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FortWayne says

Fake news, here is the real story on fox

Phew, thank goodness. Don't worry Brietbart will cook something up too. I understand they have connections. Maybe that's why the WH is channeling it through Fox ? Too obvious if it comes through Brietbart.

It sounds like the same story. One side is in hysterics, the other side saying dindu nuffin.

This is madness. Is sharing information about an ISIS terrorist plan confidential or not? Should be a simple yes/no answer.

We put up with Bushtard and Obummer for 16 years, we can deal with Trumps for 4-8 depending on what kind of crazy the dems push next.

Can we just elect rand paul next time please?

I think Trump has shown he doesnt want to drain the swamp how he promised. Unfortunately I still cant think of many politicians I'd rather have in that office. Neocons are evil. The moderate left are just neocons w better PR. Socialism is the wrong path.

Rand Paul is the only option remaining.

Love how the WH pulled the transcript of the meeting from internal wires immediately after the consults with NSA and CIA.

Every time I see junior engineers bragging or dishing secret product info in the office it all boils down to them wanting to seem important, be in the know, and be liked.

Remind you of anyone?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/05/trump-mcmaster-white-house-denies-washington-post-report-classified-russians

This goes straight to the point. "At no time were intelligence sources or methods discussed, and the president did not discuss any military operations that were not already publicly known." Mcmaster.

YET...

"The Post story did not ever say that "intelligence sources or methods" were discussed, but that Trump revealed tightly held secret information that was provided by a US partner, and that the revelation would likely allow Russian intelligence agents to determine intelligence sources and methods independently."

So, again, we have no credible source of information in the MSM... Do you see why Alex Jones gets so many listeners? Which spin do you believe?

CBOEtrader says

It sounds like the same story. One side is in hysterics, the other side saying dindu nuffin.

This is madness. Is sharing information about an ISIS terrorist plan confidential or not? Should be a simple yes/no answer.

It's confidential if you divulge confidential information. It's especially bad if you give it to opposing states who can unpack the information to likely "sources and means".

Trump should take over the press briefings to clear this up. ;)

The WH has zero credibility. They burnt it all away already.

Rew says

The WH has zero credibility. They burnt it all away already.

Neither does the MSM

I'm with Jazz. Loose lips sink ships. Guy cannot even get out of his own way to capitalize on his party stranglehold. Poor GOP. They must be so sad right now. Bet you McCain is ready to call him a traitor.

Rew says

Loose lips sink ships.

Ah, you've convicted him based on reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting. Good idea.

Wall not Fence!
Fuck Trump. Go Pence.

(giggle)

rando says

reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting.

It's too negative, therefore it can't be objective. Great logic there !

With objective reporting, nothing is ever negative. For example if you're going to report a scientist predicting doom from global warming, it's not objective unless you can find another scientist that says it's nothing to worry about, and to the extent it is true, it has nothing to do with Co2 we pump in to the atmosphere.

Reality must always be reported in a balanced way such as this. Fox news, fair and balanced (â„¢) .

rando says

Ah, you've convicted him based on reports from the same press that never gives him a moment of objective reporting. Good idea

Muslim ban : No go. Trump's big mouth
Comey : Disaster! Trump's big mouth.

The precedent for Trump being a bloviating braggart is beyond well established. The precedent for him being a liar, and his surrogates lying willfully or out of ignorance is beyond concrete.

So it is believe the WH or the mainstream press ... who make their living off of telling the truth (as well as OP pieces.)

Your darn right I believe WaPo.

The elephant in the room is that Trump, as president, has the final say as to what is classified and what is not. Other than nuclear secrets the president at any time can announce classified information as declassifued.
The while fucking thing is yet another successful troll of the press by trump.

I see that liberal but hurt is strong here. Grow up and get over it.

You used to be funny.

7 years 7 months of future libbie torture to look forward to. All the accusations. All the hysteria. Firing blanks is becoming a favorite libbie pastime...

BlueSardine says

Heres a secret. Any non nuclear information trump reveals is by definition not classified.

Trump has the last word on what is classified and what is not.

Its impossible for trump to reveal non nuclear classified information.

This whole thread is based fake news...

The problem is that Trump is making an enormous judgement call... in an area where he doesnt have the best knowledge. Trump is one of those people who thinks he knows a lot more than he knows.

That makes him easy potentially easy to manipulate. So... its a problem.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

On the one hand, the Precedent handed secrets to global power adversaries it will use to thwart US interests abroad.

More like Trump just did what he accused Comey of doing. Trump decided he would declassify ISIS info to help his new friends dodge a terrorist attack. His ego took over. In that moment he probably thought he was the most noble knight in all the land...

Ego is dangerous.

Irrelevant. Trump is the president. By definition it is impossible for him to divulge classified secrets that have nothing to do with our nuclear deterrent.
CBOEtrader says

The problem is that Trump is making an enormous judgement call... in an area where he doesnt have the best knowledge.

BlueSardine says

Irrelevant.

Im not making a legal case, but rather a utilitarian one. Its not a good thing to have a needy ego feeding itself via diplomacy.

APOCALYPSEFUCK_is_ADORABLE says

CBOEtrader says

Trump decided he would declassify ISIS info to help his new friends dodge a terrorist attack.

To impress his twink crush Putin who he wants to fuck him in the ass.

wait a second... are you sure trump would be the bitch, and putin the butch?

Eject. I think he wants out as soon as possible anyway. If it can happen in a way where he can claim he was screwed over by the elite, all the better. Then he and Bannon go take over the right wing media world. It's much more fitting of Trumps personality. This being President is way too stressful. Too high stakes. Although I'm sure it has been fun getting this much attention.

My only regret is Gav Christie wasn't named the House Press Secretary.

Booger says

I see that liberal but hurt is strong here. Grow up and get over it.

AF does his reporting and writes his titles just like the mainstream press does. It's remarkably similar in fact.

CBOEtrader says

Rand Paul is the only option remaining.

I'd have to read a bit more, but maybe could support Rand Paul.

Having a pack of sold out politicians and shills running the country wasn't going to end well either.Trump was fairly elected. Removing him will undermine the democratic process of our country. Beating the fucking dead Russian influence story to death is comical and will bring down the Democrat party.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Not against the USSR, which many Democrats frequently apologized for, but the Republic of Russia.

Same shit in slightly different clothes. Not fooling anyone anymore.

Very descriptive title. lmao

LIES! LIES! LIES
Trump didn't give the Russians Intel.
He gave them the briefcase with the launch codes.

I think Patrick is trolling some of you. rofl

Rand Paul!
I will pray for CBOEtrader & Patrick.

Kim Jong Un has already removed all the statues and memories of the history of freedom from North Korea. Democrats are just following the footsteps of their idol.

I sure all our other friends will be sharing their Intel with the U.S. in the future.
If they can't trust the U.S.,who can they trust.

CBOEtrader says

Its not a good thing to have a needy ego feeding itself via diplomacy.

Good description of Trump.

FortWayne says

Kim Jong Un has already removed all the statues and memories of the history of freedom from North Korea. Democrats are just following the footsteps of their idol.

When did Confederate statues become symbols of freedom?

These statues should be collected up, and put as artifacts in an appropriate space near the Whitney Plantation.

BlueSardine says

7 years 7 months of future libbie torture to look forward to.

It's looking like 50/50 odds he doesn't survive the year, to me. He may resign himself. We probably don't need an impeachment.

Every time I think the conservative right is the most batshit crazy group of loons in the world, the conservative left redoubles their efforts.

www.youtube.com/embed/cMUC9u0nAaQ

Has college really gotten this bad, or is this simply a very vocal minority of lunatics?

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

This is relevant to the thread how? Try to keep up with the discussion.

probably true, but i gotta bang the pinata while the lights are still on...

Rew says

BlueSardine says

7 years 7 months of future libbie torture to look forward to.

It's looking like 50/50 odds he doesn't survive the year, to me. He may resign himself. We probably don't need an impeachment.

CBOEtrader says

Can we just elect rand paul next time please?

I think Trump has shown he doesnt want to drain the swamp how he promised. Unfortunately I still cant think of many politicians I'd rather have in that office. Neocons are evil. The moderate left are just neocons w better PR. Socialism is the wrong path.

Rand Paul is the only option remaining.

Every objective Independent knows this. The only way to true freedom is to vote for another Republican. Christian Sharia is The American Way! Lulululululululu!!