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mell says

You don't need any more intrusive spying, you need the willingness and aptitude to focus on the problem and just do cultural/racial profiling and prevent events by blocking and deporting people that are clearly incompatible with western values (freedom of speech, democracy, rule of law etc.). There's too much data mined in fact which will make important info impossible to find. Focus on the usual suspects.

Exactly.

Gathering info is one thing, sorting it out something else. Also, with the Tsarnaev Brothers, assuming that just because they're Chechen, means they'll only go after Russian Kaffirs and not American Kaffirs. Big Mistake.

Yep.Strategist says

Yup. They were too busy watching porn.

And listening to US soldiers and journalists having phone sex with their wives.

mell says

ou don't need any more intrusive spying,

Profiling! Violation of constitutional rights!

Strategist says

Yup. They were too busy watching porn.

Nah... they were just watching you and your wife in your bedroom.

Strategist says

Yup. They were too busy watching porn.

Seriously. Homeland security busted that gay escort site in new York. If all those nuts were actually looking for terrorists instead of Rin's buddies-at least we would be safe. Patriot act was used to bust Elliott Spitzer-how does that keep us safe. I wonder if they go after these people, so they can rack up huge fines, seize their assets and give themselves big bonuses/budgets?

Catching jihadis is actual work and not much payback-except keeping the public safe?

the guy was born in Illinois. So, you are basically saying, don't let people from Illinois move to California?

or don't let anyone marry a foreign wife?

just trying to figure out your point!!

ironman, You have me confused with someone else.

but I see you are still too dumb a cunt to answer a question, and instead rely on a misguided personal attack. sad to be yoU!

blastfrompast says

the guy was born in Illinois. So, you are basically saying, don't let people from Illinois move to California?

or don't let anyone marry a foreign wife?

just trying to figure out your point!!

If they profiled this scumbag and his whore, they might have caught him.
He seems to be a regular at the mosque.
Travelled to terrorist countries.
Purchased a whore that should have been carefully screened by immigration and HS.
Made lots of phone calls to terrorist countries.
And that was before he accumulated tons of bombs and ammunition. They had contact with foreign terrorists.

lostand confused says

instead of Rin's buddies-at least we would be safe

WTF! I promote heterosexual esc*rting services. Yes, straight men and women, banging away! Don't get me confused with the Hershey Highway crowd!

Heraclitusstudent says

All these billions spend, all this mega spying infrastructure setup, all these privacy violated and they can't find that?

Yeah exactly! But do not ever question "bang for the buck" when it comes to defense & intelligence spending!!!

Strategist says

should have been carefully screened by immigration and HS

She was screened. That is the big problem. I am watching Samantha Power on the telly telling us why we shouldn't fear Syrian refugees as they are carefully screened. But so was the shooter.

People in power, whether in business or government, are where they are because they can stand behind a story, the story that their boss and his/her boss says is The Story in order to advance the interests of the business or government. When things change suddenly to make the story absurd, and the business or government hasn't yet adjusted, you see precisely how things work in this window of a credibility gap. So Power is proposing the safety of screening refugees when the news is reporting the massacre of citizens by a screened Middle Easterner.

WTF is going on? Blurtman, how the fuck is the Apartment of Terrorists who are currently, right now, dominating the news cycle not only Domestically, but Internationally, totally unsecured except for a piece of plywood?

Is the Bazillion Dollar Anti-Terror budget not sufficient to have a single local cop, much less a group of them in unmarked vehicles, or a swarm of FBI Agents, standing outside the most important Crime Scene in the Country 48 hours after a mass killing?

The interior looks like nothing was carted away - there were driver's licenses and Soc Sec cards of the perps and relatives still inside THE APARTMENT!?

Nobody from the FBI, Local Police, State Police, and/or whomever else was involved took at least those items away for fingerprinting, safe keeping, DNA Analysis, etc. etc.?

Blurtman says

Strategist says

should have been carefully screened by immigration and HS

She was screened. That is the big problem. I am watching Samantha Power on the telly telling us why we shouldn't fear Syrian refugees as they are carefully screened. But so was the shooter.

LOL. The FBI already testified they cannot screen the refugees.
As for that Pakistani terrorist whore Malik, what screening did she go through? Probably a $7.00 per hour clerk who was required to make sure the form was signed and dated.

Strategist says

Probably a $7.00 per hour clerk who was required to make sure the form was signed and dated.

$7/hr to the clerk, $50/hr to the Contracting Company run by former staffers and lobbyists.

thunderlips11 says

Strategist says

Probably a $7.00 per hour clerk who was required to make sure the form was signed and dated.

$7/hr to the clerk, $50/hr to the Contracting Company run by former staffers and lobbyists.

That's their minimum wage.

Strategist says

Probably a $7.00 per hour clerk who was required to make sure the form was signed and dated.

"I, crazy bitch from Saudi Arabia, solemnly swear that I will follow the laws of the United States of America."

Hard to believe that didn't work. And it seemed like such a fool-proof plan.

turtledove says

"I, crazy bitch from Saudi Arabia, solemnly swear that I will follow the laws of the United States of America."

that allows me to kill infidels, because Islam says I must.

There, I finished what you wanted to say.

"Islamic State has at least one specialized printing machine used to print authentic Syrian passports and plenty of blanks, US law enforcement agencies warned. Fraudulent passports would help terrorist infiltrators pose as refugees from Syria.

“Since more than 17 months [have] passed since Raqqa and Deir ez-Zour fell to ISIS, it is possible that individuals from Syria with passports ‘issued’ in these ISIS controlled cities or who had passport blanks, may have traveled to the US,” the report warned."

Strategist says

My thanks to the likes of Dan and other naive liberals who claimed data mining was an invasion of privacy and would not stop terrorism.

errc says

What.. what... The NSA is collecting *all* contacts, emails, posts worldwide, but an immigrant from Pakistan posted a fucking pledge of allegiance to ISIS ON FACEBOOK and the NSA wasn't all over her ass?

All these billions spend, all this mega spying infrastructure setup, all these privacy violated and they can't find that?

You're welcome.

Empirical evidence has verified every time that violating the Constitution and setting up a police state does not in any way protect us from terrorism. In contrast doing a legal Google search would have saved us many times.

thunderlips11 says

And listening to US soldiers and journalists having phone sex with their wives.

And this is exactly why human beings cannot be trusted with unrestrained power coupled with a complete lack of accountability.

thunderlips11 says

That's a strange place for an Adam's apple.

lostand confused says

Seriously. Homeland security busted that gay escort site in new York. If all those nuts were actually looking for terrorists instead of Rin's buddies-at least we would be safe. Patriot act was used to bust Elliott Spitzer-how does that keep us safe.

The entire point of the Patriot Act was not to catch terrorist, but rather to enforce laws with Unconstitutional means, particularly controversial sex and drug laws that should not exist in the first place. Bypassing the Constitution and selectively enforcing laws is the most effective way to punish people for their voting habits and political positions. That's why certain drugs, associated with certain groups, are illegal whereas far more dangerous ones are not. Pot, hippies and blacks use that, so lock them up. Oxycodone, that's used by Rush Limbaugh, drop the charges.

The War on Drugs is really The War on Voting. We should start calling it that.