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The bad side of Japan (or at least Tokyo)


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2011 Jun 14, 11:47pm   13,124 views  30 comments

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There is some interest here so I will post this side.

(1) Japan doesn't honor the UN convention on childhood abductions (but this *might* change).

(2) Forced confessions by police. They can keep you for 21 days without even allowing you a single call.

(3) People (especially in Tokyo) are either way too busy (usually with work or studying) or they have too much time on their hands (few are at a happy medium).

(4) Dangerous cyclists on sidewalks...it has really gotten worse since 2005.

(5) The suicide rate is one of the highest in the world. In terms of numbers over 30,000 per year.

(6) Too much complaining by people without any accompanying action, just getting drunk.

(7) Still too many smokers (most of which have bad manners). Finally fewer than 50% or men now smoke here (but the rate was 60% in 1995)...

(8) Soft punishment for those under 20 who commit major crimes. They can literally get away with murder.

#crime

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10   zzyzzx   2012 May 11, 12:22am  

American in Japan says

(4) Dangerous cyclists on sidewalks...it has really gotten worse since 2005.

Could you elaborate on this some? I'm having trouble understanding this one.

11   clambo   2012 May 11, 5:26am  

I had fun in Japan but I had a special situation. I had a lot of spending cash at the time.
When in Tokyo with money to spend, you can have fun because everyone is out and about every night of the week. The restaurants abound.
I did see guys getting drunk off their asses. One time I watched a guy puking on the train stairs, etc.
I saw drunk guys pissing in the street and laughed and my Japanese companion said "Don't draw attention to them! It's impolite!" I laughed again, "like pissing in the sidewalk is polite here?"
But generally it's fun in Japan, people are normally polite and friendly. I liked traveling around there.
I met a couple of girls which makes it much more fun of course.
The interesting thing to see for me was contrasting modern with ancient. The guy used an abacus to figure my change when I bought my shinkansen train ticket.
I saw little old ladies doing manual labor in the countryside. They wore bonnets and were cute but it's weird to see someone's mother shoveling gravel at a road project.
The nicest place I saw is where the tsnuami hit worst. I think that area was just awesome and it's a shame.
If I hit lotto I would go back and visit and travel around. It's cool over there. I of course would NOT try to live there because you are not Japanese pal. You will never be Japanese and you will be constantly reminded of it.
The fun of being an outsider is the novelty factor, which helps for meeting chicks. But, after a while you dislike feeling like a zoo animal. I would at least.
You could spend a fortune to eat but there were reasonable places too. I ate ramen if I wanted to slum it.
I also got as sick in Tokyo as I did living in Mexico. Luckily it only lasted a few days.

12   American in Japan   2012 May 14, 1:41am  

You might not have seen my first list about what I love about Japan. Here it is: /?p=657601

@zzyzzx

Cyclists ride like crazy on the (often crowded) sidewalks, often while talking on cell phones or even texting...

13   zzyzzx   2012 May 14, 2:12am  

American in Japan says

Cyclists ride like crazy on the (often crowded) sidewalks, often while talking on cell phones or even texting.

Have to admit that I have never seen anyone try talking on a phone or texting while riding a bike.

14   Vicente   2012 May 15, 4:05am  

How's that Fukushima thing going these days? Watched a Frontline episode on it last week.

15   American in Japan   2012 May 15, 3:58pm  

Vicente,

Yeah, not a good situation even now. I have been talking to a friend that teaches at a university and is an expert on nuclear power.

I am trying to follow up on reports of health of children (and adults) living in Fukushima, Ibaraki and Tochigi Prefectures. Also I am looking for information on "hotspots" in Tokyo.

Thanks for your entertaining (yet often informative comments)!

16   American in Japan   2012 May 18, 6:51pm  

I am concerned about the #4 Reactor spent nuclear fuel sitting at the top of that damaged building.

17   zzyzzx   2012 May 22, 12:40am  

Vicente says

How's that Fukushima thing going these days? Watched a Frontline episode on it last week.

“Eagles are dandified vultures” - Teddy Roosevelt

I think the worst part is that they have shut off all their other power plants. I imagine that they will have rolling blackouts all summer long.

18   American in Japan   2012 May 22, 12:50am  

Kansai (Osaka, Hyogo & Kyoto) will be harder hit. There should be few if any blackouts in Tokyo.

19   clambo   2012 May 22, 1:55am  

Japan has no energy so they can't turn off their nukes for very long.
Anyone remember why WWII turned into a shooting war with Japan? The USA cut off their access to oil was one aspect of it.
Japan is interesting, they have a pretty good standard of living and etc. yet the country has no energy, no arable land, and no resources.
For starting out with almost nothing they're doing pretty well.
Chicks are cute but you already knew that.

20   Vicente   2012 May 22, 4:28am  

clambo says

no arable land,

Oh come now, they are on the low side at 11-16% but it's not zero. Plus there's fishing.

21   zzyzzx   2012 May 23, 12:17am  

Vicente says

clambo says

no arable land,

Oh come now, they are on the low side at 11-16% but it's not zero. Plus there's fishing.

Yeah, but overfishing has already ruined that worldwide.

22   clambo   2012 May 23, 2:33am  

For the number of people Japan's arable land is insufficient.
The lack of protein this caused in their diet is easy to see in the older generation over there.
Older people are about 4'5" or so.
My Japanese friend is about 5'6" but she is afraid to wear heels "I will be very tall".
The younger people are larger since they had more calories and protein when growing up in the 60's than in the 30's.
They however are productive with fish and shellfish farming and the indented coast is perfect for this activity.
If you think Whole Foods is expensive you have never been in a Tokyo grocery store ;)

23   American in Japan   2012 Jun 11, 12:05am  

>If you think Whole Foods is expensive you have never been in a Tokyo grocery store...

True! At least they have Costco here now.

24   tdeloco   2012 Jun 11, 2:21am  

The number 1 reason why the Japanese population is in decline:

25   American in Japan   2012 Jun 12, 12:59am  

One reason, but there are bigger reasons... Japan puts its effort and financesin keeping a good standard of living for those over 60, but things are hard for those in their 30s and 40s because of the high not discretionary expenses.

26   American in Japan   2012 Jul 3, 10:22pm  

To be continued...

27   gruntfuttock   2012 Jul 4, 12:41am  

clambo says

I of course would NOT try to live there because you are not Japanese pal. You will never be Japanese and you will be constantly reminded of it.

25-year resident of Tokyo here, I arrived from Sydney in 1988, and apart from 6 months living in Kansas have been here ever since. I have experienced very little racism here, almost none. I am CEO of my own company and have participated in Japanese life to the highest levels, and there are many others like me. Day to day, people are almost unfailingly polite, courteous, diligent and respectful. For those of you reading this list who are curious, I hope you have a chance to visit.

28   BayArea   2012 Jul 4, 1:10am  

I just returned from a week long business trip in Tokyo last week.

The rail system is incredible and the people are hard-working, respectful, curteous.

It was interesting to see how late the railways are packed with people. It's very common to see the traffic not ease up well into the night, 9PM, 10PM, 11PM...

There is certainly no shortage of professional, family, and social pressures and I guess it's not a major surprise that the suicide rate is high here.

If you look at the suicide list by country on wiki, it's equally interesting to see countries like Haiti, Jamaica mon (I do to lol), he Bahamas with nearly 0.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate

29   American in Japan   2012 Jul 4, 10:08pm  

@BayArea

Was this your first trip to Japan?

30   BayArea   2012 Jul 5, 12:35am  

Second...

2009 (just before the disaster)
2012

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