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Decentralizing Facebook and Google


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2012 Jan 2, 9:48am   18,730 views  70 comments

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Both Facebook and Google have way too much power. They know who we know and can censor what we see.

Are there any viable decentralized ways to accomplish the same functionality as Facebook and Google?

Bittorrent is a good model, I think. Just keeps popping up and they can't squash it yet, though SOPA is definitely intended to.

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20   TPB   2012 Jan 8, 11:14pm  

Marcus if you don't know what I mean, then just say so.
Perhaps you never really used Google, you just took the first link in the list for granted all of these years.

21   marcus   2012 Jan 9, 9:22am  

I partly understand what you mean. But regarding your statement about research, I was just pointing out that there is the "scholar option" for people doing serious research using google.

I think searching could possibly be more effective, but a lot has to do with the people who make webpages. Isn't it their responsibility to put the keyowrd tags on the page and to do whatever they can to optimize their search ranking. I guess getting it linked from other places helps, and that there are other things people do to optimize the search rank. MAybe it's the commercialization of that process that bothers you.

MEanwhile, I know that google has their own algorithms for identifying articles and so on, given topics or search terms.

Here let's try, I'll do a google search on "housing, shadow inventory." A lot of articles came up. Not too bad.

I know that in the technical world newsgroups are going to be FAR better for discussing cutting edge technologies and so on, but those are user groups (discussion oriented). For what it's supposed to be, I am not that down on google .

What is your preferred method to find articles from periodicals on a given topic. Library search engines ?

22   marcus   2012 Jan 11, 11:05pm  

marcus says

What is your preferred method to find articles from periodicals on a given topic. Library search engines ?

I guess knowledge is power, and GOP doesn't want to share his methods, lest he lose his big edge.

23   Fabio Neves de Brito   2012 Jan 18, 12:30am  

Hi liv4ever

I am representing Gefuso here. Thank you to write one of our blog link!

In the beginning of this post, Patrick has mentioned the SOPA. So, I have another good link explaining what we think about it http://www.gefuso.com/annoucements/we-say-no-to-sopa/

We are fighting for the Internet Freedom and specially today our team is trying to write we can to bring more people into this fight! against SOPA.

Help the Internet and say no to SOPA!

Regards

Fabio de Brito

24   TPB   2012 Jan 19, 7:10am  

Shares of the search giant tanked 10% Thursday in after-hours trading, after Google reported quarterly profit and sales that rose from year-ago results but badly missed Wall Street's forecasts.

And...

THAT was THAT!

25   Patrick   2012 Jan 19, 7:51am  

Perhaps they've hit their ceiling.

I get the feeling Facebook is getting there too.

26   TPB   2012 Jan 19, 10:35am  

marcus says

marcus says

What is your preferred method to find articles from periodicals on a given topic. Library search engines ?

I guess knowledge is power, and GOP doesn't want to share his methods, lest he lose his big edge.

Ah crap I'm sorry Marcus, I didn't see your reply.

I type shit in the text bar and hit enter.
I'm not looking for insight from academia in the searches I'm speaking of. But more from user groups, and vanity pages where someone posts a wealth of knowledge about a topic they are passionate about.

It could very well be, that with Social Networks being the flavor of the month. Those style of page I was speaking about, don't exist anymore. People are do busy hooking a piezo magnetic pick up to their sphincter to send out Tweets every time they fart. Perhaps the coolness of just being able to do that in first place, trumps any desire to actually write a blog on how they actually managed to create their homemade rig.

Then perhaps, 15 years later, those folks early on, that found the internet an invaluable place to forever archive their knowledge for prosperity, have died knowing they left their legacy. Then Irony kicked, and nobody was left to pay the hosting bill, and their directory was whipped clean, and Ratemypoo.com was placed their instead.

Perhaps we've finally figured out to use the internet.
Welcome to Network Television 2.0.

27   Patrick   2018 Sep 27, 8:12am  

https://gizmodo.com/facebook-is-giving-advertisers-access-to-your-shadow-co-1828476051

Facebook is not content to use the contact information you willingly put into your Facebook profile for advertising. It is also using contact information you handed over for security purposes and contact information you didn’t hand over at all, but that was collected from other people’s contact books, a hidden layer of details Facebook has about you that I’ve come to call “shadow contact information.” I managed to place an ad in front of Alan Mislove by targeting his shadow profile. This means that the junk email address that you hand over for discounts or for shady online shopping is likely associated with your account and being used to target you with ads.
28   HeadSet   2018 Sep 27, 9:48am  

AOL had more than 80% of the online access share from 95-2000,

That did not have anything to do with "computer smarts", it had to do with what was available at the time. During that era, if a household wanted on-line access it had to be through a dial-up telephone modem. And that modem had to connect to a bank, hence the need for AOL. Once home high speed internet became available through DSL and Cable, AOL was no longer required and lost popularity.
29   Patrick   2018 Oct 3, 10:02pm  

A couple of weeks ago, I noticed something strange was happening to my Google Chrome web browser. Where Chrome had always allowed me to browse the internet as an anonymous user, suddenly my browser had signed itself into my Google account. A bit of investigation (and a visit to a nerd forum) pointed me to the cause: Chrome had logged itself in after I visited my Gmail account.

The change in Chrome’s behavior, it turns out, was not a bug. It’s part of a new technical “feature” in the browser called “identity consistency between browser and cookie jar.” Despite the gritty technical name of the feature, it represents a truly fundamental change in the way Chrome works. For the first 10 years of Chrome’s existence, Chrome was simply a typical web browser. You had the option to sign the browser into Google—and thus take advantage of Google’s many data-sharing and cloud-synchronization options—but you never had to. In the stroke of an update, the sign-in became mandatory: If you happened to visit a Google property, the browser would attach itself to your Google account.


https://slate.com/technology/2018/10/google-is-losing-users-trust.html
31   Patrick   2018 Oct 13, 5:19pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
America needs SKULLFUCKBOOK!, an app that works 24/7 to enroll synthetic personalities and pump them full of plausible, persona-specific transactions and searches at a rate of 100,000 new personalities per minute, until Facebook and Google ads are statistically worthless.


Hmmm, I like this idea. Would not be all that hard, and could be done to Google to, to devalue their ads.

There is already something a bit like it:

https://adnauseam.io/
34   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2018 Oct 31, 3:49pm  

There is definitely a monopoly there, completely unregulated markets tend to lead to that, because you can just win by buying up competition and undercutting them to kill the rest off.
35   Tenpoundbass   2018 Oct 31, 3:58pm  

TPB says
Perhaps we've finally figured out to use the internet.

Welcome to Network Television 2.0.
36   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 31, 4:17pm  

Laura Loomer suspended until after the election.

Got up in Gillum's face too much. Asked him about DreamDefenders, a radical left wing student group he mentored and awarded as some Prog Youth Director a few years ago.
37   MisdemeanorRebel   2018 Oct 31, 4:17pm  

All Proud Boys suspended from Facebook. Gavin was suspended back in August.
38   Booger   2018 Dec 23, 7:07pm  

Youtube is now removing dislikes from socialist candidates.
39   HeadSet   2018 Dec 24, 7:44am  

When I piss it takes both their hands to assist me. ;-)

That difficult to find it?
41   Patrick   2018 Dec 29, 3:58pm  

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Pat, tell me now. Are you ready to face down Larry and Serge and Zuckfuck in your drive way with M134?


Larry was actually a classmate at U. Michigan. He's OK, just too self-righteous and in denial about the evil his company is doing, like all the management at Google and Facebook are.

Spying on people for profit is inherently and unavoidably evil. Suppressing free speech and manipulating our elections is even more evil. Sharing all that collected data with the NSA and government of China is super-evil.
42   Booger   2019 Jan 18, 3:22pm  

Facebook employees were caught writing 5-star Amazon reviews for its Portal device, and now they must take them down.

https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-employees-caught-leaving-5-star-amazon-reviews-for-portal-2019-1
43   Booger   2019 Jan 24, 3:17pm  

Facebook fudges numbers - 50% of users are fake.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-24/facebook-slides-after-report-claims-50-its-users-are-fake

In a report published Thursday by PlainSite, an independent research shop led by Aaron Greenspan, analysts calculated that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been regularly lying to investors and the public about the company's user metrics, and that the company could be overestimating the number of users by as much as 50%.

The team detailed their findings in a 70-page report published on their website.

https://www.plainsite.org/realitycheck/facebook.html
44   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jan 24, 5:00pm  

The first few suggestions when I registered for a new Twitter Account selecting only "Politics" coming in from a VPN in Miami.

The top three: Maddow, Nate Silver, Krugman. NO Conservatives, Not even Fox News or Limbaugh. Only Liberals. Even Obama but not the current POTUS.



45   Patrick   2019 Jan 24, 8:30pm  

TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce says
The first few suggestions when I registered for a new Twitter Account selecting only "Politics" coming in from a VPN in Miami.

The top three: Maddow, Nate Silver, Krugman. NO Conservatives, Not even Fox News or Limbaugh. Only Liberals. Even Obama but not the current POTUS.


Thanks @TwoScoopsOfSpaceForce

I appreciate the independent research you did. More of us should do that to expose media hypocrisy.
51   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Mar 4, 4:33pm  

Executive Order: Any companies with a contract to hold US Government material on any server can only censor criminal behavior of US citizen users.
53   Patrick   2019 May 7, 5:36pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
Executive Order: Any companies with a contract to hold US Government material on any server can only censor criminal behavior of US citizen users.


Got a link?

Sounds like another big win for Trump and free speech.
54   zzyzzx   2019 May 8, 12:53pm  

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-08/facebook-now-demands-you-hate-targeted-people-or-you-will-be-banned-too

Facebook Now Demands That You Hate Targeted People Or You Will Be Banned, Too!
58   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 May 10, 10:09am  

Only way to do it is to create a good enough competitor that people will use. Free market solves this.

I was on facebook, 3 groups I was in simply disappeared because they were infowars related. Just people talking among themselves. But some leftists didn't like us talking, so they removed the groups simply.
59   cmdrda2leak   2019 May 17, 7:49am  

Related topic: Apple and Google arguably have more severe antitrust violations than Facebook...

www.youtube.com/embed/SoepHkgLDAQ

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