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Self-anointed "fact-checkers” in the U.S. corporate press have spent two weeks mocking as disinformation and a false conspiracy theory the claim that Ukraine has biological weapons labs, either alone or with U.S. support. They never presented any evidence for their ruling — how could they possibly know? and how could they prove the negative? — but nonetheless they invoked their characteristically authoritative, above-it-all tone of self-assurance and self-arrogated right to decree the truth, definitively labelling such claims false.

Glenn's links inside article - "fact check" examples:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/25/tweets/there-are-no-us-run-biolabs-ukraine-contrary-socia/
https://www.factcheck.org/2022/03/social-media-posts-misrepresent-u-s-ukraine-threat-reduction-program/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/02/25/fact-check-claim-us-biolabs-ukraine-disinformation/6937923001/
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/02/ukraine-biolabs-conspiracy-theory-qanon/

Claims that Ukraine currently maintains dangerous biological weapons labs came from Russia as well as China. The Chinese Foreign Ministry this month claimed: "The US has 336 labs in 30 countries under its control, including 26 in Ukraine alone.” The Russian Foreign Ministry asserted that “Russia obtained documents proving that Ukrainian biological laboratories located near Russian borders worked on development of components of biological weapons.” Such assertions deserve the same level of skepticism as U.S. denials: namely, none of it should be believed to be true or false absent evidence. Yet U.S. fact-checkers dutifully and reflexively sided with the U.S. Government to declare such claims "disinformation” and to mock them as QAnon conspiracy theories.

Unfortunately for this propaganda racket masquerading as neutral and high-minded fact-checking, the neocon official long in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true. Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her and demanded that she instead affirm that if a biological attack were to occur, everyone should be “100% sure” that it was Russia who did it. Grateful for the life raft, Nuland told Rubio he was right.

But Rubio's clean-up act came too late. When asked whether Ukraine possesses “chemical or biological weapons,” Nuland did not deny this: at all. She instead — with palpable pen-twirling discomfort and in halting speech, a glaring contrast to her normally cocky style of speaking in obfuscatory State Department officialese — acknowledged: “uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” Any hope to depict such "facilities” as benign or banal was immediately destroyed by the warning she quickly added: “we are now in fact quite concerned that Russian troops, Russian forces, may be seeking to, uh, gain control of [those labs], so we are working with the Ukrainiahhhns [sic] on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of Russian forces should they approach” — [interruption by Sen. Rubio]:

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine-has-biological?s=r&source=patrick.net

MOAR:

The indisputable reality is that — despite long-standing international conventions banning development of biological weapons — all large, powerful countries conduct research that, at the very least, has the capacity to be converted into biological weapons. The work conducted under the guise of “defensive research” can, and sometimes is, easily converted into the banned weapons themselves. Recall that, according to the FBI, the 2001 anthrax attacks that terrorized the nation came from a U.S. Army Research scientist, Dr. Bruce Ivins, working at the U.S. Army's infectious disease research lab in Fort Detrick, Maryland. The claim was that the Army was "merely” conducting defensive research to find vaccines and other protections against weaponized anthrax, but to do so, the Army had to create highly weaponized anthrax strains, which Ivins then unleashed as a weapon.

A 2011 PBS Frontline program on those anthrax attacks explained: “in October 2001, Northern Arizona University microbiologist Dr. Paul Keim identified that the anthrax used in the attack letters was the Ames strain, a development he described as ‘chilling’ because that particular strain was developed in U.S. government laboratories.” Speaking to Frontline in 2011, Dr. Keim explained why it was so alarming to discover that the U.S. Army had been cultivating such highly lethal and dangerous strains in its lab, on U.S. soil:

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You can vote against neocons all you want, but they never go away. The fact that a member of one of the most powerful neocon families in the U.S. has been running Ukraine policy for the U.S. for years — having gone from Dick Cheney to Hillary Clinton and Obama and now to Biden — underscores how little dissent there is in Washington on such questions. It is Nuland's extensive experience in wielding power in Washington that makes her confession yesterday so startling: it is the sort of thing people like her lie about and conceal, not admit. But now that she did admit it, it is crucial that this revelation not be buried and forgotten.

The "Factchecking BS" with Biolabs is just like how the CRT narrative developed:

1. It never happened ("Misinformation from QAnon")
2. It was only disease prevention research. ("Only Taught in Law school")
3. It was only a cleanup operation after the Cold War. ("It's just Civil Rights History Ed")
4. Russia can't get a hold of this innocent, vital disease prevention research! ("Parents shouldn't have the right to look at or change this curriculum!")

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60708350?source=patrick.net

Those damn Ruskie's holding back covid vaccine boosters!!!

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60711705?source=patrick.net

From the above article :
Some of these labs receive financial and other support from the US, the European Union and the World Health Organization (WHO) - as is the case in many other countries.

Some questions that come to my mind :
Why is the US funding overseas labs on Russia's and China's doorstep?
(hint: because such research is illegal in the US and because the location is convenient)
Remember, Fauci lied to Congress about funding gain of function research in Wuhan, China.

Why was the funding continued during the Ukrainian civil war and not sanctioned?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas

Why so many labs? Science advances on competition but why so many?

Surely even the most ardent of BBC advocates must understand the validity of these questions?

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https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/11/on-a-knifes-edge-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net


Keep in mind the U.S. hadn’t uttered a word about Russia using bio or chemical weapons in Ukraine until Nuland opened her mouth.

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https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/russia-convene-un-council-alleging?s=r&source=patrick.net

Perfectly Lawful and Legal and Unfortunate
By Anna Von Reitz

http://www.paulstramer.net/2022/03/perfectly-lawful-and-legal-and.html?source=patrick.net

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"We Trained Nazis" - Former US Marine Corp Intelligence Officer, Scott Ritter

"The first troops to be trained by US and British soldiers were the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion"

https://twitter.com/ivan_8848/status/1502723971741110277?source=patrick.net

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/treasonous-lies-may-cost-lives-mitt-romney-lashes-tulsi-gabbard-talking-us-funded-biolabs-ukraine/?source=patrick.net

“There are 25+ US-funded biolabs in Ukraine which if breached would release and spread deadly pathogens to US/world.” Gabbard said on Sunday.

“We must take action now to prevent disaster. US/Russia/Ukraine/NATO/UN/EU must implement a ceasefire now around these labs until they’re secured and pathogens destroyed,” she added.

https://babylonbee.com/news/99-of-americans-support-sending-mitt-romney-to-fight-in-ukraine?source=patrick.net

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/04/09/german-bioweapons-research-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net

German bioweapons research in Ukraine
Germany, too, has run its own military-biological program in Ukraine, according to Russia's permanent representative at the UN office in Geneva, Gennady Gatilov.

Published: April 9, 2022, 6:23 am

A same kind of nothingburger as "OMG, there are ICBM silos there!". Both are leftovers from the USSR times.

Patrick says

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/04/09/german-bioweapons-research-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net

German bioweapons research in Ukraine
Germany, too, has run its own military-biological program in Ukraine, according to Russia's permanent representative at the UN office in Geneva, Gennady Gatilov.

Published: April 9, 2022, 6:23 am

Some cunt arbitrary inserts word "weapons" into otherwise innocent narrative and p.net skeptic brigade laps it up without asking for any proof. So sad.

RWSGFY says

Patrick says

https://freewestmedia.com/2022/04/09/german-bioweapons-research-in-ukraine/?source=patrick.net

German bioweapons research in Ukraine
Germany, too, has run its own military-biological program in Ukraine, according to Russia's permanent representative at the UN office in Geneva, Gennady Gatilov.

Published: April 9, 2022, 6:23 am

Some cunt arbitrary inserts word "weapons" into otherwise innocent narrative and p.net skeptic brigade laps it up without asking for any proof. So sad.

how are we supposed to feel when we found out wuhan lab was bio weapon research and last 2 years were in lockdowns because covid was released or escaped from it. some countries are still locked down over it.

The difference between weaponization and gain of function is alleged purpose.

There is no such thing as a 'defensive' biolab. They exist to develop agents to kill and maim offensively, that is their only purpose. It takes some exotic bullshit propaganda to ever attempt to portray biolabs as 'defensive'. I suppose they are defensive in the same way an atom bomb is defensive if you manage to get the drop on your enemies and deliver the first volleys before they can get their own missiles off the ground.

AmericanKulak says

alleged purpose.

Didn't they release it because the first impeachment failed?

Funny how triple jabbed (supposedly) Pelosi now has the Wuhan. I'm surprised she did not catch it way back at the beginning of the pandemic when she had her roots died.

Onvacation says

Funny how triple jabbed (supposedly) Pelosi now has the Wuhan.

Guess vodka doesn't kill fake Covid. Of course, the Woo says this is code for 'arrest'. However, the Woo has had Pelosi arrested dozens of time already. The hopium carrot has kind of dried up there.

AmericanKulak says

Natalie Winters is like 20 years old, she's unbelievably great.

Damn, youre right. Just scanning the headlines and excerpts gets me excited to read them all.
https://thenationalpulse.com/author/natalie-winters/?source=patrick.net