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Baja Sur Mexico land=like buying a lot on the moon


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2023 Feb 13, 8:00pm   1,104 views  13 comments

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A land rush is on in full force.
They are selling lots next to the highway along the coast between Cabo San Lucas and Todos Santos.
This is a big stretch of coastline and it's really got gorgeous views and an almost perfect climate.
The problem is it's near nothing; there will not be water nor electricity in these places for decades probably.
Some guys will buy water from tank trucks and have solar electricity so I suppose it's not impossible if you have the cash.
It's cash buyers too; you can't get a mortgage to buy land down here. "No way Jose".
I see the ads on Facebook expat groups.
This rant is not useful but it demonstrates to me that people really go nuts buying property; you could stay in a hotel for decades before you spent the money you would need to spend to build a place in such a remote location.

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1   ElYorsh   2023 Feb 13, 8:16pm  

Owning land is a mirage for most people in Mexico, so most will go crazy for any opportunity.
2   mell   2023 Feb 13, 9:15pm  

Been to cabo, it's very nice. But nothing compared to the vast beauty and nothingness awaiting you when you cross the desert and finally reach some empty bay at the sea of cortez. Wonder if Coco is still manning his desert outpost. Like you said though, there is zero infrastructure, there are no roads through the desert, and the few extremely small villages have electricity for half of the day. Some people fly into the few desert strips near the cost. If you go by car avoiding the main highways, expect no more than 5-10mph crossing the desert, clearing rocks all the time. And if the monthly gas truck doesn't show you'll have to extend your vacation. Some of the best memories though
3   NuttBoxer   2023 Feb 14, 10:41am  

I do know an ex-electrical worker who lives off-grid in Arizona. He compared what it would take him to build it versus paying them to run a line. Did it for less, and no monthly bill, but the guy did have quite a bit of knowledge before embarking on his own setup.
4   WookieMan   2023 Feb 14, 11:08am  

NuttBoxer says

I do know an ex-electrical worker who lives off-grid in Arizona. He compared what it would take him to build it versus paying them to run a line. Did it for less, and no monthly bill, but the guy did have quite a bit of knowledge before embarking on his own setup.

It only works south of a certain point to be off grid. Would never work in IL and they're selling the fuck out of it here. People simply don't understand solar energy. 6 months of the year here you'd be lucky to keep the lights on without a massive battery backup. Yet people drop $20k of financed trash on their roof. Solar works, just not in most parts of the globe.
5   Eric Holder   2023 Feb 14, 11:16am  

WookieMan says

NuttBoxer says


I do know an ex-electrical worker who lives off-grid in Arizona. He compared what it would take him to build it versus paying them to run a line. Did it for less, and no monthly bill, but the guy did have quite a bit of knowledge before embarking on his own setup.

It only works south of a certain point to be off grid. Would never work in IL and they're selling the fuck out of it here. People simply don't understand solar energy. 6 months of the year here you'd be lucky to keep the lights on without a massive battery backup. Yet people drop $20k of financed trash on their roof. Solar works, just not in most parts of the globe.


Horses for courses.
6   clambo   2023 Feb 14, 11:19am  

This area of the world has 350 sunny days per year.
7   komputodo   2023 Feb 14, 12:03pm  

clambo says

A land rush is on in full force.
They are selling lots next to the highway along the coast between Cabo San Lucas and Todos Santos.
This is a big stretch of coastline and it's really got gorgeous views and an almost perfect climate.
The problem is it's near nothing; there will not be water nor electricity in these places for decades probably.
Some guys will buy water from tank trucks and have solar electricity so I suppose it's not impossible if you have the cash.
It's cash buyers too; you can't get a mortgage to buy land down here. "No way Jose".
I see the ads on Facebook expat groups.
This rant is not useful but it demonstrates to me that people really go nuts buying property; you could stay in a hotel for decades before you spent the money you would need to spend to build a place in such a remote location.

how about security?
8   Ceffer   2023 Feb 14, 1:36pm  

Is the land fertile for growing yams? I thought you couldn't buy land in Mexico, only long term leases?
9   HeadSet   2023 Feb 14, 2:01pm  

Ceffer says

I thought you couldn't buy land in Mexico, only long term leases?

Purchase it the same way Polk did from Santa Anna.
10   clambo   2023 Feb 14, 5:12pm  

In certain areas of Mexico, article 27 of the constitution prohibits foreigners from direct ownership.
The work around is a trust owns it and you control the trust.
It applies near the coastline and the borders.
11   ElYorsh   2023 Feb 14, 6:09pm  

cisTits says

clambo says


It applies near the coastline and the borders.


So, we can buy in Chiapas?

As long as it's not within 100 kilometers from the border or 50 from the coast.
12   ElYorsh   2023 Feb 14, 6:13pm  

clambo says

In certain areas of Mexico, article 27 of the constitution prohibits foreigners from direct ownership.
The work around is a trust owns it and you control the trust.
It applies near the coastline and the borders.

Yes. But with those types of properties there have been instances where previous "owners" claim them and invalidate the new trusts. That is what happened to a lot of expats in Baja Norte back in the 90's and early 2000's
13   Patrick   2023 Mar 9, 9:43pm  

https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-senate-bill-212-non-us-citizens-owning-land/43259652


State Senate passes bill preventing non-US citizens from owning land in Oklahoma
The bill now moves to the House for consideration.


I was quite shocked when I studied in Austria and found out that foreigners did not have the right to buy land there. But now I see that foreigners do not have any inherent right to own land in a country not their own.

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