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2023 Feb 11, 11:02pm   1,666 views  20 comments

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/nuclear-micro-reactors-to-hit-the-market/vi-AA17hYn1

Last Energy's portable or micro reactor produces 20 megawatt electricity (MWe) and costs $100 million

1 MWe provides power to 400 to 900 homes

So a 20 MWe reactor will power about 13,000 homes

So allocate $7692 to each of the 13,000 homes for startup or capital costs.

If the costs are distributed for 50 years over the life cycle or service life of the reactor plant, than that is $154 per home per year.

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1   richwicks   2023 Feb 12, 4:36am  

I'm doubtful that this is close to becoming a reality.
2   Booger   2023 Feb 12, 7:45am  

They will go into factories, waste water treatment plants, or other facilities that use a lot of electricity first.
3   Shaman   2023 Feb 12, 9:26am  

Yah the government won’t allow it without adding another $100 million in regulations and regulators. Then you have to pay to maintain the electrical grid that supplies the power to individual homes. That means you have to hire a decent number of people. Add more people to deal with regulatory issues and HR, management, and a board, and that $153/year goes up to $400/year. Which still isn’t bad, so they definitely won’t allow it to become a reality.
4   Ceffer   2023 Feb 12, 9:54am  

Rockefellers will find a way to assassinate everybody in the production chain and mount MSM fake news panic environmental assaults.
Three Mile Island was a false flag. They CAN'T have alternative energy sources that are cheap and effective and threaten their control grid. That, and FEMA (should be FFMA i.e. False Flag Emergency Madeup Administration) involvement to steer the fake emergencies to suspend rights for political ends targeting the American people. FEMA is in charge of the stealth concentration camps in America.
Again, From 'Conspirators' Hierarchy' from early 90's:

5   Patrick   2023 Feb 12, 2:14pm  

The attempt to kill us off by jacking up the cost of energy makes micro reactors seem l like a reasonable idea to me.

Less centralization is good for the people and bad for the elite.
6   Tenpoundbass   2023 Feb 12, 4:21pm  

We have so many ways to make electricity, and everyone advocates there should only be one way, or they act like it hasn't been invented yet.
Some ways are and always will be more practical than others.

I wonder just how micro they could scale nuclear energy if they tried?
I imagine the amount of material needed for a generator to power just one house, or a Power train for a vehicle, the danger would be miniscule.
I think we have never explored it due to the possibility of weaponization of consumer nuclear power, and the hippy politics.
7   HeadSet   2023 Feb 12, 6:21pm  

richwicks says

I'm doubtful that this is close to becoming a reality.

True. Now we do have a sort of micro-nuke plant in nuke subs and aircraft carriers.
8   Misc   2023 Feb 12, 11:22pm  

There's no need to Fear....Mr. Fusion is on the Way ! ! ! !
9   stfu   2023 Feb 13, 4:15am  

Yeah this has been a thing for a long time. Article from 2007 describes Toshiba's efforts. I believe I saw news stories on mini reactors long before this too.
https://www.wired.com/2007/12/toshibas-home-n/
10   Misc   2023 Feb 13, 5:28am  

Bill Gates holds some patents on the mini reactors.
11   zzyzzx   2023 Feb 13, 7:51am  

I can think of a few more good applications:
Large airports.
Huge ships, not just Navy ships like now.
Large casino hotels or resorts.
12   Booger   2023 Feb 13, 8:48am  

I think that micro nuclear power plants would be placed at existing power plants of all types and substations. Power plants actually use a lot of electricity in the power generation process.
13   thenuttyneutron   2023 Feb 13, 4:25pm  

I 100% support using small and micro reactors to supply our power needs. I am also 100% against using wind and solar for grid scale power.

We could greatly reduce the risk of a large geo magnetic storm due to space weather by having small grids powered by small reactors. The advanced reactors can also be designed to be "black start" capable and able to handle a full load reject without tripping. You would basically have a grid that would be nearly impossible to take out if you allowed engineers to design it instead of relying on politics.
14   thenuttyneutron   2023 Feb 13, 4:29pm  

richwicks says

I'm doubtful that this is close to becoming a reality.

If we let stupid people dictate policy, you would be correct. Look at the reactor being designed by BWXT called Pelee.

I think there is a strong possibility that cheap and clean power will be a strong political force when the average Joe sees their standard of living continue to drop going forward. The anti nukes have already lost the narrative.
15   richwicks   2023 Feb 13, 6:12pm  

zzyzzx says

Huge ships, not just Navy ships like now.


I think the only nuclear powered ships (not subs) are Russian ice breakers, and they are beasts.

https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Nuclear-powered_icebreaker
16   richwicks   2023 Feb 13, 6:14pm  

thenuttyneutron says

richwicks says


I'm doubtful that this is close to becoming a reality.

If we let stupid people dictate policy, you would be correct.


We don't let stupid people dictate our policy, we let sociopaths dictate our policy.

Let me give you a quick example. Why isn't email, by default, encrypted? We've had this ability since PGP email and that was invented in the 1990's, so why isn't email encrypted by default? It's trivial to do? Because the government doesn't want it encrypted, and why is that?

They aren't stupid, they're evil.
17   WookieMan   2023 Feb 13, 8:21pm  

richwicks says

I think the only nuclear powered ships (not subs) are Russian ice breakers, and they are beasts.

We have 11 nuclear powered aircraft carriers... I think some destroyers are nuked as well. https://radiationworks.com/nuclearships.htm

Small nukes have been around for a while now. We have 70+ subs, but I note you mention that's not part of the count. We have probably ~100 crafts in the sea that run on nuclear power.

I'm glad the Russians can break ice though. They need to if they lose Crimea back to Ukraine and lose the warm(ish) water port. They're kind of fucked in winter without it. That's all this has ever been about. I don't support either country, but I kind of support our weapons advancement at fucking up other countries that are adversaries and not putting boots on the ground.

Without using nukes Russia is fucked. So is Ukraine. Let them demolish their demographics for a decade plus. Russia could have just annexed and purchased the land they wanted. They're drunk fucking idiots. So are the Ukies. This conflict was 100% avoidable. The entire conflict is just shooting range material for the US and the west. I'm fine with that. 1st world Europeans have no interest in a world war. They'll proxy it to the max. Russia clearly doesn't have the military might to do anything. We're just throwing weapons at it and not manpower or industry.

Mind you Russia will likely win, but this is more retarded than our Afghan and Iraq BS. Russia wanted a land bridge to Ukraine/Crimea. That's literally what this escalated over. A fucking real estate transaction. Not Nazi's or Nato.
18   richwicks   2023 Feb 13, 8:28pm  

WookieMan says


I'm glad the Russians can break ice though. They need to if they lose Crimea back to Ukraine and lose the warm(ish) water port.


I do not think Russia has any chance of losing this war.

Ukraine is reported (perhaps falsely) to be using chemical weapons in this war now. If this is true, it opens the door for Russia to do anything.

Russia has nothing to lose at this point by going hard as a motherfucker against these stupid assholes. Can't negotiate with the United States' "diplomats", EU is a bunch of bought off quislings to the CIA, Russia's energy exports will not be allowed to the EU.

Russia is now in the position the United States was 40 years ago in that they just need to tell the truth to turn the population against their governments. EU citizenry will suffer in this war, and the war depends on a crazy house of cards of propaganda. That's what the USSR depended on. Samizdat and Radio Free America took them out.

I'm not a very religious person, at all, but who is the Prince of Lies, and who are the biggest liars in the world today?

The US government wouldn't have to deceive the population, if they were in the right. I may not be religious, but there's goddamned certainly a real war between good and evil.

WookieMan says

Without using nukes Russia is fucked.


Then they will use nuclear weapons.
19   zzyzzx   2023 Mar 14, 10:44am  

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nuclear-reactor-us-started-last-120000409.html

OK, not a micro reactor or anything but still:

A new nuclear reactor in the US started up last week — the country's first in nearly 7 years.

Earlier this week, Georgia Power announced that its Vogtle Unit 3 reactor has safely reached 'initial criticality.'

Nuclear Regulatory Commission spokesperson Scott Burnell told CNBC that this marked the first nuclear reactor to achieve initial criticality since May 2016.

Georgia Power expects Vogtle Unit 3 to be fully in service in May or June this year.

The company’s CEO said that the unit should be able to produce “clean and emission-free energy for the next 60 to 80 years.”
20   rocketjoe79   2023 Mar 14, 2:50pm  

Commercial reactors are refueled every 3-4 years because they use low-enriched fuel (less than 10%) for safety and ease of handling. 2-3 reactors per site are typically employed so they can operate during refueling outages.
Military nuclear reactors for ships use near-weapons-grade fuel @ ~90% enrichment. They aren't supposed to be refueled but once every major refit, hopefully about 20 years. The hull is literally cut open and the reactor core is removed and replaced. Ship-board reactors can be used as a temporary shore power supply, which has been done several times in the Hawaii Islands after tsunamis. The limiting operational factor is a cool water supply to carry away waste heat. This usually isn't an issue for a naval vessel.

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