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richwicks says

I'm surprised there are no comments on this.

Maybe the children are priced too high. Perhaps when the price comes down.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

I'm surprised there are no comments on this.

Maybe the children are priced too high. Perhaps when the price comes down.

This isn't a joke. Those are human beings. I wouldn't treat a dog that way.

When I was still involved in fostering and rehabilitation for dogs, we made people come to us, and we charged them money not because it paid for their care, but so they had an investment in the dog's life. Last dog cost me about $1,400, adoption fee was $500.

We gave a shit.

How do we live in a nation where CHILDREN can be passed around? We're primitives now.

richwicks says

This isn't a joke.

Sorry, I did not watch the video. If my joke is thus offensive, I will delete it.

The whole comment is gone after I tried to put the link as well. Road to hell paved with good intentions, state is bad, etc etc.

GUINEA PIG KIDS - FULL BBC DOCUMENTARY (2004)

I'm including the link to the original video so people can follow the person that posted it.

Do not delete links, even if you disagree with the person. You can be wrong.

richwicks says

GUINEA PIG KIDS - FULL BBC DOCUMENTARY (2004)

I'm including the link to the original video so people can follow the person that posted it.

Do not delete links, even if you disagree with the person. You can be wrong.

Tell that to the code. I tried to post both the link and the embed video and it completely overwrote my comment asking me to edit it and "only post one video at a time."

DhammaStep says

Tell that to the code. I tried to post both the link and the embed video and it completely overwrote my comment asking me to edit it and "only post one video at a time."

This happens if you try to post two videos at once. Patrick controls that if you just post two links to videos. I've been frustrated by that myself, however I see his reasoning. I could post 20 videos simultaneously. This can crash your web browser - You have to appreciate what he's experienced.

You may think allowing free communication is hands off, it's not. I've done this myself, but ages ago, you need rules to prevent malicious intent, and those rules can infringe on non malicious intent. It's a balance.

This is why you need to retain links:


original link

I was fiercely against the Iraq war. That's from the same poster. I regard that war as absolutely indefensible. It's over 20 years old, and nobody has shown me to be wrong in that time. Perhaps I am wrong, but if I am, nobody in 20 years has explained it to me.

If I am wrong, I just don't understand how I am wrong. Over 20 years, I have to conclude I'm not wrong, I'm right. That was a battle and a pyrrhic victory. There is horrific damage done for being right on the onset.

richwicks says

You may think allowing free communication is hands off, it's not.

How condescending. You proclaimed that one shouldn't "delete links." I then explained that I couldn't do both a link and an embed in the same post. I never deleted any links.

Edit: Test:

original link

DhammaStep says

richwicks says

You may think allowing free communication is hands off, it's not.

How condescending. You proclaimed that one shouldn't "delete links." I then explained that I couldn't do both a link and an embed in the same post. I never deleted any links.

I'm not being condescending, I don't understand entirely how this platform works.

My understanding is that if you post a video, and remove the link to the "original video" is done by you, intentionally. I don't want to bother Patrick with this, but you can if you wish. It's his site, and there's not money in this, it's a pain in the ass for him or anybody to maintain this.

richwicks says

DhammaStep says

richwicks says

You may think allowing free communication is hands off, it's not.

How condescending. You proclaimed that one shouldn't "delete links." I then explained that I couldn't do both a link and an embed in the same post. I never deleted any links.

I'm not being condescending, I don't understand entirely how this platform works.

My understanding is that if you post a video, and remove the link to the "original video" is done by you, intentionally. I don't want to bother Patrick with this, but you can if you wish. It's his site, and there's not money in this, it's a pain in the ass for him or anybody to maintain this.

Incorrect assumption. If you simply post the link, it automatically embeds however @Patrick set it to do so, with the "original link." I used the embed code directly from the site, which does not include an "original link" hyperlink.

Edit: moving forward, I will just copy paste the link without an embed code, on the rare occasions I do post videos.

DhammaStep says

Incorrect assumption. If you simply post the link, it automatically embeds however Patrick set it to do so, with the "original link." I used the embed code directly from the site, which does not include an "original link" hyperlink.

I didn't know that. I helped Patrick ages ago to set it up to post links from Bitchute. I suppose this is in part my fault

@Patrick - with sites from www.bitchute.com with the "embed" link, replace it with "video" to include the original link.

See how engineers fuck up? We do our best, be we can't predict everything. You monkeys are too smart and we are too stupid. This is really true, when I was at WebTV we literally had people trying to break the product by doing random bullshit. Truly, it's impossible to see what people will do. We don't have the brains to predict it.

Anyway, back on topic. Children are in danger and we've done a terrible job protecting them.

DhammaStep says

Anyway, back on topic. Children are in danger and we've done a terrible job protecting them.

WE? We trusted the government. I suggest we catapult them into fucking space. Their job is oversight, and this is happening under their watch. Meanwhile we have a pervert pedophile as president, Nancy Pelosi doing insider trading, and a bunch of assholes egging on WWIII.

I stopped trusting the government 20 years ago, they are a crooked criminal mafia. See it for what it is, and pass it on. We have to reform it, and if we can't do that, abolish it.

richwicks says

Their job is oversight, and this is happening under their watch.

You'll never get them to actually do their jobs until your space catapult or equivalent consequence seems real to them.

richwicks says

I did dog rescue and fostering, this is fucking fucked up this exists in our nation, we did more research in rehoming a DOG than these fuckers do. This is child slavery. Our government allows this. Fuck our fucking fucked up fucking government. They don't protect us, or anybody. This is horrific.

I watched a short bit of the video. You do get what this is? It's to fuck kids to get to the point quickly. Kids with no recourse or person to turn to.

No one knows he's my nephew because he's black, but trust me when I tell you people adopt kids to sexually abuse them. We get the side eye as the white parents with a black kid in tote. What do you think a pervert is going to do with an attractive 13 year old girl? That has no family or anyone to tell the truth to? The system is fucked for kids without family.

My nephew is fortunate enough to have us AND still have a relationship with his mom. She fucked up bigly, but she's still a part of his life. I don't fuck kids, but god knows where he would have gone if it was to some random family. I'm not perfect, but boys need a dude in their life regardless of how good mom is.

I go on tangents as witnessed here. We'll sometimes talk the 4 of us for 2 hours straight. No electronics, no tv, etc. My wife hates it when she's around because I don't parse words. I will swear and say off cuff things. Have yet to get a disciplinary call from the school to date. So they at least know not to use the words I'm saying publicly.

We were up in Duluth, MN and our car got egged. My oldest started yelling "you mother fuckers!!!" and all I could do was laugh. Of course told him that wasn't appropriate but I still laugh about it. He wasn't wrong.

But back to the OP, fostering and adoption is sick. This is where I'm torn on abortion. Have at it if you can't take care of a human. I personally wouldn't want to experience life bouncing from home to home and likely being sexually assaulted. We could have put up 5 layers of wall on the southern border with what we sent to Ukraine. I don't trust government agencies with adoption and foster care. I'd rather be dead than live that life.

WookieMan says

But back to the OP, fostering and adoption is sick. This is where I'm torn on abortion.

My father, and his sister - my aunt, are both adopted. Grandpa (or grandma?) couldn't have kids. I don't know who my "real" grandfather is, but my adopted grandfather was a good man and so was his wife. I miss them from time to time, good people. Although I am not biologically related to them, they were truly my grandparents.

So it's not entirely fucked up, it's not entirely evil. My father does not remember a time where he was in "adoption". I've not asked my aunt.

My brother was also adopted. The plan for my father and mother was to adopt a son and a daughter, but I was born. Mom was Catholic, and I think the rhythm method doesn't work. Had I not been born, they would have adopted a daughter. My adopted brother was 2 when he was adopted. My parents are good people as well. I think my brother had a hard time as a toddler before he was adopted. I think he's resolved all of his issues now, but he had issues I think.

There's real evil in the world. I used to be an acerbic atheist, but evil exists. It's a real thing. I don't know if there is an afterlife of any sort, but there's a sort of god, there's a creator, and there's evil and good, without doubt. Whether god is sentient or just a process with no consciousness, I do not know, but there is a creator or some kind. Consciousness may even be non existent within us, it may only be a simulacrum.

If I was a bigger man, maybe I would adopt a kid, save them but I know from experience I can save a dog, but a human being? I don't think I can. My parents could, my grandparents could. I can't always save a dog either, I've had animals so fucked up, so abused, so traumatized, I had to put them down. That's just a dog. I turned a lot around, but not everyone. I have cut my losses with them. It's a horrible thing when you can't fix it, and I was the sucker of my foster group, the soft heart, I'd take anything, entirely confident I could fix it, until I ran into the one I couldn't.

I have two nieces that do dog fostering and rescue as well. There's some pathology in our family.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

I'm surprised there are no comments on this.

Maybe the children are priced too high. Perhaps when the price comes down.

Speaking from the point of view of somebody that fostered/rehabilitated DOGS, which are not people - the adoption fee only exists to prove commitment to caring for the animal. A "free" animal is worthless. We know that.

My last dog cost me $1,400 for vet bills, our rescue group charged $500 for her adoption fee. We require money spent not to keep us solvent, we require it to have some confidence that the adopter won't consider they are doing the animal "a favor". The purpose is to verify the person wants the animal.

We can't control what is done with the animal after it leaves us, however, we are in competition with shelters - if a person is just taking the animal to do some viscous thing to it, that's where they will go, not us.

richwicks says

If I was a bigger man, maybe I would adopt a kid, save them but I know from experience I can save a dog, but a human being? I don't think I can.

Adoption isn't inherently evil. But I apply the 80/20 rule to it. 80% of adults that adopt are fucked up people. They get mental over the fact they can't have kids and end up manipulating them. Then there's some that want to diddle the kids they adopt. Or it's a keeping up with the Jones' type thing where "look at me I adopted the black or Mexican boy" and they don't really give a shit about them. It's status.

Dogs are different though. I love dogs. Human children are an entirely different thing if the parents are still around. It's not like momma dog is gonna come bark at you. I have a 3rd person judging my every move. I still have 2 of my own kids. How do I treat the nephew? Not that it matters to me, but he's black. I think we're doing a good job, but it seriously is a conversation every day about him. I then feel like I'm neglecting my own children. Or then I'm neglecting my nephew because he's not mine. Then I get angry because why was this our burden?

It's why I go to therapy. I know "soy boy" or whatever. It helps. I love my life, but I'm not sure most here could manage it if put in my shoes. When your wife has 4 sisters and an alcoholic, pill popping widow mother, family structure breaks down. It did bigly this week. As much as I may sound like an idiot here, I'm the only adult in the room besides my wife. Should be a "fun" Easter....

I'll never go to therapy, I know that 90%+ of psychologists are fucked the hell up and are the last people who should be telling other people wtf is wrong with them.

WookieMan says

It's why I go to therapy.

You're just paying for a friend to dump on.

I will caution you with psychologists. I went to the University at Buffalo in NY. I knew a TON of people who were going for psychology, they almost all thought they were "fucked up", and went into the field to "fix themselves". Psychology is NOT a science. I have no confidence in this field whatsoever.

You're fine, talk it out. When there is disagreement, it's either something you don't understand or know, or something they don't understand or know. We all have the same logistical process. When people raise their voices or express anger, it's because you're hitting a barrier, that's a breakthrough - something they or you are unwilling to accept. This is an expression of revulsion. Subdue it, research it, resolve it. Almost every time I've been angry, I've found I've been wrong in some way.

I have said this many times before, but I'll say it again. As a junior engineer I had a mentor that encouraged me to remove all my cognitive dissonance while solving a problem - he was talking only in terms of my job but I extended this to my entire life. Cognitive dissonance is when you have two conflicting beliefs, at LEAST one is wrong, and you can eliminate the conflict by eliminating one belief. I don't just do this for work, I do this all the time. You may have two beliefs that are incorrect but eliminate one, and later, you'll eliminate the other in time. Do this for years and you will have almost no cognitive dissonance.

People are programmed, PROGRAMMED, to think that when they are wrong, they are stupid and nobody wants to think they are "stupid". They aren't stupid, they are simply wrong. Don't be afraid of being wrong. There's no shame in error. All real learning is done by recognizing your own errors - but it will remain. Nobody is perfect. You can however approach near perfection, but you'll never get there.