are over priced for sure.


People vote with their checkbook. The waiting list on the cars, up to over a year, suggests others don’t feel the same way.
64   richwicks   2023 Apr 6, 2:08pm  

Eman says


WookieMan says

They are over priced for sure.


People vote with their checkbook. The waiting list on the cars, up to over a year, suggests others don’t feel the same way.



Marketing trumps engineering.

Electric vehicles are no better than internal combustion engine vehicles, and in many ways are worse. They have less range, the material to build them is dependent on essentially slave labor, our energy grid is burdened by them, they produce (at least) as much pollution as an ICE engine, you just don't see it, because it's produced at an electrical plant which isn't in your backyard.

I can tell you this, and you will ignore it. Marketing trumps engineering. We know, but who listens to the people who build all this shit? We are not skilled in convincing you, we are skilled only in informing you and in building all this shit. You simply cannot believe us. Truth has no power over marketing.
65   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 6, 5:12pm  

Hircus says




He did exactly what they told him: "If you don't like Twitter - get your own".
66   RWSGFY   2023 Apr 6, 5:13pm  

Eman says

WookieMan says
They are over priced for sure.


People vote with their checkbook. The waiting list on the cars, up to over a year, suggests others don’t feel the same way.


This didn't age well.

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