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mell says

Has anybody advocated for violence in here? You should alert Patrick if so. I can't find anything suspicious.

Look for persons who stop just befor the line of advocating violence. This would be the tactic fbi employs, as they cant do it themselves, just push others over the line.

Bd6r says

Look for persons who stop just befor the line of advocating violence. This would be the tactic fbi employs, as they cant do it themselves, just push others over the line.

Always the unspecified:

"We need to DO something"

Usually prefaced with "Voting won't work".

America was subverted for over 60 years, we ain't cleaning it all up in 10 years regardless if everything goes our way. At least 20-30, and it won't be a straight path.

The great thing about the Corporate RadLeft is that they have one or none. And since they mostly recruit by Education, that's where to start, break up the Teacher Union Monopoly with Vouchers. Saves money AND will create countless indy schools.

Voting WILL work on the lower levels in the vast majority of places, the majority of the time.

Update on Kari Lake's appeal ... interesting interview in which she enumerates upon all the election fraud that took place:

Kari Lake: “Everyone Knows That Katie Hobbs Didn’t Win and That She’s a Fraud Sitting in the Governor’s Office”

https://discernreport.com/kari-lake-everyone-knows-that-katie-hobbs-didnt-win-and-that-shes-a-fraud-sitting-in-the-governors-office/

https://slaynews.com/news/expert-witness-testifies-katie-hobbs-working-mexican-cartel-launder-money-rig-elections-open-border/

Expert Witness Testifies Katie Hobbs Working with Mexican Cartel to Launder Money, Rig Elections, Open Border

An expert witness has given an explosive testimony before the Arizona Joint Elections Committee, exposing widespread corruption in the upper echelons of the state’s government.

This week, the Arizona Senate and House Elections Committees heard testimony and presentations from multiple individuals regarding election anomalies.

Expert witnesses were called to present evidence of potential fraud in Arizona’s elections.

Forensic financial investigator Jacqueline Breger blew the lid off the hearing when she made several bombshell allegations during her testimony.

According to Breger, the recently installed governor, Democrat Katie Hobbs, and several other top Arizona officials have been working with Mexico’s deadly Sinaloa Cartel for years.

Breger detailed her findings during the hearing that suggest Hobbs has been working with the dangerous Mexican cartel to launder money, keep the border open for drug smuggling and human trafficking, and rig elections to keep cartel-friendly officials in power.

You mean it wasn't all Soros after all, or an unholy alliance with the cartels as well?:
"Treason! . . . Katie Hobbs, Runbeck Election Services & The Sinaloa Cartel (Video)z". "Do you solemnly swear to protect the Fentanyl, the whole Fentanyl, and nothing but the Fentanyl, so help you God?";

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218032https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitchute.com%2Fvideo%2FdcJa66cjfec5%2F

Ceffer says

Just embedding it:


original link

"Ground Zero for electile dsyfunction". LOL!

https://thelibertydaily.com/bombshell-expert-witness-reveals-installed-az-governor-katie-hobbs-laundered-cartel-money-through-fake-deeds-and-mortgages-to-rig-elections-including-her-own/

Ceffer says

He’s a fucking imbecile for including his government capacity title on his personal account and stating it’s his personal account.

George
@BehizyTweets
Here's why #ArrestKatieHobbs is trending worldwide

John Thaler of Harris/Thaler Law Firm claims he uncovered absolute proof showing that the Sinaloa cartel (formerly led by El Chapo) bribes high-ranking officials in Arizona including Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, Kris Mayes, etc. The cartel allegedly uses this influence to rig Arizona's elections, launder money using falsified trust deeds for single-family purchases, successfully traffick drugs/humans through the southern border, etc.

Thaler claims that the cartel uses intimidation tactics to silence anyone that may be a threat to their extensive racketeering

The investigator also includes a declaration showing that in October 2020, they discovered 25,000 falsified ballots at a Maricopa County residence belonging to someone they were investigating with lots of cash involved.

Thaler claims his team reviewed 120,000 documents in Arizona and found tens of thousands of direct pieces of evidence proving the allegations.

This is just a snippet of a much BIGGER story that deserves all the attention. Thaler is an attorney, and I doubt he'd be bringing these allegations forward without having all the corresponding evidence

Remember that many of the cartels are military trained and financed by Rockefellers and CIA, some directly in Washington DC. Drug laws only exist to extradite and execute/imprison competitors who wander from the Rockefeller reservation. The profits are re-patriated to them. Why do you think a bunch of Arizona political honkeys feel so immune and relentless? Fucking guy took a 'vacation' in Panama where they do all the money laundering in plain open sight?

Does look like they may become cashiered useful idiot style, though. Plenty more where they came from. One could only hopium.

The longer Republicans cling to election conspiracy theories, the longer Democrats will enjoy victories in otherwise red states.

Nomograph says

The longer Republicans cling to election conspiracy theories, the longer Democrats will enjoy victories in otherwise red states.

What are you talking about?

It's trivial to make balloting verifiable and the only reason it's not done, is we don't have real elections. That ended in 2004 when exit polls were ended.

This is not democrat versus republican, it's criminals versus everybody else.

"You too can have fun and make big bucks by becoming another captured Rockefeller Cartel leader. No worries about political funding or annoying votes. Apply today."

Kari Lake Attorney Kurt Olsen Shows How Maricopa County Rigged Signature Verification Process

(There was no signature verification. Virtually every ballot was approved, and, typically, in under 3 seconds)

https://rumble.com/v2od48u-kari-lake-attorney-kurt-olsen-shows-how-maricopa-county-rigged-signature-ve.html

WATCH LIVE FROM MARICOPA COUNTY COURT ROOM: Kari Lake’s Trial on Fraudulent 2022 Election Signature Verification – Begins at 9AM PST
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/watch-live-from-maricopa-county-court-room-kari-lakes-trial-on-fraudulent-2022-election-signature-verification-begins-at-9am-pst/

Here's just a couple of samples of ballots that were ACCEPTED:

The march to make America a Third World failed state continues:

The "judge" decided to ignore overwhelming, indisputable, concrete evidence that the election was stolen ...

JUST-IN: Judge Tosses Kari Lake’s Lawsuit After Trial on Fraudulent Signature Verification Shows AT LEAST 274,000 Ballots Were Verified in Less Than 3 Seconds – ORDER INCLUDED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/05/just-judge-tosses-kari-lakes-lawsuit-after-trial/

The Judge that sent it back to the original judge that scoffed at it, should removed from the bench.
We know Liberals don't like to be told they were wrong, and will not change their opinion in light of new facts that says otherwise. They double down.

RayAmerica says

The "judge" decided to ignore overwhelming, indisputable, concrete evidence that the election was stolen ...

That judge may have been threatened by the cartels, who do not want Kari Lake to win and thus replace the cartel's bought and paid for governor.

HeadSet says

RayAmerica says

The "judge" decided to ignore overwhelming, indisputable, concrete evidence that the election was stolen ...

That judge may have been threatened by the cartels, who do not want Kari Lake to win and thus replace the cartel's bought and paid for governor.

Look, I'm going to be blunt.

If these judges can be threatened by cartels or whatever, we need to simply fucking kill them. They get status and money and position as compensation for the risk they take. If they refuse to take that burden, they are traitors.

Until heads, LITERALLY start to roll, we're stuck with this.

I'm not advocating murder, but I'm saying straight out, murder might be necessary. They have to be afraid of the population, not the criminals.

richwicks says

Until heads, LITERALLY start to roll, we're stuck with this.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

The only thing the satanistic pedo psychos fear is death. Anything else is pissing into the wind.

EDIT: Now that I've typed the above, I guess that's what distinguishes good (or a subset of good, the Christians) from evil. Evil fears its own demise, good will sacrifice itself to save lives other than one's own.

stereotomy says

richwicks says

Until heads, LITERALLY start to roll, we're stuck with this.

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

The only thing the satanistic pedo psychos fear is death. Anything else is pissing into the wind.

EDIT: Now that I've typed the above, I guess that's what distinguishes good (or a subset of good, the Christians) from evil. Evil fears its own demise, good will sacrifice itself to save lives other than one's own.

I'd agree with that.

But be cautious, there's a thin line between good and fanaticism. You have to really be very certain about what you're doing.

I'm not willing to kill, but I'm willing to be killed.

I honestly think the basic problem is that you can't get the average person to understand "this person, REALLY is evil". They cannot believe people are so fucking corrupt and evil. If they could understand just how corrupt and evil these assholes are, they could deal with them properly, humanely. They are just sociopaths, they are sick, they are mentally sick.

There's my liberal side. These people need treatment but I've worked with violent animals in dog rescue, and there's times you can't fix the problem, or at least I couldn't, and I really tried. At some point, you have to cut your losses. If I had a dog, it was displacing some other dog somewhere.

richwicks says

If these judges can be threatened by cartels or whatever, we need to simply fucking kill them.

You need to stop buying the cartel's products. The reason someone like Pelosi went from pro closed borders just a short time ago to wide open borders is likely a Plata o Plomo talk with a cartel rep. "We can make you richer, or we can make you and your children dead." Pelosi knows she is powerless to stop that threat (the CIA could easily neutralize a cartel, but the CIA is likely in on the action - the "White Hand" as Sam Giacona called them). Judges are even less powerful to resist as they take pressure from not only the cartel, but pressure from cartel controlled politicians like AZ's current Governor.

When I hear of someone ODing on fentanyl or heroin I think "GOOD!." The users deliberately put these poisons into their systems after enriching the most vicious criminals in history. I am against narcan. Why would one expect a judge to risk their life when one cannot not even restrain from using illegal drugs?

HeadSet says

That judge may have been threatened by the cartels, who do not want Kari Lake to win and thus replace the cartel's bought and paid for governor.

The case was redirected to the lower court from the higher court for review. One could presume from the outset that the corrupt lower courts would remain outlandishly corrupt. However, the voters of Arizona are fuming furious, and it got the fraud onto official court transcripts at length.

How this will wend into appeals is the next matter. This is where our buddy CisTits would have had some useful commentary.

richwicks says

Until heads, LITERALLY start to roll, we're stuck with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Directe

If the left hand can punch, so can the right hand.

apex says

richwicks says

Until heads, LITERALLY start to roll, we're stuck with this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_Directe

Again, I don't want to resort to murder, but what are the other available options when you have a corrupt government official?

I don't live in Arizona, I don't care about it. I don't need to deal with this bullshit. But for people that are there, what you do you suggest? How do you fix a situation when a judge ignores the fucking law of who you elect? What can you do?

When the law itself ignores the law, I don't see any other option other than outright revolt and that means very commonly murder, and war is murder and revolution is often war.

I'm not advocating this, I'm saying it's inevitable if this continues.

These mother fuckers need to stand down, and they won't.

apex says

If the left hand can punch, so can the right hand.

This is absolutely a false dichotomy.

It's not between left and right, it's right and wrong. We need a moral just government.

richwicks says

Again, I don't want to resort to murder, but what are the other available options when you have a corrupt government official?

This is the "White Supremacy" that Biden and the DOJ say is the worst threat to our democracy.

People that understand history, know that we live in a republic and will only let the government go so far, is what the current government fears.

Unfortunately at this stage in history what Rich wrote above, taken out of context, could be construed as instigation of violence against the government, aka insurrection. Since Rich is very white, as are many of us here, that would make us "White Supremists" because we believe in truth, justice and the American way. I imagine we're already on a list with records of all of our wrong thinks.

I have met Patrick and Rich and know they are not violent and would never condone violence other than in self defense.

We're not quite there yet. When the IRS forms a swat unit we will be.

Onvacation says

This is the "White Supremacy" that Biden and the DOJ say is the worst threat to our democracy.

I know. They are being preemptive.

Onvacation says

People that understand history, know that we live in a republic and will only let the government go so far, is what the current government fears.

We haven't been in a republic for at least 30 years, maybe much longer than that. I think it was George H. Bush that scuttled our republic. I might go back to JFK, or even Lincoln.

Onvacation says

Unfortunately at this stage in history what Rich wrote above, taken out of context, could be construed as instigation of violence against the government, aka insurrection. Since Rich is very white, as are many of us here, that would make us "White Supremists" because we believe in truth, justice and the American way. I imagine we're already on a list with records of all of our wrong thinks.

Haha. I'm on a list, certainly.

I want to reform our system, not destroy it, but reform does seem impossible. I wanted reform 30 years ago, and there's been no reform just doubling down, again, and again, and again, and again, until we ended up in Clown World.

Can we reform this? It seems impossible when all these assholes do is double down no matter how much they lose.

Everything is exposed, and they just continue to do this shit. We know they are fucking liars and criminals, we can see them, they just continue.

I still think the answer is expose, expose, expose. You need the population at your back.

richwicks says

Again, I don't want to resort to murder, but what are the other available options when you have a corrupt government official?

"Those who make a peaceful revolution impossible will make a violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy

It is not our nature to choose subterfuge, chicanery and violence -- but these scruples of ours are the left's strongest ally.

Not everyone is driven by honor and justice. For many, the only thing that keeps them from engaging in corruption is the fear of righteous retribution. When that is taken off the table, they have nothing restraining them.

One of the biggest, ongoing cons that the media, justice system, etc. perpetrates is that judges are politically impartial and unbiased. I'll go a step further; the entire law enforcement apparatus is biased. I know this from personal experience, having served as an Assistant Foreman for 13 weeks on the Grand Jury. I won't go into all the boring details, but trust me when I say this, the entire law enforcement/justice system is rigged. Whatever you do, don't ever do anything that will allow you to fall into their hands.

apex says

Not everyone is driven by honor and justice.

Extremely few people are driven by honor and justice. And often those that now have that morality did not always have it. Everyone likes to believe they themselves are moral, even those who pad expense accounts, cheat on taxes, hire illegals, steal sodas from the defective soda machine, and other theft where they have no fear of consequences. If we had a moral public people like Biden would not make it out of a primary.

HeadSet says

Extremely few people are driven by honor and justice. And often those that now have that morality did not always have it. Everyone likes to believe they themselves are moral, even those who pad expense accounts, cheat on taxes, hire illegals, steal sodas from the defective soda machine, and other theft where they have no fear of consequences. If we had a moral public people like Biden would not make it out of a primary.

That's a very profound, and accurate observation. After reading it, I was reminded of this:
"Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?" - Proverbs 20:6 (KJV)

Over the years, I've known quite a few con artist types that are able to fool other people with their charming personalities. A mistake too often made is to judge people's character by mixing it with their personality traits. This is profoundly evident when it comes to politicians, who are typically masters at manipulating crowds of people by telling them what they want to hear. The same is true for 'religion,' where charlatans have a field day.

I never forgot Ronald Reagan's summation of the old Soviet Union when it came to treaties: "Trust, but verify." The same can be applied across the human board of experience whenever dealing with other human beings, regardless of the situation.

RayAmerica says

One of the biggest, ongoing cons that the media, justice system, etc. perpetrates is that judges are politically impartial and unbiased.

Huh? The whole battle over who gets to nominate judges is an immediate giveaway. If judges were impartial there won't be confirmation battles, borking, etc.