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If you are bitten by a raccoon, you can’t really decide not to get the rabies vaccine. It’s literally a life-or-death situation. But the price is incredibly high.
Insurance has created so many price dislocations in the system, it is Alice in Wonderland pricing. It seems that if you get billed, you shouldn't pay, and then go through protracted negotiations for a "realistic" billing that they will accept, usually a lot less. That way, the absurd price structure is preserved for where it can be charged.
They got a free pass when Obama deemed the ER as America's primary care.
They got a free pass when Obama deemed the ER as America's primary care. People were only going to the Hostpital when they were sick.
Obamacare demanded healthy people buy insurance. And those that need even a bandaid on their Finger must be punished in the ER.
And of course those on Obamacare must pay several doctor bills for people they never saw when they go get something as simple as blood work.
Patrick saysIf you are bitten by a raccoon, you can’t really decide not to get the rabies vaccine. It’s literally a life-or-death situation. But the price is incredibly high.
This also literally once-a-lifetime event which affects 0.000000000....0001% of the population. Meanwhile the vaccine needs to be stocked and regularly refreshed at every damn emergency room in the whole damn country. Somebody got to pay for that.
It's almost as if free market capitalism isn't working in this case. Is it possible, that there are some things, such as health care that shouldn't be left to the "market."
was told by everyone who works there that they can’t possibly tell me the price.
It's almost as if free market capitalism isn't working in this case. Is it possible, that there are some things, such as health care that shouldn't be left to the "market."
Still, shouldn't the prices be published somewhere, instead of being secret?
Fortwaynemobile sayswas told by everyone who works there that they can’t possibly tell me the price.
THat's the OPs point.
I don't think publishing prices is the solution. The solution is single payer. MAking that payer our representative. But the transition no matter what is going to be tough, because of entrenched investment interests in hospitals and health insurance companies, big pharma etc. In fact the transitions away from what we have is so difficult, that it explains the reason for the ACA.
Sadly, at the federal level our government couldn't work together, becasue that might have made Obama a hugely successful President. And we couldn't have that.!
And yes, of course lobbyists, campaign finance and corruption in general are also at the heart of the problem.
Corporations are people ! Got to love those right wing SCOTUS'.
Sadly, at the federal level our government couldn't work together, becasue that might have made Obama a hugely successful President. And we couldn't have that.!
It's almost as if free market capitalism isn't working in this case. Is it possible, that there are some things, such as health care that shouldn't be left to the "market."
You certainly can't be of the position that publishing prices would be a bad thing. It can only help.
This is why Trump wants published prices for common medical procedures.
It's almost as if free market capitalism isn't working in this case. Is it possible, that there are some things, such as health care that shouldn't be left to the "market."
The huge bills people receive really goes to pay for those who have no insurance.
Strategist saysThe huge bills people receive really goes to pay for those who have no insurance.
Well that and the overhead of being staffed to handle much more than what they are typically tasked with. Right ? Think about it. THey don't know when those busiest days or nights are going to be. But they have to be ready for them. Only part of that can be handled with the "on call" system. Also, let's not forget about coverage for malpractice suits.
Kaiser isn't much cheaper than being on a ppo plan. Kaiser is nothing more than an example of the expensive health care we already have.
It doesn't take that much thought to see that single payer can work. In spite of the fact that those enemies, those damn liberals, like it. That alone doesn't make it wrong. IT already fucking works (medicare) for all of the expensive stuff (for pretty much everyone) when old people are dying without even bringing race or work ethic in to it.
Adding on major medical for the rest of us to medicare has got to be cheaper than the current mess, even if it does deprive an entire industry of a fortume it is skimming off of the top.
Don't worry, Kaiser takes medicare.
AS with energy related issues, I really wish this weren't a democrat issue. If the solution to any problem implies that democrats win, we simply CAN NOT HAVE THAT !!!!!!!!!!!!
The solution is single payer.
You certainly can't be of the position that publishing prices would be a bad thing. It can only help.
Kaiser isn't much cheaper than being on a ppo plan..
What's your take on Laser Eye surgery? Those prices are posted regularly and the cost has gone down. Not sure if it's still the case but for a good 10 years, insurance didn't cover it either
What's your take on Laser Eye surgery? Those prices are posted regularly and the cost has gone down. Not sure if it's still the case but for a good 10 years, insurance didn't cover it either.
The other big problem is the daily masturbation to racial issues by the lefties who run the media. They are just going to keep stroking themselves because they love the discord it causes. They absolutely do not want national unity.
Yet illegals can visit ER with impunity.
What's your take on Laser Eye surgery? Those prices are posted regularly and the cost has gone down. Not sure if it's still the case but for a good 10 years, insurance didn't cover it either.
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This is pure corruption, the exploitation of sick people, even with insurance, exactly because they are trapped and don't have time to shop. There is no free market here, only blood-sucking leeches supported by "our" Congressmen who need need their next hit of campaign donation cash, like, really bad, man, and will suck Satan's cock to get it.