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SBH,
So you think 70% - 100% of college graduates majoring in theology is the mark of a great education system and a wonderfully productive society?
Families and individuals invest resources and time in education in order to give the kids a leg up on other kids. A society can be set up in such a way that kids have the leg up by having a set of skills that other people will want to hire, or it can be set up such that the leg-up is fulfilling a paper requirement that the government will subsidize. Parents and individuals would respond accordingly to either set of incentives. For thousands of years in human history, "education" was about pursuing a theology degree so that the kid can have a privileged job in the government or the government-endorsed church.
SBH,
So you think 70% - 100% of college graduates majoring in theology is the mark of a great education system and a wonderfully productive society?
Families and individuals invest resources and time in education in order to give the kids a leg up on other kids. A society can be set up in such a way that kids have the leg up by having a set of skills that other people will want to hire, or it can be set up such that the leg-up is fulfilling a paper requirement that the government will subsidize. Parents and individuals would respond accordingly to either set of incentives. For thousands of years in human history, "education" was about pursuing a theology degree so that the kid can have a privileged job in the government or the government-endorsed church.
I do remember reading 80% of Saudi college students major in religious studies, the least marketable of all majors. Today the Saudis can't even dig a fucking hole to get their oil, without the help of foreigners.
It's a case study in what you should not do.
The message couldn't be clearer: education makes you "hell-bent on controlling the rest of society". Education is the enemy of freedom. All institutions of learning are fascist organizations. The anarchist's proudest fire uses books as tinder.
SBH, why do you think that? If no one went to universities how would we have any progress at all? The computer you are looking at right now could not have been made without universities. The same goes for virtually everything you use. We would be living in the 15th century with no cure for the plague.
I do remember reading 80% of Saudi college students major in religious studies, the least marketable of all majors. Today the Saudis can't even dig a fucking hole to get their oil, without the help of foreigners.
Why don't they just pray to their god to create holes for them? Surely that would work. He's omnipotent.
Come to think of it, isn't prayer the Republican healthcare plan for the masses?
I do remember reading 80% of Saudi college students major in religious studies, the least marketable of all majors. Today the Saudis can't even dig a fucking hole to get their oil, without the help of foreigners.
Why don't they just pray to their god to create holes for them? Surely that would work. He's omnipotent.
Come to think of it, isn't prayer the Republican healthcare plan for the masses?
I'm sure the Saudis tried that. They are still waiting.
http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/17787-ffrf-banner-in-wilkes-barre-nothing-fails-like-prayer
https://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=89205&showcomments=T
It’s a Loss in Md: 73K Lose Insurance; 60K Enroll on Exchange
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/it-s-loss-md-73k-lose-insurance-60k-enroll-exchange#sthash.50kiDuOH.djrIOg6b.dpuf
(CNSNews.com) – The head of the Maryland Health Insurance Exchange testified Thursday before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that only 60,000 people have signed up for Obamacare through the state’s exchange - 13,000 less than the number of individuals reported to lose their insurance due to Obamacare.
“According to our reports, according to AP, press accounts, 73,000 individuals in Maryland were going to lose their insurance because of the Affordable Care Act, and what you’re telling me is your revised goal is approximately the same number – 75,000. So your revised goal of people you’re gonna sign up is: We’re gonna sign up the people who were kicked off of the Affordable Care Act,†Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) said.
On Nov. 4, 2013, the Baltimore Sun reported: “About 73,000 policy holders around the state will lose their insurance in coming months because nine insurance companies are dropping some health plans that were not grandfathered under the Affordable Care Act, the Maryland Insurance Administration confirmed Monday.â€
In prepared written testimony, Joshua Sharfstein, chair of the Maryland Health Benefit Exchange, said, “We expect that by the time the dust settles, more than 290,000 Marylanders will have enrolled in coverage since January 1, including more than 60,000 Marylanders in qualified health plans and more than 230,000 Marylanders in Medicaid.â€
Jordan grilled Sharfstein on the statement he made earlier to the committee that Maryland was “meeting our goals.â€
“I think a lot of people would disagree with that,†Jordan said. He pointed out that the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS) gave the state the goal of 150,000 enrollees in the individual exchange by April 1, “and as of April 1, as of a couple days ago, you’ve enrolled 60,000 people.â€
According to Sharfstein, the Hilltop Institute at the University of Maryland Baltimore County - not CMS – revised Maryland’s goal for enrollment in the individual market down from 150,000 to 75,000.
Sharfstein took issue with Jordan’s comparison of those who would lose insurance due to Obamacare to the number of Obamacare enrollees.
“You’re comparing apples and oranges with all due respect,†Sharfstein said.
“I’m comparing people who got kicked off because of this law, and I’m comparing the number you said you’re going to sign up through your exchange, which is far below roughly half of what the initial number that CMS gave you,†Jordan said.
“I think an apples to apples comparison would be the size of the individual market before and after, so whether people have coverage in the individual market before January 1st versus after, because some people don’t need subsidies. They’ll go right to a carrier,†Sharfstein said.
“We’re seeing not only just the exchange enrollment, the outside the exchange enrollment, which is probably going to be at least that, plus the fact that people could renew early. We’re gonna see a much bigger individual market. That’s the apples to apples comparison,†he added.
“I think you’re leaving out the fact that your calculation, what you just went through, those that are kicked off. There are certainly people who are now in the individual market. They just get kicked off their plan,†Jordan reiterated.
In any case, I was addressing why beer has historically been more popular than wine in America. Had France controlled the original 13 colonies, I strongly suspect that wine would have been consumed far more than beer after the revolution
Doubtful. Beer is popular in area's where hops grows well, wine is popular in area's where wine grapes grow well. Most of the original 13 colonies were much more conducive to growing hops than wine grapes. The dutch west india company brought brewing to new amsterdam (now called new york city) sometime around 1600 I believe and spread it from there. Almost all beers were british type ales until heavy gernan immigration then lagars, which are easier to brew and store much better than ales, became popular.
Beer consumption was high in Quebec in colonial times.
Ponzi scheme or bubble, this is a sellers market, and not a time to buy.
This is not a time for buyers unless you have money to burn or you are extremely gullible. It really is that simple. Buy low sell high. There is a time for everything under the sun.
If someone is convincing you to buy in this market I will bet it's a real estate agent and not someone who really cares about your future.
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
It's not a human right to own a Malibu mansion overlooking the Pacific.
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
It's not a human right to own a Malibu mansion overlooking the Pacific.
Straight up. Buy a little house or wait until prices fit your budget!
(the 1/3 is national, local as much as 1/2+ unaffordable)
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
It's not a human right to own a Malibu mansion overlooking the Pacific.
Straight up. Buy a little house or wait until prices fit your budget!
(the 1/3 is national, local as much as 1/2+ unaffordable)
Exactly. That is what I did, and I was happy as a puppy.
I don't even care for Malibu mansions.
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
It's not a human right to own a Malibu mansion overlooking the Pacific.
Straight up. Buy a little house or wait until prices fit your budget!
(the 1/3 is national, local as much as 1/2+ unaffordable)
Exactly. That is what I did, and I was happy as a puppy.
I don't even care for Malibu mansions.
My wife would only make me vacuum the whole place.
I don't even care for Malibu mansions.
My wife would only make me vacuum the whole place.
Hahaha...that's my wife's complaint too. That and 'who will clean all the bathrooms'???
Well, if you live in Silicon Valley even a molding shack is overpriced. Believe me, it's not a Malibu home here that goes for half a million, it's molding shack near the fault line or in a bad neighborhood.
Well, if you live in Silicon Valley even a molding shack is overpriced. Believe me, it's not a Malibu home here that goes for half a million, it's molding shack near the fault line or in a bad neighborhood.
Um, ever been to Malibu? It's cash, celebrities, etc. Not unlike the fortress up north. Nothing goes for 1/2M in malibu!
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
So essentially you are saying it is ok that 1/3 of the population should not have a roof.
Historically, human beings always were able to build some kind of shelter or tent where to live. Yes that was a human right.
Now this whole housing process has become soo overdone that even relatively well-off families are forced to live at 4 in 1 db room. The average family spends thirty years to pay for a shack that any single human could put together in maybe a year worth of actual work.
And you don't see a problem.
Well, if you live in Silicon Valley even a molding shack is overpriced. Believe me, it's not a Malibu home here that goes for half a million, it's molding shack near the fault line or in a bad neighborhood.
In Silicon Valley a mud hut next to a toxic dump could go for half a million.
That's why I don't live there.
Can a mud hut withstand a 7.5 quake?
Now this whole housing process has become soo overdone that even relatively well-off families are forced to live at 4 in 1 db room.
Rent until the prices come down. It's deja vu circa 2006. This isn't sustainable just like that wasn't. The worst thing one can do is take out a 2.5% ARM right now because they have a right to a roof.
Why is everyone complaining when two thirds of the homes are affordable?
Is there something wrong with buying something you can afford?
So essentially you are saying it is ok that 1/3 of the population should not have a roof.
Historically, human beings always were able to build some kind of shelter or tent where to live. Yes that was a human right.
Now this whole housing process has become soo overdone that even relatively well-off families are forced to live at 4 in 1 db room. The average family spends thirty years to pay for a shack that any single human could put together in maybe a year worth of actual work.
And you don't see a problem.
Look at the heading of the thread.
It implies two thirds of the homes for sale are affordable. There is nothing to complain about.
Most of the original 13 colonies were much more conducive to growing hops than wine grapes.
Essentially the same as my point, except that instead of beer culture being brought over from Britain, it arose in the 13 colonies for the same reason it arose in Britain. Nonetheless, there are plenty of areas in America today where you can grow grapes, so either way the popularity of beer comes down to what was grown in the local culture.
This is more of a false flag than a bubble. Or maybe a Ponzi scheme.
Old news, this is very obvious here in Southern California. However, homeowners will be in denial like they always are and chant that this runup is the "recovery" when it clearly is a speculative bubble.
This is the return to "normal" following a bull trap whose time was extended by fed policy.
Most markets are cyclical. This is certainly not a a buyers market.
Rent until the prices come down.
It seems that is what young tech folks are doing, causing a rental bidding exercise, and even higher house price (RE is a better investment since rental yield is much higher than the low Treasury yield) near tech neighborhood. When would this feedback loop break?
This is the return to "normal" following a bull trap whose time was extended by fed policy.
I take it you mean we should wait for the imminent dip and then "buy the dip".
Yes, buying in the pit of despair is always best, as macabre as that sounds. Buying at the bottom is not always possible, but buying at the peak is insane, and in this particular market it's like paying a tribute to graft.
The value of education, especially liberal arts, is that it TEACHES YOU HOW TO THINK.
Yes! And we need people who THINK more than ever. Well done sbh!
Yep, I'm waiting for NINJA loans to show up soon by desperate lenders...
Let them make the money so cheap, but they should realize that without matching wage growth, one can only go so far to create a prosperity from phantom money.
So you think 70% - 100% of college graduates majoring in theology is the mark of a great education system and a wonderfully productive society?
It is not the mark of ANYTHING, you imbecile. You try to force your paranoia into everything and it ends up making you out to be the lunatic you clearly are.
Saudi universities churning out graduates with 70+% major in theology is not my paranoia. Practically all universities in the world before the industrial revolution churned out graduates mostly majoring in theology was not my paranoia or figment of imagination. They were and are facts. Your resorting to personal attacks is not helping your argument, but only adding lacking decorum to your lack of knowledge.
The value of education, especially liberal arts, is that it TEACHES YOU HOW TO THINK.
I disagree, except in specialty classes... The majority of liberal arts related curriculum is a waste of time and money...
Actually, critical thinking skills starts in your early school years and starts at home... If you're relying on being taught "How To Think" in college, your train left the station a long time before that...
Depends on how and where you get your education. A true education is never a waste.
Families and individuals invest resources and time in education in order to give the kids a leg up on other kids
Of course you think this: you are market obsessed; you cannot envision any human undertaking that is not reducible to a transactive battle. For you all human endeavor is commercial. That is why I deem you an artificial person, a sociopath. You are devoid of the connection to the world that virtually all the rest of us share. You're homeless.
At $200k for a bachelor's degree, not many families can afford that kind of money for kid's cultural enrichment.
Economics assumes rational human behavior. Granted, sometimes some people do not behave rationally . . . however, it's silly to structure a society or build incentive systems based on irrationality.
Once again your penchant for personal attacks is not helping your argument. You actually have no basis to make an assessment on whether I always act based on rational calculations (sometimes I actually do not) . . . however, in order to have a statistical relevant prediction on how people will behave when given a specific set of incentives, rational self-interest has to be the basic assumption on how most people will behave.
I don't see how that contradicts my statements. In fact, apples grow quite well in Britain, which supports the position that the culture of Britain largely influence early American culture.
Well my point was simply that beer was not so popular in America until German immigrants, not British expanded the industry in the mid 19th century. It was bottom fermenting German yeasts which allowed beer in those days to NOT taste like crap. It took another set of German immigrants to find other ways to make cheap beer taste like crap.
Samuel Adams
I'll take the History channel over Wikipedia any day despite some subject matter that should never be on the History Channel (ghosts, Big Foot, etc.).
One of the many reasons I cut the cable cord was the demise of the History channel. While I like some of their programming I couldn't take the alien autopsy/Bigfoot crap anymore. Wiki may have its crowd sourcing problems but the references are there for anyone to check. One can't say the same thing about THC. Or for that matter The Learning Channel. I'm just glad I got out before Honey Boo Boo came along. Wikipedia may have its problems but at least it can be updated when errors are discovered. The history channel keeps broadcasting the same alien autopsy/Bigfoot crap regardless.
That article just brings up examples of all those unionized government workers with absolute job security. That's always been that way. Government unions always had a significant amount of slackers, while the rest have to work extra hard to make up for it.
I remember last year there was an article about postal worker who just stopped delivering mail and stayed at home instead, dumping mail into his backyard. I bet if he was not in a government union, he'd take a different approach to life.
so that the kid can have a privileged job in the government
You're hopelessly addicted to this bogeyman. The value of education, especially liberal arts, is that it TEACHES YOU HOW TO THINK.
You are the one battling with your own bogeyman. Here's the original statement from my post that you truncated to produce your bogeyman:
"For thousands of years in human history, 'education' was about pursuing a theology degree so that the kid can have a privileged job in the government or the government-endorsed church."
Do you actually believe drilling kids to memorize and recite religious scriptures, as it was done for thousands of years, TEACHES YOU HOW TO THINK? Did you mean brainwashing?
You are desperate, slobbering fucking desperate, to bind it to violence and coercion and force and ugliness simply in order to denigrate any structure of society one moment above solipsism. Your lunatic contortions have you bastardizing history and logic and the elements of humanity. Be off, you disease! Go vent your plague elsewhere.
Redirect your outrage at yourself please.
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
Say hey! This was in the Wall Street Journal on March 30, 1999. Note "... how much it will buy."
Holy cow/interesting/compelling ...!
And where is it up to date??? Right here ... see the first chart shown in this thread.
Recent Dow day is Friday, April 4, 2014 __ Level is 104.4
WOW! It is hideous that this is hidden! Is there any such "Homes, Inflation Adjusted"? Yes! This was in the New York Times on August 27, 2006:
And up to date (by me) is here:
http://patrick.net/?p=1219038&c=999083#comment-999083
WOW! The UNtrustworthy are certainly in control of what information is apparent to the people!
And "ThePublic Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/?p=1230886
Depends on how and where you get your education. A true education is never a waste.
I was specifically talking about tithed money to run schools that drilled youngster to recite religious scriptures and debate how many angels could dance at the tip of a pin, as advanced "education" (beyond basic reading and writing) was done for thousands of years before industrial revolution made science and technology a viable educational tract. Heck, for the bulk of human history, scripture recitation was a more emphasized aspect of "education" than even reading and writing, as most religions were oral traditions for a very long time before they were put down in writing.
To the modern eye, that's hardly "education" but that's how "education" was for much longer time than the time span since science and technology degrees are handed out at universities in the past 150years or so.
There was nothing magical about science and technology degrees starting to out-number Theology degrees from universities in the West only about a century and half ago: the arrival of industrial revolution in the vibrant market economy made the science and technology degrees pay more!
If we revert the pay-off matrix to the old days through government intervention, the younger generation and their parents may well send their precious minds to dead-end pursuits again. This is not even hypothetical . . . as it plays out in Saudi Arabia right now for the past several decades since their government got so much money from oil revenue as to provide cushy jobs to every college graduates regardless major (essentially minor government bureaucrat jobs guaranteed for college graduates). 70+% of their graduates are coming out with Theology degrees!
You know how to get culturally enriched? Get a library card and freaking READ!
Cost: $0.00
Print out a list of "important" books to read and borrow them a few at a time.
Read.
It's that simple.
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