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Russian soldier experience during war in Ukraine


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2022 Aug 19, 8:59am   1,524 views  27 comments

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In Russian, so a lot of Patnet armchair Eastern Europe specialists will not bother to put it in google translate and will keep making their bold predictions about the things they have no idea about.

In any case, here it is for those who want non-filtered experience and a reasonable explanation why things are how they are:

https://vk.com/doc365182800_642173669

It is on a Russian website, written in rather poor language (as in by a non-educated person) so likely not Western propaganda.

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7   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 1:39pm  

Eric Holder says


Patrick says


OK, that's a valid use of the for-pay feature.


Prediction: nobody will read it.



Really? Nobody is going to read 141 pages of text just from an unknown author written in Russian, and in a PDF so to translate it you have to do it paragraph by paragraph? Golly what a shock!

I like the "I can tell you the truth about Russia/Ukraine but you have to go through SHITLOAD OF EFFORT" every fucking time. Every one of you mother fuckers that is kissing US state department and CIA asshole and slurping their cocks, have the "inside" story, but only in Russian, you can never translate. Everybody is just confoundingly ignorant except you twats who only have sources in foreign languages and can never do any explanation because it's just not worth your time. We need to learn an entirely different language or spend hours going through murky translation or read fucking books from unknown authors.

Who knows who wrote it? Couldn't be our fucking CIA asswipes that did 9/11, murdered 3,000 Americans and put us into 20 years of war. That would be unethical for a CIA walking talking colostomy bag to be that dishonest as to fake an account.

You want to convince people, but make it as difficult as you fucking possibly can.

All of you are full of shit Every one of you mother fuckers is full of shit. @Bd6r - you're full of shit, @"mostly reader" - you're full of shit, and @"Eric Holder" - you are full of shit - ESPECIALLY Eric Holder - our most corrupt Attorney General in my lifetime, fucking bigoted racist piece of shit. I think it's more likely you're Glowie fuckers than you are human beings. I don't think any of you have any morality, I don't think you're honest, I think you're propagandists. I think you're the scum of the scum of this scummy government. Here's who you work for and protect:



That crackhead mother fucker who is doing literally child's blow art that I did 45 years ago in kindergarten selling that shit for 1/2 million in BLATANTLY OBVIOUS bribes. Government is nothing but a bunch of traitors and criminals the scum of the scum is intelligence and you don't have to be intelligent to work for intelligence, you just have to be completely free of any morals. Just have to be a sociopath.
8   Bd6r   2022 Aug 19, 1:49pm  

Please show us on the doll where these evil users hurt you Richwicks. Did they really try make you think, instead of typing the same words over and over? Did they cause you mental discomfort?
9   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 1:55pm  

Can't we all just get along?
10   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 2:01pm  

Bd6r says


Please show us on the doll where these evil users hurt you Richwicks. Did they really try make you think, instead of typing the same words over and over? Did they cause you mental discomfort?


Dude, I'm not a piece of shit anti-American fucktard, and I'm tired of traitors calling themselves patriots. I'm tired of it. We have fucking traitors controlling the nation, and I'm not too much of a pussy to be afraid to call it out, and I'm not a traitor that works for them.

Think it's a little off base to point out our government did 9/11? Of course they did. They tried to blow up the WTC in 1993, Emad Salem proved it.

What sort of scumbag would work for the US government and intelligence agencies. I bet you would. You're just a bunch of murderers and co-conspirators. Garbage.

See, I do my civic duty and I put in some small amount of effort to know what is going on, and I see right through the frauds now.

See what a difference there is in my writing style versus a propagandists? I have actual information in my posts. You can find out who Emad Salem is, for example. Here, I'll make it easy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_Salem

Here, the first line:


Emad A. Salem is an FBI informant, who was a key witness in the trial of Ramzi Yousef, Abdul Hakim Murad, and Wali Khan Amin Shah, convicted in the World Trade Center bombing of February 26, 1993. He testified that the bomb was built under supervision from the FBI.


See? I'm not trying to beat people into submission to agree with my bullshit, like you do. I don't try to shame them or tell them they are just "too lazy" (to learn a new language then read a book from an unknown author) - I just lay out data. You can see it. The FIB saw to it that the WTC bombing in 1993 happened. You can be goddamned certain the intelligence agencies were involved with their destruction just 8 years later.

Or you can deny it, whatever. I'm used to having to deal with traitors.

It's not a hard pattern to see, if my government supports it, it's probably fucking evil. That's what my government does. They murder people, they lie to start wars, they constantly lie to the public, they're all corrupt, they engage in insider trading, they sell out American corporations, they're just garbage.

Now if you work for them, especially as a "public relations" specialist, you're the garbage of the garbage.
11   Ceffer   2022 Aug 19, 2:06pm  

Well, after all that watered down rant, I would really like to know what richwicks REALLY thinks.
12   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 2:07pm  

Patrick says

Can't we all just get along?


To an extent. I no longer get angry with propagandists, but I'm never going to be nice with them. Their job is to lie in order to permit our government to do horrific crimes.
13   Ceffer   2022 Aug 19, 2:16pm  

Here we have Russian leaders giving lengthy, spoken, near scholarly dissertations, largely truthful from their perspective, opposing our own enemies, the Globalist Menace:
https://theduran.com/putin-shoigu-pitch-russia-as-main-opponent-of-globalisation-part-2/ https://theduran.com/putin-takes-on-globalists-live/
while these same Globalist psychos glory in destroying our country, humiliating our populace with bizarre, corrupt puppets who can barely put a few words together from teleprompters to lie relentlessly to us with fake information, and promoting a fake pandemic with lethal shots imposed on us through fiat money corruption.

I'm fine with the Russkie haters here. They provide counterpoint. I understand that Russia has a lot to answer for, but the Russians are currently saving us with their blood against the Globalism and renegade intelligence agencies that are committed to turning us into either corpses or penned cattle with vet chips. Whether that is part of a larger plan to destroy these corrupt Satanic menaces that have taken over the corporate and financial systems of the West, is speculation from the bleachers, but I am not opposed to it.
14   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 2:23pm  

Ceffer says


Russians are currently saving us with their blood against the Globalism and renegade intelligence agencies that are committed to turning us into either corpses or penned cattle with vet chips


I also see the Russians as "the enemy of our enemy". It's not like I trust Russia or would want to live there, but they seem to have a certain accidental utility here.

The greatest danger to Americans clearly comes from DC, specifically from the FBI, CIA, NSA, NIH, CDC, and FDA. Russia is not much of a danger to Americans assuming that no one starts nuking anything.

If Russia can cause problems for treasonous scum like Hunter and Pedo Potatus and the corrupt Ukrainians who bribe them to alter US foreign policy, that seems like a net win for Americans. I'm sorry ordinary Ukrainian people are caught in the crossfire though.
15   Ceffer   2022 Aug 19, 2:26pm  

Yes, I think the Ukrainian people belong in the category of 'suffered way too much' and it's terrible they are in the line of fire. I don't know if they will emerge from the curse with social systems that work for their benefit.
16   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 2:36pm  

Ceffer says

Yes, I think the Ukrainian people belong in the category of 'suffered way too much' and it's terrible they are in the line of fire. I don't know if they will emerge from the curse with social systems that work for their benefit.


I agree, but who is responsible for this?

OUR GOVERNMENT is. Our fucking treasonous mother fuckers in DC overthrew that nation, if they didn't do this, this wouldn't be going on.

I place responsibility on the US government.

I would be MORE upset if I thought the fucking senile kiddy fucker that is "president", was actually elected, I'd feel some level of responsibility for this mess if I thought he was actually elected and not installed by the intelligence agencies. I'm grateful this isn't happening under an elected president, but rather under a tyranny.

I felt really bad and I was 10x more outspoken under Obozo, when that fucking traitor mother fucker overthrew Ukraine in 2014 - I recognized it at the time, and when he brought back slavery in Libya, and started arming terrorists in Syria, and blowing up Yemen and Somalia - because I believe he WAS elected. Of course, nothing would be different if the traitor John McCain was there instead of Mitt Romney was.

15 years ago I used to be frustrated that they constantly ran clone versus clone - "why won't they run somebody DECENT instead? If Ron Paul was allowed to run 2008, the RNC would have had a chance!" - the plan is to run traitor versus traitor, it's OBVIOUS now. I don't think the parties even pick the traitor that runs, intelligence agencies do.
17   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 2:42pm  

richwicks says


the plan is to run traitor versus traitor, it's OBVIOUS now. I don't think the parties even pick the traitor that runs, intelligence agencies do.


I agree, they don't have to cheat in elections like they did in 2020 as long as they have limited your options to corrupt candidates who will do as told, like Pedo Potatus.

The problem with Trump is that he was not on the officially approved menu, but the people picked him anyway. That really pissed off the FBI, CIA, and NSA.
18   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 2:45pm  

Patrick says

The problem with Trump is that he was not on the officially approved menu, but the people picked him anyway. That really pissed off the FBI, CIA, and NSA.


YEP and now instead of me SUSPECTING "this is how it works", now I KNOW how it works.

The mother fuckers doing this in our government, complete traitors. Look at what a mess they have made of this country in just 30 years? These same twats will be the first to scream how patriotic and democratic they are, scum. Everything they claim is the opposite.
19   clambo   2022 Aug 19, 3:07pm  

Can I get the Cliff Notes of the Russian story somewhere?
20   clambo   2022 Aug 19, 3:14pm  

Russians aren't saving us, neither are the Chinese.
I'm a Kremlin hater and so are most people who suffered under Soviet domination.
Ukraine has the distinction of losing huge numbers of it's people to starvation caused by Stalin.
Does anyone think Ukraine forgot how Russia treated it?
Trump was doing a good job but he's just one guy against the thousands of goldbrick swamp creatures, RINOS, the media and others trying to fuck him over.
Ukraine could be run by a bunch of mincing drag queens and they still will resist Russian aggression.
21   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 3:15pm  

clambo says

Can I get the Cliff Notes of the Russian story somewhere?


Why bother?

Supposedly, a Russian soldier spent the time to write a literal book about his experience, but he didn't bother to leave in attribution and he's shitting on what he was forced to do.

I think it's just more dumbass propaganda from our fucktards in "public relations", and it's aimed at Russian soldiers, not Americans.
22   Eric Holder   2022 Aug 19, 3:46pm  

richwicks says


clambo says


Can I get the Cliff Notes of the Russian story somewhere?


Why bother?

Supposedly, a Russian soldier spent the time to write a literal book about his experience, but he didn't bother to leave in attribution and he's shitting on what he was forced to do.

I think it's just more dumbass propaganda from our fucktards in "public relations", and it's aimed at Russian soldiers, not Americans.



"I didn't read it but I condemnt it wholeheartedly!" was a phrase Russian people used to comment when asked about texts like "Dr. Zhivago", "GULAG Archipelago" or "Dream" considered harmful for the Party (or the empire before CPSU existed).
23   richwicks   2022 Aug 19, 4:11pm  

Eric Holder says


"I didn't read it but I condemnt it wholeheartedly!"


Don't misquote me don't strawman me.

When I'm trying to convince somebody, I get right to the point of trying to convince them, I don't make it difficult or hard. Why do you?

Eric Holder says


was a phrase Russian people used to comment when asked about texts like "Dr. Zhivago", "GULAG Archipelago" or "Dream" considered harmful for the Party (or the empire before CPSU existed).


Dude, the Soviet Union has been gone since December 26, 1991.

People who keep invoking the LONG dead USSR, you can basically ignore anything they say about Russia.
24   Bd6r   2022 Aug 20, 8:40am  

richwicks says

See what a difference there is in my writing style versus a propagandists?

They are the same, as in wrong on facts in so many instances that CNN would be proud.

Patrick says

Can't we all just get along?

We could, if people would just stay on topic and argue facts and topic, instead of going on tangents. This type of discussion is similar to old Soviet style, where if you pin a Soviet propagandist down with facts, he yells: BUT NEGROES ARE OPPRESSED IN USA!

In any case, name-calling, refusal to look at sources, and changing the topic of discussion shows that there are no valid arguments.
26   RWSGFY   2022 Aug 20, 8:54am  

Bd6r says


richwicks says


See what a difference there is in my writing style versus a propagandists?

They are the same, as in wrong on facts in so many instances that CNN would be proud.

Patrick says


Can't we all just get along?

We could, if people would just stay on topic and argue facts and topic, instead of going on tangents. This type of discussion is similar to old Soviet style, where if you pin a Soviet propagandist down with facts, he yells: BUT NEGROES ARE OPPRESSED IN USA!

In any case, name-calling, refusal to look at sources, and changing the topic of discussion shows that there are no valid arguments.



I'm pretty sure that "richwicks" bot is Russian, drunk on steady diet of Russian TV. It's the "walks and quacks" thing. The "didn't read but it's shit anyway" was the last straw. But the other things like "the best education in the world" are pretty telling too. =)
27   richwicks   2022 Aug 20, 9:08am  

Bd6r says


richwicks says


See what a difference there is in my writing style versus a propagandists?

They are the same, as in wrong on facts in so many instances that CNN would be proud.


Then tell me what I'm wrong about and explain the reasoning so I can understand my mistake.

But you won't do that will you?

Bd6r says


Patrick says


Can't we all just get along?

We could, if people would just stay on topic and argue facts and topic, instead of going on tangents. This type of discussion is similar to old Soviet style, where if you pin a Soviet propagandist down with facts, he yells: BUT NEGROES ARE OPPRESSED IN USA!

In any case, name-calling, refusal to look at sources, and changing the topic of discussion shows that there are no valid arguments.



Who gives a shit about the USSR?

You brought up the word "facts" - let's discuss some facts. Present some and feel free to criticize anything that you believe I think is a fact, where you believe I'm in error and can demonstrate it.

I'm not only perfectly willing to have a civil reasoned discussion, I'm perfectly willing to admit I'm wrong, if you can demonstrate that I'm wrong. I make errors, but there's one very consistent thing I've noted in the last 20 years, the US lies about everything when it comes to foreign policy, every fucking thing. They've been caught lying about Russia multiple times as well. For example, saying that Ukraine wasn't in a civil war and that Russia did a "completely unprovoked attack" is bullshit. I know this, and can demonstrate it because our own media was discussing it at the time.

Now, you're free to say "there was no civil war!" - I can demonstrate there was. Right after the US overthrew Ukraine (and I can prove that) the civil war began.

Now we can't have a discussion if you're going to lie. Try to gaslight me, try to pretend things that I know for certain happened, didn't happen, and there's no basis of discussion. I know people who have told me "It was always spelled Kyiv!" - like Chicken Kyiv? You could be a weak person that just can't believe the enormity of how dishonest our government is and that our "corporate news" is really just government propaganda. If you're one of those, if you're one of those that thinks Fox news delivers news, or CNN does, or the NY Times - I can't help you. They are so, obviously, dishonest that if you're going to start using them as sources, I can't deprogram you, and if you're over 50, it's not worth it to deprogram you.

I remember back in 2014, maybe 15, that a major news network was caught trying to pass off recordings of joint military games between Ukraine and Russia as an invasion from Russia. That's how fucking dishonest our "news" is. I just ignore it, it takes horrible energy to even pay attention to it. I have shown MULTIPLE times how willing they are to lie to you, just blatantly lie to you. If you still listen to them, at this point, you're always going to be a slave to them.

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