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Google is a near-monopoly, and the others are not too far behind.
When in actual fact they become monopolies and are telling you what you may not read, will you be concerned? Or not, because after all, they can choose to lose you as a customer ... to nobody?
Anyway - to carry your answer to the logical extreme of my sterilization hypothetical, is it fair to state your position as:
When an entity is at or near monopoly power it MUST accommodate all ideas, even if those ideas/info are potentially destructive to civilization itself. Is this correct?
Ok - so per the all ideas deserve equal time rule - the Paul Erlich contemporaries who openly advocate for someone to spike our water supply with "temporary sterilants" to deprive anyone from having children deserve as much a voice as anyone else. Correct?
anonymous saysOk - so per the all ideas deserve equal time rule - the Paul Erlich contemporaries who openly advocate for someone to spike our water supply with "temporary sterilants" to deprive anyone from having children deserve as much a voice as anyone else. Correct?
All nonviolent ideas deserve at least a hearing, so sure, even Paul Erlich should be heard.
Anyway, my principle is that nonviolent ideas do not deserve censorship.
What do you mean? Trump has not tried to censor anything.
NFL players?
Trump is strongly advocating for a monopoly to siilence non-violent free speech.
Enough with this bs comparison. You can't go work for Monsanto and run a blog against Round-Up
Do you really think people have total "free speech" when on the company timeclock. Can you go around at work spewing any type of political or personal beliefs, even if they go against the company wishes, and not get some sort of backlash?
Comparing this to website providers (who are not employers of their clients) censoring paying clients to prevent the dissemination of their opinion/information is asinine. Of course you could make the argument that those big providers have the right to refuse service to anyone, BUT then you have to be consequent and that reasoning then would also mean people running restaurants (or any other business) should be able to choose their clients by race, opinions, gender, sex.
joeyjojojunior says
NFL players?
Trump is strongly advocating for a monopoly to siilence non-violent free speech.
Enough with this bs comparison. You can't go work for Monsanto and run a blog against Round-Up. They have all the free speech they want on the internet as all providers would host their protest opinion. This is about freedom of information, not about freedom to shit on your employer. Comparing this to website providers (who are not employers of their clients) censoring paying clients to prevent the dissemination of their opinion/information is asinine. Of course you could make the argument that those big providers have the right to refuse service to anyone, BUT then you have to be consequent and that reasoning then would also mean people running restaurants (or any other business) should be able to choose their clients by race, opinions, gender, sex. In any case I thin...
This is America, not North Korea. The NFL is a private business, not a public one. The players are employees. They are not disrespecting the flag, the Anthem, nor the country. They are quietly and respectfully taking a knee during the Anthem, in protest of cops murdering [black] citizens unnecessarily, and not being held accountable for it. I get that they’re black really rubs you guys the wrong way, but your gripe is with the NFL owners and the league.
Write Jerry Jones and tell him how bothered you are by these jigs “speaking out” against excessive and racially motivated police (government) violence against our fellow citizens, and you hate that he joined arms and kneeled with them before the Anthem.
errc saysThis is America, not North Korea. The NFL is a private business, not a public one. The players are employees. They are not disrespecting the flag, the Anthem, nor the country. They are quietly and respectfully taking a knee during the Anthem, in protest of cops murdering [black] citizens unnecessarily, and not being held accountable for it. I get that they’re black really rubs you guys the wrong way, but your gripe is with the NFL owners and the league.
Write Jerry Jones and tell him how bothered you are by these jigs “speaking out” against excessive and racially motivated police (government) violence against our fellow citizens, and you hate that he joined arms and kneeled with them before the Anthem.
I don't care whether the kneelers are black or white. Sure there are injustices that happen in law enforcement. But those are very few and I have seen no proof of any racial m...
It’s the fans right to do so?
What 3rd world hellhole are you from?
The Special Snowflake fans can whine and cry all they want, and if the NFL owners fear they will lose money, than they can abandon their beliefs and cower to the Snowflakes in the name of profits.
The entire discussion is so beyond dishonest, because people like you keep lying that there’s no such thing as racism. What fucking world do you live in? Your loudest mate here in this site, CiC, posted “Bye Bye Nigger boy!!!!!” Directed at Obama during Trumps inauguration and you dumbfucks gave him likes. Booger and xxyxxz are always posting racist crap against blacks. I don’t give a fuck, believe me, I’ve lived in places where whites are the minority and I’m kinda racist too, but why lie about it?
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.
But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.
But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
Ok - so what about NAMBLA and the Pedophile community? The "grooming" process is very nonviolent as 4-5 year old boys are selected for first exposure to an erect penis. Do you cover it in whipped cream for licking? Is there a name to call it or "special game" to play with the erection which works best for preschoolers?
So how about it Patrick? They are oppressed, and they are nonviolent? Therefore shouldn't you be combatting their censorship just like you are daily stormer?
Patrick saysWhat you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.
But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
So you're 100% behind Google for firing the engineer that wrote the internal memo then, right?
He was writing about his own working conditions, not some irrelevant agenda from outside. Nor was he showing any disrespect to the country or abusing his employer's resources
"Patrick either you think businesses can fire employees for conduct that they deem harms their image or they can't. You're trying to have it both ways
but you're ignoring the fact that his memo was about his own working conditions, not an attempt to abuse his position to publicly promote a certain unrelated agenda.
Is Kaepernick forced to sit in the back of the bus?
At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.
Patrick saysWhat you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.
But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
So you're 100% behind Google for firing the engineer that wrote the internal memo then, right?
Although those two situations are quite different as explained by Patrick I would be ok with it if the protection would apply to both. It would be huge if we would have a law to protect against political correctness and SJWs at the workplace (or ideally no HR/discrimination laws in the first place).
At work, yes, unless he has some compliant about his job.
What you do on your own time should not be used against you at work. But when you are at work, you should just work like you are being paid to.
But none of that has anything to do with the censorship of minority views which corporations are imposing lately.
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I've taken a copy of the censored dailystormer.com page "A Normie's Guide to the Alt-Right" from the Internet Archive and hosted it on my own site, here:
http://patrick.net/content/stormer.html
Style sheets don't quite work, but you can read the text. And that's the important thing. They tried to prevent you from having the ability to read it, but I'm saying that is wrong. You should have the ability to read it even if our corporate overlords say no. Especially if they say no. I encourage all other websites to also host parts or all of dailystormer.com as a protest.
I'm not a Nazi. Technically Jewish (long story). Just a believer that corporations should not be in actual fact dictating what we can and cannot read online.
#censorship