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Anything in recent history or are we pretending that the government only overstepped their boundaries once in the past 100 years?
I'm very much concerned with how the history of the southern freedom movement or civil rights movement is portrayed. And, I'm very conscious of the gaps in the history, and one important gap in the history, in the portrayal of the movement, is the role of guns in the movement. I worked in the South, I lived with families in the South. There was never a family I stayed with that didn't have a gun. I know from personal experience and the experiences of others, that guns kept people alive, kept communities safe and all you have to do to understand this is simply think of black people as human beings and they're gonna respond to terrorism the way anybody else would. ...The southern freedom movement has become so defined, the narrative of the movement has become so defined by non-violence that anything presented outside that narrative framework really isn't paid that much attention to. I like the quip that Julian Bond made...that really the way the public understands the civil rights movement can be boiled down to one sentence: Rosa sat down, Martin stood up, then the white folks saw the light and saved the day.
On Martin Luther King Jr.'s attitude about weapons...
If you look at the early period of his leadership in the civil rights movement, particularly the period of the Montgomery Bus Boycott, his household, as one person noted, was an arsenal, with guns all over the place. William Worthy, who was a journalist...tried to sit down in an armchair in Martin King's house and was warned by Bayard Rustin, who was with him, that he was about to sit down on a couple of guns. King was a man of the South, after all, and he responded to terrorism, he responded to violence the way most people in the South would be inclined to respond. So when the Klan...bombed his house in 1956, he went to the sheriff's office and applied for a gun permit to carry a concealed weapon. Now, he didn't get the permit...but Martin King always acknowledged — if you read his writings — the right to self-defense, armed self-defense.
Should we repeal the second amendment
@Patrick why am i continuing to have to mark Snipers personal attacks as personal? I thought that was the job of the mods?
Other developed countries don't have a 2nd Amendment, and they seem to be doing quite well.
Strategist saysOther developed countries don't have a 2nd Amendment, and they seem to be doing quite well.
Really, like Venezuela and North Korea? Isn't their government doing a swell job for the population that can't fight back?
Sniper saysStrategist saysOther developed countries don't have a 2nd Amendment, and they seem to be doing quite well.
Really, like Venezuela and North Korea? Isn't their government doing a swell job for the population that can't fight back?
They aren't developed countries.
They aren't developed countries.
Thank you for proving my point.
If they had a 2nd amendment, they wouldn't be pawns to their government, and would be a developed country.
Sniper says
They aren't developed countries.
Thank you for proving my point.
If they had a 2nd amendment, they wouldn't be pawns to their government, and would be a developed country.
These countries need guns to fight off their dictators, but the regular guns won't do. They need military grade weapons, training, and funds to to start up a real resistance
What the people (slaves) in those countries really need is a Trump in the White House.
Sniper says
They aren't developed countries.
Thank you for proving my point.
If they had a 2nd amendment, they wouldn't be pawns to their government, and would be a developed country.
These countries need guns to fight off their dictators, but the regular guns won't do. They need military grade weapons, training, and funds to to start up a real resistance. In the case of North Korea, even that would be an impossible task due to the control these commies have over the people.
What the people (slaves) in those countries really need is a Trump in the White House. Go Trump Go. Free those slaves.
These countries need guns to fight off their dictators, but the regular guns won't do. They need military grade weapons, training, and funds to to start up a real resistance
Interesting.
So, how have the goat herders in sandals with rusty AK47s been able to hold off the most powerful military in the world for like 15 years in Afghanistan?
Strategist saysWhat the people (slaves) in those countries really need is a Trump in the White House.
Who were the people who actually voted Trump into office? Oh, that's right, the 2nd amendment people who own guns.
Oops...
American revolution worked just fine without military anything. Defeated a professional army.
The 2nd Amendment exists exactly in order to protect that right to revolution against an oppressive elite, so no, the 2nd Amendment should not be repealed.
You tell me? Why is the State so tyrannically oppressive over plant based medicine?
Government does not go after you unless you are breaking the law and are a threat to others
In what ways is Cannabis similar to alcohol?
Should alcohol be prohibited?
What kind of power do you want your government to have?
I don't believe anyone is arguing for the government to ban all firearms. That's a scare tactic used by the NRA and gun nuts.
Strategist saysGovernment does not go after you unless you are breaking the law and are a threat to others
That is demonstrably false.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/botched-atlanta-drug-raid-killed-92-year-old-woman-family-awarded-49-million/
Kathyrn Johnston was 92-years-old when police carrying out a drug raid kicked in her door. She took a shot at the cops, and was gunned down by the return fire.
Now, the city of Atlanta has agreed to pay Johnston's family $4.9 million for her death in the botched 2006 raid.
Police had been acting on an informant's claim that he had bought narcotics at Johnston's home. But no drugs were found, and officers then planted drugs that had been recovered from a different raid.
1. Mistakes will happen.
2. She had a gun to defend herself. Did it work against law enforcement?
Police had been acting on an informant's claim that he had bought narcotics at Johnston's home.
Mistakes will happen.
adly, there is a huge number of MISTAKES, which often are deadly.
She had a gun to defend herself. Did it work against law enforcement?
patrick i marked another Sniper personal attack as personal, and it magically reappeared, again. What gives?
Satoshi_Nakamoto saysFortWayne saysAmerican revolution worked just fine without military anything. Defeated a professional army.
Yep, the best army in the world at the time.
You realize that it’s 2018?
I've spoken to my liberal friends at length about this issue.
The common belief that they seem to share is that the police will be there to protect them and the US government would never ever turn on them.
At the next sentence they will tell you that cops are racist and Trump is the next Hitler.
With respect to grandmother, I admire her and her actions. While her resistance did not work out properly, if everyone would shoot at intruding cops, they would rethink their ways of operation.
I've spoken to my liberal friends at length about this issue.
The common belief that they seem to share is that the police will be there to protect them and the US government would never ever turn on them.
At the next sentence they will tell you that cops are racist and Trump is the next Hitler.
We can only hope that the anti-American right wingers get their comeuppance for devolving this once great nation into a police state
drB6 saysWith respect to grandmother, I admire her and her actions. While her resistance did not work out properly, if everyone would shoot at intruding cops, they would rethink their ways of operation.
If any one shoots at cops, they will be shot to death. The cops will be doing the right thing.
They are dead wrong. Law enforcement will be there to protect you.
In 5 minutes a cop arrived
before proceeding with the report.
In another 5 minutes the second cop arrived
Strategist saysdrB6 saysWith respect to grandmother, I admire her and her actions. While her resistance did not work out properly, if everyone would shoot at intruding cops, they would rethink their ways of operation.
If any one shoots at cops, they will be shot to death. The cops will be doing the right thing.
In this case, cops arguably did the wrong thing. First, they entered the house based on wrong intelligence, e.i. violated rights of that grandmother. Second, they planted drugs on her after they realized their mistake.
She had all rights for armed resistance. She had done nothing wrong, and there were unknown armed people at her door.
They are dead wrong. Law enforcement will be there to protect you.
They are dead wrong. Law enforcement will be there to protect you.
eg Two weeks ago I was with my son going home when we were rear ended by a hit and run driver. We pulled over to the side of the road and called 911. In 5 minutes a cop arrived and the first thing he asked us "Are you alright?" He asked us to pull into a parking lot nearby, and wait for an officer who will take a report. He and other cops went after the hit and run scumbag. In another 5 minutes the second cop arrived and again made sure we were OK before proceeding with the report.
Thank You law enforcement, thank you.
They are dead wrong. Law enforcement will be there to protect you.
eg Two weeks ago I was with my son going home when we were rear ended by a hit and run driver. We pulled over to the side of the road and called 911. In 5 minutes a cop arrived and the first thing he asked us "Are you alright?" He asked us to pull into a parking lot nearby, and wait for an officer who will take a report. He and other cops went after the hit and run scumbag. In another 5 minutes the second cop arrived and again made sure we were OK before proceeding with the report.
Thank You law enforcement, thank you.
My point......resisting law enforcement with a gun will only get you shot. Use it to defend yourself against real criminals.
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